“Vol For Life” - DEFINED!

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If I was an agent I would be advising my player to hit the portal at every opportunity to ascertain full value, you can always come back to the current team. Play hard enough to keep your starting job but don't do any Kamikaze stuff that can get you hurt. Staying healthy and earning is first priority. This is just good business practice and the sport is now a business. You can leave that rah rah rah stuff at the door, we are talking life altering money.
 
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VOLtaism said:
If I was an agent I would be advising my player to hit the portal at every opportunity to ascertain full value, you can always come back to the current team. Play hard enough to keep your starting job but don't do any Kamikaze stuff that can get you hurt. Staying healthy and earning is first priority. This is just good business practice and the sport is now a business. You can leave that rah rah rah stuff at the door, we are talking life altering money.
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Those last 6 words are the problem
 
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What exactly is “life altering money?” Most of these players are not going to make a million dollars in NIL money. And a million is not that much these days. (I remember thinking a million dollars would set me up for life back when I was in college in 1982. I’m not sure that would have been true even then)

How long will a million dollars last you if you’re 22 years old? They have to pay an agent. They have to pay taxes. They are buying cars and paying for things now that most people have to wait for. (Clay Travis talked about this just a week or two ago.) They are not building ties with a school and its Alumni base that will help them get good jobs in the future.

It’s not hard to imagine where someone who earns much more than that, maybe his name rhymes with I-am- a-llama, could crash and burn and be bankrupt within 10 years.

If they could put all of their NIL money in investments, not touch it now, they would have a nice sum when they are ready to retire from even a relatively low wage job. But I don’t know if that’s happening. Oh, it’s life altering, but for most it won’t last. We’ll see in about 10-15 years.
 
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VOLtaism said:
If I was an agent I would be advising my player to hit the portal at every opportunity to ascertain full value, you can always come back to the current team. Play hard enough to keep your starting job but don't do any Kamikaze stuff that can get you hurt. Staying healthy and earning is first priority. This is just good business practice and the sport is now a business. You can leave that rah rah rah stuff at the door, we are talking life altering money.
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Tell us you’ve never competed without telling us you’ve never competed. Such an ignorant post. First, baseball players aren’t making life changing money. Second, some teams are not allowing players to return. 🙄
 
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When Derek Dooley started the VFL football was different. I wish they'd still do the VFL but put a star on it to differentiate players loyalty.
1 year player VFL* or VFL1 star
2 year player VFL** or VFL2 star
3 year player VFL*** or VFL3 star
4 year player VFL**** or VFL 4 star
3 or 4 year VFL that makes all SEC VFL***** or VFL5 star
maybe some money incentive as you move up *s to make the symbol more iconic and have an immediate meaning for those loyal to UT VOLS.
 
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VOLtaism said:
If I was an agent I would be advising my player to hit the portal at every opportunity to ascertain full value, you can always come back to the current team. Play hard enough to keep your starting job but don't do any Kamikaze stuff that can get you hurt. Staying healthy and earning is first priority. This is just good business practice and the sport is now a business. You can leave that rah rah rah stuff at the door, we are talking life altering money.
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Except you can’t always come back. A lot of these guys aren’t worth what their agents and advisors are telling them they are. They are entering the portal only to find no one else thinks they are worth what they’ve been told and then their original team is saying “nah, we’re fine without you.”
 
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KTrain said:
When Derek Dooley started the VFL football was different. I wish they'd still do the VFL but put a star on it to differentiate players loyalty.
1 year player VFL* or VFL1 star
2 year player VFL** or VFL2 star
3 year player VFL*** or VFL3 star
4 year player VFL**** or VFL 4 star
3 or 4 year VFL that makes all SEC VFL***** or VFL5 star
maybe some money incentive as you move up *s to make the symbol more iconic and have an immediate meaning for those loyal to UT VOLS.
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This could possibly work. You get your base year one, each year you stay that pay gets bumped up. Team wins the SEC...bump. Win the NC....bump. Win all SEC team...bump. All American....bump. Heisman...bump. Have performance based contracts drawn up. Having iron clad contracts that say you will be penalized for leaving is the only way to keep mass migrations from happening. I hate to say it, but its the world we live in now. In this day and age of college football, you either accept it, or continue with sub par seasons. You will always have your diamond in the roughs. I personally consider Joey A a VFL because of the way he handled himself on and off the field.
 
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Exiled said:
Except you can’t always come back. A lot of these guys aren’t worth what their agents and advisors are telling them they are. They are entering the portal only to find no one else thinks they are worth what they’ve been told and then their original team is saying “nah, we’re fine without you.”
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Of course, but the agents don't really care. They are more willing to gamble with their clients welfare to get the maximum. It's the way they make their living.
 
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BigBadVol said:
Tell us you’ve never competed without telling us you’ve never competed. Such an ignorant post. First, baseball players aren’t making life changing money. Second, some teams are not allowing players to return. 🙄
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You are obviously know nothing about how agents make their living. Also, players not making life changing money don't need agents and visa versa. Has nothing to do with competing, with agents its pure dollars and cents.
 
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VOLdo Raine said:
What exactly is “life altering money?” Most of these players are not going to make a million dollars in NIL money. And a million is not that much these days. (I remember thinking a million dollars would set me up for life back when I was in college in 1982. I’m not sure that would have been true even then)

How long will a million dollars last you if you’re 22 years old? They have to pay an agent. They have to pay taxes. They are buying cars and paying for things now that most people have to wait for. (Clay Travis talked about this just a week or two ago.) They are not building ties with a school and its Alumni base that will help them get good jobs in the future.

It’s not hard to imagine where someone who earns much more than that, maybe his name rhymes with I-am- a-llama, could crash and burn and be bankrupt within 10 years.

If they could put all of their NIL money in investments, not touch it now, they would have a nice sum when they are ready to retire from even a relatively low wage job. But I don’t know if that’s happening. Oh, it’s life altering, but for most it won’t last. We’ll see in about 10-15 years.
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So a kid who is making nothing suddenly gets a $300K payday, and per the agent, is looking at a future NFL contact in the millions, his life is not altered? If you are working as an agent it's your job to advise on income potential, otherwise you are not needed. Agents will destroy the sport.
 
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Getting big money and being a VFL are not always mutually exclusive. There will still be a few that make the bucks and still bleed orange. Unfortunately, it won't be as common as it was in the pre-NIL days. A lot of the focus has shifted from getting an education at a school you love to selling yourself to the highest bidder on a yearly basis.
 
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Vol for Life - Guy who has/had an affiliation at any time who puts the school in a positive light.

Vawl fer LIIIfe - Fictional fan construct where people attempt to assign degrees of school spirit like a perpetual high school pep rally.
 
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VOLtaism said:
So a kid who is making nothing suddenly gets a $300K payday, and per the agent, is looking at a future NFL contact in the millions, his life is not altered? If you are working as an agent it's your job to advise on income potential, otherwise you are not needed. Agents will destroy the sport.
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And then the kid blows out his knee and does not have an NFL contract. (Who was the RB at USCjr whose career ended way too soon?) If he does get the NFL contract and ends up playing a few years, then the NIL money was not life-altering, it just sped up the process.

But if you're a player who is not projected to go on the NFL (the vast majority of players BTW), $300K is a lot short-term, but in the big picture won't last more than a few years. (Wait til you see how much they have to pay in taxes!)

I'm simply pointing out that the players that endear themselves to the alumni fanbase can POTENTIALLY gain much more in the long run through future job opportunities, etc. Check out Clay Travis's Outkick podcast for his take on this, and I think he's largely correct.
 
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Exiled said:
Except you can’t always come back. A lot of these guys aren’t worth what their agents and advisors are telling them they are. They are entering the portal only to find no one else thinks they are worth what they’ve been told and then their original team is saying “nah, we’re fine without you.”
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That's how the free market self corrects.
 
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Big Orange Rob said:
Getting big money and being a VFL are not always mutually exclusive. There will still be a few that make the bucks and still bleed orange. Unfortunately, it won't be as common as it was in the pre-NIL days. A lot of the focus has shifted from getting an education at a school you love to selling yourself to the highest bidder on a yearly basis.
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It has been that way since the 70s.
 
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VOLtaism said:
If I was an agent I would be advising my player to hit the portal at every opportunity to ascertain full value, you can always come back to the current team. Play hard enough to keep your starting job but don't do any Kamikaze stuff that can get you hurt. Staying healthy and earning is first priority. This is just good business practice and the sport is now a business. You can leave that rah rah rah stuff at the door, we are talking life altering money.
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I have gone from cheering for players to pulling for the logo or brand. The brand that has the most money, manages it well and has the best coaching and staff wins.
 
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Gonna miss Tony V. What a magical time for baseball since we don’t see too many championships around here in our sports anymore. Can’t wait to see the 2026 baseball team!
 
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