Aren't You Glad that Jimbo Is No Longer As Involved With the Vols Coaching Hires

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I came across this article and was thinking about the times that Jimmy Haslam and the rest of the family used to be heavily involved in the coaching searches and hires of our beloved Vols football team and glad that is no longer the case as he is more focused on his Browns these days.

 
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Voltopia said:
Uh ... so the question is, am I glad that a family of billionaires or near-billionaires is less involved with the Tennessee athletic department these days?

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No, I don't think that was the question at all.

Is your insinuation that people with money produce good sports related decisions? Because, if so lmao.
 
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howie87 said:
No, I don't think that was the question at all.

Is your insinuation that people with money produce good sports related decisions? Because, if so lmao.
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I think my insinuation was that in an era where the sport is almost entirely about money, I'm of mixed thoughts about billionaires being less involved (read: "more focused on the Browns") with Tennessee athletics.

Considering how universally everyone says "we have to have the resources to compete," I find exeuberance over some of UT's wealthiest supporters being focused on other things kind of ironic. No, strike that - totally ironic.
 
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Voltopia said:
I think my insinuation was that in an era where the sport is almost entirely about money, I'm of mixed thoughts about billionaires being less involved (read: "more focused on the Browns") with Tennessee athletics.

Considering how universally everyone says "we have to have the resources to compete," I find exeuberance over some of UT's wealthiest supporters being focused on other things kind of ironic. No, strike that - totally ironic.
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The wealthiest team surely won the NC this year then, right?
 
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sambronkowitz said:
I came across this article and was thinking about the times that Jimmy Haslam and the rest of the family used to be heavily involved in the coaching searches and hires of our beloved Vols football team and glad that is no longer the case as he is more focused on his Browns these days.

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Do you have some inside information regarding Haslem family input on coach
hing hires? Or you just parroting what you read on the internet, like this site.? It’s just full of so called insiders.
 
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howie87 said:
The wealthiest team surely won the NC this year then, right?
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That isn't even remotely my point. It's incredibly jarring and thus amusing to think about college fans being excited that their wealthiest supporters are becoming less involved. Like, how does one make that trip? How much of the talk on here is "we need more money!" "We need billionaires to compete!" "We need the wealth to compete with the big spenders!" All of which could be characterized as fair sentiments. And now we've got a post stating "thank goodness this billionaire isn't as involved."

That is a funny sentiment to juxtapose against the constant howling for money money money. "Are you glad they're not as involved?" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I guess? I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe?

Is there more to dissect? Sure. But I don't care if the Halsams were a good influence or a bad influence, that's not my point and it's never been the point. It's just laughing at the irony. There's layers to the comedy too. Do we need money or not? Do we want the resources or not? What's worse? Haslams or much less money? It's just funny. Bah. Now the joke is ruined. I've gotta go knit this out.
 
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Dansky said:
Do you have some inside information regarding Haslem family input on coach
hing hires? Or you just parroting what you read on the internet, like this site.? It’s just full of so called insiders.
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You can come across articles online. Haslam was one of the ones in heavily firing Fulmer. And he was a big reason we ended up with Butch Jones in 2012. And Jimbo was the one that tried to get Greg Schiano hired before that went off the rails. It's all common knowledge. And there are articles about that you can come across and read.
 
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sambronkowitz said:
You can come across articles online. Haslam was one of the ones in heavily firing Fulmer. And he was a big reason we ended up with Butch Jones in 2012. And Jimbo was the one that tried to get Greg Schiano hired before that went off the rails. It's all common knowledge. And there are articles about that you can come across and read.
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We’ll take his money, just not his advice
 
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How much longer will the Big Money people continue to donate to a profit-making enterprise without expecting some return on investment?
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Money always comes with advice, either wanted or unwanted.
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Yep, Haslam didn’t always contribute the best advice on how to use his donations. But it’s a Catch 22. If you don’t get the money, you aren’t going to compete and you won’t get the chance to judge whether the donor helped or not. Personally I think it works better if the big money writes the check and gets out of the way. Pretty sure that’s how it works with Phil Knight and Mark Cuban but Haslam certainly wasn’t that way.
 
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Just for the record according to Forbes Jimmy Haslam's net worth is 8.7B. Mark Cuban's is 6B.

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Mark Cuban

Mark Cuban is #246 on Forbes' 2025 Forbes 400 list. Read more about Mark Cuban, their experience, their asset summary, and more here.
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Jimmy Haslam

Jimmy Haslam is #153 on Forbes' 2025 Forbes 400 list. Read more about Jimmy Haslam, their experience, their asset summary, and more here.
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howie87 said:
The wealthiest team surely won the NC this year then, right?
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Mark Cuban has got a ton of money. Unlike Haslam, he's shown himself to be competent at building a competitive professional team as well.

The Haslam family sure has a lot of money but they haven't used that money to make good football decisions.
 
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sambronkowitz said:
You can come across articles online. Haslam was one of the ones in heavily firing Fulmer. And he was a big reason we ended up with Butch Jones in 2012. And Jimbo was the one that tried to get Greg Schiano hired before that went off the rails. It's all common knowledge. And there are articles about that you can come across and read.
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Articles on line. That’s always really correct and truthful.
 
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sambronkowitz said:
You can come across articles online. Haslam was one of the ones in heavily firing Fulmer. And he was a big reason we ended up with Butch Jones in 2012. And Jimbo was the one that tried to get Greg Schiano hired before that went off the rails. It's all common knowledge. And there are articles about that you can come across and read.
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However, Haslam wasn't involved with the Pruitt hire. That was Charlie Anderson if I remember correctly and that one didn't go any better without Haslam's involvement.
 
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