NIL is part of our issue.

[VolTom1]

The big 10 has been kicking our @ss these past few years. I think SEC players are getting soft, we are paying them too much so the don't try as hard becasue they can make forever money with average performance. That being said if you don't pay them they leave, then you're really screwed lacking depth.

 

[Mississippi Vols]

Until you have performance contracts nothing will change. The players have the total upper hand. They are getting paid regardless of performance or effort.

 

[Rocky Top T]

Not having Hard coaching is the issue. They pamper the players!!!

 

[RiverVol]

The NIL is everyone's problem. I don't want to see a QB's career highlights in a bowl game that covers THREE different college football careers. Get that crap outta here. hahaha...

If we keep NIL, which we will.

1) 4 year contracts for everyone.
2) If you make an average of >$500k a year from NIL, no transfers. ever. You sign a contract, you fulfill that contract. 1 contract. 4 years. no redhsirt, no leaving early
3) If you make >$500k/year NIL, no sitting out any game unless medically necessary (team doc + 3rd party must concur)
4) If you make an average $0 NIL - $499k a year = 1 transfer portal during 4 years

No redhsirt for any paid player. None. Choose where you want to be and go play. If you are making career money, honor the contract.

Make good decisions. Understand consequences for those decisions.

Go ahead and do the inevitable: College Players' Union - set up to protect players from abusive coaches and/or communities. Union Rights/Reach limited to player protection. (I know, I know... hahaha)

I'm also ok with shutting it all down. At this point, who knows what is real and what is VegasBall.

 

[Volnuck]

The big 10 has been kicking our @ss these past few years. I think SEC players are getting soft, we are paying them too much so the don't try as hard becasue they can make forever money with average performance. That being said if you don't pay them they leave, then you're really screwed lacking depth.

NIL and profit sharing has ruined the game we all have loved. Welcome to 2025 college football.

 

[Bud_Fox]

We have to fully commit to football financially. Being an everything school is cool until you can’t win football games.

 

[OrangeBeachVol]

The NIL is everyone's problem. I don't want to see a QB's career highlights in a bowl game that covers THREE different college football careers. Get that crap outta here. hahaha...

If we keep NIL, which we will.

1) If you make an average of >$500k a year from NIL, no transfers. ever. You sign a contract, you fulfill that contract. 1 contract. 4 years. no redhsirt, no leaving early
2) If you make >$500k/year NIL, no sitting out any game unless medically necessary (team doc + 3rd party must concur)
3) If you make $0 NIL - $499k a year = 1 transfer portal during 4 years

No redhsirt for any paid player. None. Choose where you want to be and go play. If you are making career money, honor the contract.

Make good decisions. Understand consequences for those decisions.

Go ahead and do the inevitable: College Players' Union - set up to protect players from abusive coaches and/or communities. Union Rights/Reach limited to player protection. (I know, I know... hahaha)

Right now the NIL is not a pay for play contract but is paid by a collective, not the university, for basically marketing of a product, appearances etc. Your suggestion is to set it up like the NFL, basically players are unionized employees which brings in more issues. Not saying things won't go there but there would basically not be CFB even as we know it now anymore. Not sure I would like to see that.

 

[Illinoisvolfan2]

I absolutely agree that there needs to be contracts. I was actually shocked to find out a while back that the players don’t have one. Your other ideas are good too.

 

[RiverVol]

Right now the NIL is not a pay for play contract but is paid by a collective, not the university, for basically marketing of a product, appearances etc. Your suggestion is to set it up like the NFL, basically players are unionized employees which brings in more issues. Not saying things won't go there but there would basically not be CFB even as we know it now anymore. Not sure I would like to see that.

It's not "uncomplicated" at present, just under-regulated - with low intentionality evident in the regulation that does exist.

College Sportsball (as we grew up with) is gone. Between NIL and Sports Betting, it is absolutely a shadow sport. Each game is a competition being played by the teams, the players, and unseen parties all across the globe. All parties involved in "the game" have some level of influence in the outcome of the actual football game - virtually impossible to know how much at any given moment in any given game.

For my "solution" - Yes - keep NIL purely NIL - where the payment for players still comes from 3rd party for "Name Image Likeness", but... the NIL contract is tied to the player participating as a team-member at a specific university. Both the 3rd party payee and the player are contracted for the duration of 4 years. The Universities can do scholarships as they have. A true scholarship and/or the actual cost of education for a player would not count against the "professional" tag that goes with >$500k/year average income.

hahaha... the absolute lack of effort in wrangling this snake is evident when a random, lackluster fan can come up with a better scenario in 5 minutes of "typing out loud".

The sport needs help for sure.

 

[a vol n tears]

I absolutely agree that there needs to be contracts. I was actually shocked to find out a while back that the players don’t have one. Your other ideas are good too.

I personally have no idea about NIL and contracts. Most I read here says no contracts.
If that is true, how did that QB committed to Fl for $Ms, sue Fl for not coming up with the money.

 

[Delmar]

The NIL is everyone's problem. I don't want to see a QB's career highlights in a bowl game that covers THREE different college football careers. Get that crap outta here. hahaha...

If we keep NIL, which we will.

1) 4 year contracts for everyone.
2) If you make an average of >$500k a year from NIL, no transfers. ever. You sign a contract, you fulfill that contract. 1 contract. 4 years. no redhsirt, no leaving early
3) If you make >$500k/year NIL, no sitting out any game unless medically necessary (team doc + 3rd party must concur)
4) If you make an average $0 NIL - $499k a year = 1 transfer portal during 4 years

No redhsirt for any paid player. None. Choose where you want to be and go play. If you are making career money, honor the contract.

Make good decisions. Understand consequences for those decisions.

Go ahead and do the inevitable: College Players' Union - set up to protect players from abusive coaches and/or communities. Union Rights/Reach limited to player protection. (I know, I know... hahaha)

I'm also ok with shutting it all down. At this point, who knows what is real and what is VegasBall.

Asked this in another thread also where you posted it. You going to give an unproven high school kid a firm 4 year contract? There is a reason why scholarships were one year renewable deals. Nobody with any sense is going to give out 4 year firm contracts. Maybe two year deals or at most a 3 year deal to a freshman that balls out but that’s it.

 

[RiverVol]

Asked this in another thread also where you posted it. You going to give an unproven high school kid a firm 4 year contract? There is a reason why scholarships were one year renewable deals. Nobody with any sense is going to give out 4 year firm contracts. Maybe two year deals or at most a 3 year deal to a freshman that balls out but that’s it.

It's a great question. I happen to think that upping the ante for commitment from both sides is beneficial for the sport and for society as a whole.

I think the "box" needs to have sides and a top again. For coaches to be able to recruit and DEVELOP,... they need to not recruit and re-recruit an entire team every year. Oddly enough, this would benefit the level of play in the NFL as well. - though I suspect there will be some reaching down and attempt to influence whatever CFB deleops into - in order to get the NFL a piece of the pie. - not what I would want, but it will be difficult to stop.

I am under no illusion that my thoughts are good ones. They are just mine.

 

[Delmar]

It's a great question. I happen to think that upping the ante for commitment from both sides is beneficial for the sport and for society as a whole.

I think the "box" needs to have sides and a top again. For coaches to be able to recruit and DEVELOP,... they need to not recruit and re-recruit an entire team every year. Oddly enough, this would benefit the level of play in the NFL as well. - though I suspect there will be some reaching down and attempt to influence whatever CFB deleops into - in order to get the NFL a piece of the pie. - not what I would want, but it will be difficult to stop.

I am under no illusion that my thoughts are good ones. They are just mine.

There certainly needs to be some controls placed on this mess. The problem is what can be done that will pass legal muster. Everything the NCAA has tried has failed miserably when they go to court. Contracts between the school and the player is an answer but it opens up all sorts of issues. There is a long way to go before that will get done. As far as NIL goes, forget it. Nothing can be done to limit that.