UTAH in process of Making a deal that will Change College Athletics

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I had heard that the Big 10 was doing the same. It appears UTAH is taking the lead. I wonder who will be Tennessee sponsor. Utah is getting 500 million. Read below. Private entity Otro Capital. Big 10 is seeking 2.4 billon for conference.


BIG 10 and Utah set up differently. Control and distribution of assets are different in each case so I understand.

Interesting. Wild Wild West.
 
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I usually consider “this will kill college football” to be a hyperbole, but delving into the tendrils of private equity will almost certainly kill the sport in the long term.

It’s like inviting Count Dracula into your home and wondering why he’s sucking your wife’s blood at the dinner table. These teams and conferences are setting themselves up for disaster.
 
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I usually consider “this will kill college football” to be a hyperbole, but delving into the tendrils of private equity will almost certainly kill the sport in the long term.

It’s like inviting Count Dracula into your home and wondering why he’s sucking your wife’s blood at the dinner table. These teams and conferences are setting themselves up for disaster.
Don't you think the SEC will follow suit? This event will be about control. AD Decisions, coaching hires and other points of interest. As stated to me a board will be formed and people can invest into it as well. I would think it may be challenged in a lawsuit of some nature. Not sure, but would you pursue and Anti-Trust law.

May thought would be that I will not buy anything that is either not SEC or Team related. Second, does this time of situation as an example bestow some control to an entity like Pilot if they buy into it. What a mess.

College Athletics killer as we know it.
 
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These investors will be looking for a return on investment. So lets see, where does that revenue come from to earn that return?
1) ticket sales (prices will go up)
2) merch sales (prices will go up)
3) TV revenue (cable / streaming prices will go up)
4) More click bait on targeted websites/searches
5) Team internet sites (subscription fees will go up)

Who pays the piper? Mostly the fans......until the powers that be squeeze the goose too hard and it stops laying golden eggs.
 
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I sincerely hope that our beloved U of T and the SEC as a whole do not go down this path. I would suspect that at that point, I would most likely become a devoted football fan of the local D3 school or whatever it's called these day

I have come to believe that something of this nature is inevitable though. I just don't get it. Every time something like this comes up, the reasoning is always "the rising cost of college athletics"

Great, you get a one time shot in the arm but last time I checked-as a general rule NOTHiNG gets cheaper. Ever (some minor exceptions where technology changes/improves-data storage, etc)

What's gonna happen in 2035 when the schools are broke, behind in the athletics arms race again, and no longer have a piggy bank to raid?

This coming from Utah is also a head scratcher. They have yet to really prove that their program can be successful without Kyle Whittingham.

Could very well become the sports first bankruptcy-if Colorado doesn't.beat them to the punch
 
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The pro leagues limit private equity to minority ownership of any team to avoid attempts to "cash cow" a team for ROI purposes only. They can invest but they can't really control the team.

These private equity firms going after colleges now may be trying to get in on the "ground floor" before college ball inevitably becomes pro ball (when players are declared employee athletes, not student athletes.)

They may make their case legally when a pro league forms that they have been the primary source of capital and deserve controlling ownership in the team, perhaps even taking to school to court to take control of "the sports brand" because they've been supporting it financially. A "hostile takeover" by investors situation might be possible.

I expect this to get messy when the NCAA fully collapses. That's when these vulture capital investors will pounce.
 
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Basically, this showcases the fact that many schools can't afford what is happening and maintain the current level of sports within their athletic departments. They don't generate enough capital to pay the coaches and provide the NIL to compete.

Ultimately, they need to squeeze every last penny they can from the fans and that is what this will attempt to do. That is the only way to raise more money - increased prices for everything. They don't need a private company to do that - other than the fact that they can then defer blame away from the school when folks complain about the prices - the "it's not me, I'm not the one controlling the prices".

Sad really
 
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These investors will be looking for a return on investment. So lets see, where does that revenue come from to earn that return?
1) ticket sales (prices will go up)
2) merch sales (prices will go up)
3) TV revenue (cable / streaming prices will go up)
4) More click bait on targeted websites/searches
5) Team internet sites (subscription fees will go up)

Who pays the piper? Mostly the fans......until the powers that be squeeze the goose too hard and it stops laying golden eggs.

The article says "not for profit" which implies a break-even model.

Never mind I read it wrong - it does say for profit.
 
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With regard to the Utes-

How will this work?​

The school started a new company called Utah Brands & Entertainment. The Utes will own most of this company, but Otro Capital will also own part of it. The new company will handle some things most athletic departments do (like ticketing, events, sponsorships and NIL) but try to do them even better to make more money for the school and the investment firm.

The Utes would remain in control of big decisions like hiring/firing coaches and scheduling. Although the company will distribute NIL payments to players, the Utes would still control who gets how much.

The company will be under the university’s foundation and chaired by the Utes’ athletic director. On a potential seven-person board, the athletic director and three other Utah foundation members would be joined by two members from Otro Capital and another university supporter/investor.

The company would submit audits to Utah’s trustees, and the university would have the ability to buy back its share of the company from Otro Capital.

During a panel discussion at the SBJ Intercollegiate Athletics Forum on Tuesday, NCAA president Charlie Baker called the deal “really well thought out and really well designed” because the school still controls athletics’ decision-making process. Yahoo! Sports reported Tuesday that the Utes cleared the proposal with the NCAA.

“This is not a one-time transaction,” Randall said.

That said, the partnership is expected to include a significant initial transaction. Athletic director Mark Harlan called a “short-term solution” of capital something “that’s very important” for the program. Trustees discussed the possibility of a seven-year term to the partnership.

What are the risks?​

Because financial details are either not yet finalized or not public, we can’t fully assess them. But generally, private equity groups don’t get into partnerships to lose money. What happens if this venture doesn’t make as much as both sides expect?

Foundation CEO David Anderson acknowledged a “tension” between commercial success and the university’s mission. Utah administrators said in the presentation that the school would be able to veto a sponsorship opportunity that doesn’t align with its values, but how might that work in practice?

A rosier risk is that Utah undervalued itself because it’s the first program to make a deal like this. Anderson told the board that if the deal becomes below market value, Otro Capital will effectively have to match the new numbers.

Is this the start of a trend?​

Probably.

A few schools (like Kentucky and Clemson) have already formed companies to handle some of the business of college athletics. Utah simply took that idea a step further by adding an outside investor to the mix. The Utes aren’t the only program in these financial straits, so don’t be surprised if others follow to the same proposed solution.

The Athletic
 
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I had heard that the Big 10 was doing the same. It appears UTAH is taking the lead. I wonder who will be Tennessee sponsor. Utah is getting 500 million. Read below. Private entity Otro Capital. Big 10 is seeking 2.4 billon for conference.


BIG 10 and Utah set up differently. Control and distribution of assets are different in each case so I understand.

Interesting. Wild Wild West.
They are inviting the same Wall St accountants in to do the same thing to college football they did to Vegas. Every aspect of the game becomes a revenue center and the AD's power to make decisions will be greatly diminished. They firms will be de facto team owners with the ultimate veto power. Profit drives every decision
 
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With regard to the Utes-

How will this work?​

The school started a new company called Utah Brands & Entertainment. The Utes will own most of this company, but Otro Capital will also own part of it. The new company will handle some things most athletic departments do (like ticketing, events, sponsorships and NIL) but try to do them even better to make more money for the school and the investment firm.

The Utes would remain in control of big decisions like hiring/firing coaches and scheduling. Although the company will distribute NIL payments to players, the Utes would still control who gets how much.

The company will be under the university’s foundation and chaired by the Utes’ athletic director. On a potential seven-person board, the athletic director and three other Utah foundation members would be joined by two members from Otro Capital and another university supporter/investor.

The company would submit audits to Utah’s trustees, and the university would have the ability to buy back its share of the company from Otro Capital.

During a panel discussion at the SBJ Intercollegiate Athletics Forum on Tuesday, NCAA president Charlie Baker called the deal “really well thought out and really well designed” because the school still controls athletics’ decision-making process. Yahoo! Sports reported Tuesday that the Utes cleared the proposal with the NCAA.

“This is not a one-time transaction,” Randall said.

That said, the partnership is expected to include a significant initial transaction. Athletic director Mark Harlan called a “short-term solution” of capital something “that’s very important” for the program. Trustees discussed the possibility of a seven-year term to the partnership.

What are the risks?​

Because financial details are either not yet finalized or not public, we can’t fully assess them. But generally, private equity groups don’t get into partnerships to lose money. What happens if this venture doesn’t make as much as both sides expect?

Foundation CEO David Anderson acknowledged a “tension” between commercial success and the university’s mission. Utah administrators said in the presentation that the school would be able to veto a sponsorship opportunity that doesn’t align with its values, but how might that work in practice?

A rosier risk is that Utah undervalued itself because it’s the first program to make a deal like this. Anderson told the board that if the deal becomes below market value, Otro Capital will effectively have to match the new numbers.

Is this the start of a trend?​

Probably.

A few schools (like Kentucky and Clemson) have already formed companies to handle some of the business of college athletics. Utah simply took that idea a step further by adding an outside investor to the mix. The Utes aren’t the only program in these financial straits, so don’t be surprised if others follow to the same proposed solution.

The Athletic
Vols operate in the green and even give back money to the athletics dept. We don't need the outside money and the dependence it will create
 
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These investors will be looking for a return on investment. So lets see, where does that revenue come from to earn that return?
1) ticket sales (prices will go up)
2) merch sales (prices will go up)
3) TV revenue (cable / streaming prices will go up)
4) More click bait on targeted websites/searches
5) Team internet sites (subscription fees will go up)

Who pays the piper? Mostly the fans......until the powers that be squeeze the goose too hard and it stops laying golden eggs.
All with inadequate investment in facilities and stadiums to increase ROI short term.
 
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These investors will be looking for a return on investment. So lets see, where does that revenue come from to earn that return?
1) ticket sales (prices will go up)
2) merch sales (prices will go up)
3) TV revenue (cable / streaming prices will go up)
4) More click bait on targeted websites/searches
5) Team internet sites (subscription fees will go up)

Who pays the piper? Mostly the fans......until the powers that be squeeze the goose too hard and it stops laying golden eggs.
the other angle that is going to be pursued is them pressuring conferences to cut bottom feeders. if they aren't getting a good ROI from a team they will pull their support.

they will undoubtedly have say in how things are distributed, and will put pressure on everyone involved. I think with a conference there may be enough inertia to slow it down, but on an individual school level we could see changes quickly.
 
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I had heard that the Big 10 was doing the same. It appears UTAH is taking the lead. I wonder who will be Tennessee sponsor. Utah is getting 500 million. Read below. Private entity Otro Capital. Big 10 is seeking 2.4 billon for conference.


BIG 10 and Utah set up differently. Control and distribution of assets are different in each case so I understand.

Interesting. Wild Wild West.
I spoke about this well before NIlL ever happened, but unfortunately not all of my ideas are heard or adopted LOL This is a way to get financial interest from people who otherwise have little interest in the sport.
 
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the other angle that is going to be pursued is them pressuring conferences to cut bottom feeders. if they aren't getting a good ROI from a team they will pull their support.

they will undoubtedly have say in how things are distributed, and will put pressure on everyone involved. I think with a conference there may be enough inertia to slow it down, but on an individual school level we could see changes quickly.
This is where private equity and ESPN join up.

There's a reason why Sewanee left the SEC. Fundamentally, they chose academics and they weren't going to let athletics "wag the dog" as much as the SEC wanted.

Eventually, for the sake of the money and this IS entertainment after all, shows/teams get cancelled. It's what the entertainment industry does. If your record or show doesn't sell eyeballs, you lose your contract.

ESPN prefers that and private equity prefers that. Fans are outvoted.
 
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