NIL Prediction

[99gator]

I know there is a new rule for roster expansion to go from 85-105, but I am going to make a prediction.

Given time, there will be roster contraction not expansion.

Major schools will not be in the business of roster development. That's for schools outside of the power 4 conferences.

Schools in power conferences are going to carry a roster of 70, if that. Less players will mean more money can be given to better players.

Which would you rather have? LSU's 2.5 deep in 2019 or 100 of what teams generally carry?

With few exceptions, what point is there to sign a kid out of high school? Why pay him? The exceptional freshman, yes. Other guys you don't expect to ball out until their redshirt sophomore year, why? In fact, why redshirt a guy? Ever?

Just a thought

 

[Go47]

Agree.

What’s interesting to think about is the 5 star QB phenom type player . . . And paying them big bucks to build your recruiting class. In the past, the thought has been . . . You need those guys to get the other offensive players you need to come . . .

How much longer will that approach continue?

It’s been discussed here - look at Ole Miss tearing it up with a D2 guy from Ferris State!

 

[goooooovols]

Definitely need to move to an nfl look for the roster size and salary caps. This will add more parity and build some excitement for non power schools

 

[IUGradVol]

I could see it happening that way. Might actually help smaller schools to have the extra depth.

 

[vol94fan]

I agree you should only pay freshmen who are ready to play and contribute as a freshman. Otherwise you pay them to sit the bench hoping they contribute next year, but next year they gone to Alabama for a lil more money.

 

[volfanhill]

I know there is a new rule for roster expansion to go from 85-105, but I am going to make a prediction.

Given time, there will be roster contraction not expansion.

Major schools will not be in the business of roster development. That's for schools outside of the power 4 conferences.

Schools in power conferences are going to carry a roster of 70, if that. Less players will mean more money can be given to better players.

Which would you rather have? LSU's 2.5 deep in 2019 or 100 of what teams generally carry?

With few exceptions, what point is there to sign a kid out of high school? Why pay him? The exceptional freshman, yes. Other guys you don't expect to ball out until their redshirt sophomore year, why? In fact, why redshirt a guy? Ever?

Just a thought

100% agree. Biggest reason is pay. Until this is no longer multi times per year free agency the teams won't want to have this payroll. What's the point?

 

[99gator]

Agree.

What’s interesting to think about is the 5 star QB phenom type player . . . And paying them big bucks to build your recruiting class. In the past, the thought has been . . . You need those guys to get the other offensive players you need to come . . .

How much longer will that approach continue?

It’s been discussed here - look at Ole Miss tearing it up with a D2 guy from Ferris State!

That's still happening. It's just with the transfer QB, not the high school 5*

And the schools are moving that way because there is more product certainty with the transfer QB compared to the 5* out of high school.

 

[goooooovols]

I agree you should only pay freshmen who are ready to play and contribute as a freshman. Otherwise you pay them to sit the bench hoping they contribute next year, but next year they gone to Alabama for a lil more money.

I think “rookie/nfl max contract” would make a lot of sense and then an option to stay for max reconstructed contract would be great or take less to move to another school.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I agree you should only pay freshmen who are ready to play and contribute as a freshman. Otherwise you pay them to sit the bench hoping they contribute next year, but next year they gone to Alabama for a lil more money.

Pray tell, how does one know a FR can play and contribute at the next level? We've seen busts from highly touted 5* FR. Where do you keep your crystal ball?

 

[TNVOLFN]

Great points... Not everyone will be able to drink from the same well. I anticipate a lot of booms and busts from P4 Teams with everyone siphoning the talent from the G6 teams.

Lower level teams have already changed their recruiting strategy to one that promises development, then transfer opportunities.

 

[TNVOLFN]

I think “rookie/nfl max contract” would make a lot of sense and then an option to stay for max reconstructed contract would be great or take less to move to another school.

You're talking about an organized league with Collective Bargaining. This is the Wild Wild Wild West. Every player is a free agent any time of the year, it's worse than Roulette.

 

[#1fulmerite]

Remember when CLK went to USC and they became hammered with recruiting penalties? All of the pundits stated they were such an esteemed program that it would not affect them because they could select the cream of the crop. Gator, you may be onto something. May come down to who has the largest bank roll.

 

[Heupel's Side Chick]

I would agree but I honestly don't think what's going on now will be what's going on 5 years from now. I think we're in the experimental stage of the whole players getting paid idea and the current system is just not sustainable. Players will get paid from here on out I believe, but I think it will look much different and will be more structured than this current wild wild west thing that's going on now. I think it has to and people way more important, influential and knowledgeable than me do as well.

 

[Cobb-Webb 1989]

Remember when CLK went to USC and they became hammered with recruiting penalties? All of the pundits stated they were such an esteemed program that it would not affect them because they could select the cream of the crop. Gator, you may be onto something. May come down to who has the largest bank roll.

Yep

Sure remember SMU getting nailed with the Death Penalty

 

[#1fulmerite]

Yep

Sure remember SMU getting nailed with the Death Penalty

That is my favorite 30 for 30! I was very young when they went down however, for whatever reason, I remember watching a news clip at the time stating their trouble. I was the age when kids didn’t care about the news.

 

[LittleVol]

I know there is a new rule for roster expansion to go from 85-105, but I am going to make a prediction.

Given time, there will be roster contraction not expansion.

Major schools will not be in the business of roster development. That's for schools outside of the power 4 conferences.

Schools in power conferences are going to carry a roster of 70, if that. Less players will mean more money can be given to better players.

Which would you rather have? LSU's 2.5 deep in 2019 or 100 of what teams generally carry?

With few exceptions, what point is there to sign a kid out of high school? Why pay him? The exceptional freshman, yes. Other guys you don't expect to ball out until their redshirt sophomore year, why? In fact, why redshirt a guy? Ever?

Just a thought

1) so HS will still exist.
2) Where will they play IF not college?

There's 4,000 kids in the transfer portal. Surely that's enough for Florida and Tennessee to syphon from..

But what about the entire Big 10?
SEC?
ACC
BIG 12?
There's 1,000,000 kids playing HS football.
1,000,000 vs 4,000 geez I wonder which talent pool is more reliable???


Tennessee had 5 FRESHMAN ALL-AMERICAN this season. That had nothing to do with the transfer portal.

 

[newyorkvol]

I also wonder what happens when the money starts to diminish. The people funding NIL don’t really see any monetary return. There are some extra perks, but the funding is for program success. What happens when people stop donating to an unsuccessful product?

 

[99gator]

1) so HS will still exist.
2) Where will they play IF not college?

There's 4,000 kids in the transfer portal. Surely that's enough for Florida and Tennessee to syphon from..

But what about the entire Big 10?
SEC?
ACC
BIG 12?
There's 1,000,000 kids playing HS football.
1,000,000 vs 4,000 geez I wonder which talent pool is more reliable???


Tennessee had 5 FRESHMAN ALL-AMERICAN this season. That had nothing to do with the transfer portal.

The Portal Effect: Inside the Slow Demise of High School Recruiting

Most stories you hear about the transfer portal focus on who’s going where — which quarterback flipped to a rival school, which cornerback found a better offer,

www.si.com

 

[RockyTopWorld]

I know there is a new rule for roster expansion to go from 85-105, but I am going to make a prediction.

Given time, there will be roster contraction not expansion.

Major schools will not be in the business of roster development. That's for schools outside of the power 4 conferences.

Schools in power conferences are going to carry a roster of 70, if that. Less players will mean more money can be given to better players.

Which would you rather have? LSU's 2.5 deep in 2019 or 100 of what teams generally carry?

With few exceptions, what point is there to sign a kid out of high school? Why pay him? The exceptional freshman, yes. Other guys you don't expect to ball out until their redshirt sophomore year, why? In fact, why redshirt a guy? Ever?

Just a thought

You keep adding those kids who my not contribute until their sophomore season became they're the guys who will build your culture. Culture matters on championship teams. But I see your point.

 

[hound dog hillbil]

Get those players like D. Bishop,walk on and play their hearts out for Tennessee. They your vfl players.

 

[goooooovols]

You're talking about an organized league with Collective Bargaining. This is the Wild Wild Wild West. Every player is a free agent any time of the year, it's worse than Roulette.

Oh I know! At some point it’ll have to end with a collective bargaining agreement. The calendar is already being rewritten, we won’t have spring games as we’ve known them.

 

[EZE]

They are turning college football into a pure professional league. Given that it will be the second-tier professional football league, how can it continue to thrive?

Minor League baseball is what it is fast becoming.

 

[UTFranklinVol]

I've said it 100 times over. why pay a kid out of high school all that money based purely on "hype" when you can pay a guy in the portal who is a proven known quantity AND someone else has put in all the time and effort to develop their strength and physical attributes to the highest potential.

the portal is a no brainer to focus all your dollars on.


it may sound rediculous to make this example but it illustrates the point: if you're an NFL team would you rather draft the #1 QB or would you rather pay to get Patrick Mahomes if he was a free agent?

I hope that question is easy for you to answer because the right answer is obvious.

 

[Vol8188]

I know there is a new rule for roster expansion to go from 85-105, but I am going to make a prediction.

Given time, there will be roster contraction not expansion.

Major schools will not be in the business of roster development. That's for schools outside of the power 4 conferences.

Schools in power conferences are going to carry a roster of 70, if that. Less players will mean more money can be given to better players.

Which would you rather have? LSU's 2.5 deep in 2019 or 100 of what teams generally carry?

With few exceptions, what point is there to sign a kid out of high school? Why pay him? The exceptional freshman, yes. Other guys you don't expect to ball out until their redshirt sophomore year, why? In fact, why redshirt a guy? Ever?

Just a thought

You still bring in 105, you just don’t pay all 105. Give a guy like William Wright a scholarship, but 0 NIL to come here

 

[Mid Tenn Vol]

Yes I think you’re right. Have the 2 deep stacked with 4 + stars. Team that spends the most is gonna be the front runner. From here forward it’s all about money. Player development and committing to a school for 4 years is dead. It’s gonna be a lot of players switching teams every year unless congress or ncaa intervene and make some changes. It’s sad and I hate what college football has become in just a couple of years but this is where we’re at.