Are you still confident in Josh “Beuhler..Buehler” Elander turning this around?

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I’m not, but is what it is.

In order to win in this league you need to have an ego, have prickheadish tendencies, and not afraid to argue or be confrontational. I don’t see that with him.

I see Buzz Petersen.
 
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Bigun said:
I’m not, but is what it is.

In order to win in this league you need to have an ego, have prickheadish tendencies, and not afraid to argue or be confrontational. I don’t see that with him.

I see Buzz Petersen.
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Have you meet him personally? If no, how do you know if he’s a prick or not?
 
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I’ve met Coach Elander and he’s a class act. This roster is 167th in the country and 13th in SEC in Returning Production. They are young and inexperienced. Think how much Burke, Moore, Ensley, Tears, etc improved from their sophomore to junior years. I will continue to support E and appreciate that he acknowledges that he needs to also improve as a head coach. He’s a first year head coach and has lots of room for improvement. I always thought 2026 was going to be a challenging year, but admittedly these Sunday debacles have been gut wrenching.
 
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I’m confident that CJE knows what it’s supposed to look like.

Maybe if Frank was here things might be different in the pen, dude was a legend before he got here and he cemented that legend here.

Of course, replacing CTV is impossible and the fire and attitude may not be CJE’s personality.

I don’t remember which guy he yanked after a 1 pitch appearance but it tells me he can put his foot down. The postgame, he said all the right things.

We just played the defending NC’s. There’s no shame in that one, and I think the staff will figure this out, but the players have some culpability too.

The grind continues and it isn’t gonna get any easier. They feel worse than we do and they didn’t come here to get shellacked. They also didn’t get here without the potential to compete at this level. I have faith but there needs to be a sense of urgency.

GBO!!!
 
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taylorvol said:
I’ve met Coach Elander and he’s a class act. This roster is 167th in the country and 13th in SEC in Returning Production. They are young and inexperienced. Think how much Burke, Moore, Ensley, Tears, etc improved from their sophomore to junior years. I will continue to support E and appreciate that he acknowledges that he needs to also improve as a head coach. He’s a first year head coach and has lots of room for improvement. I always thought 2026 was going to be a challenging year, but admittedly these Sunday debacles have been gut wrenching.
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Do you think it’s just a young roster or just poorly assembled? I’m sure JE thought guys like Abernathy and Newstrom would be producing better.
 
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THEONLYTENISEE said:
Do you think it’s just a young roster or just poorly assembled? I’m sure JE thought guys like Abernathy and Newstrom would be producing better.
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You need more Juniors and a few a Seniors to compete at a high level. Most of the elite former Vols didn’t light it up their Sophomore years either. The lack of continuity on the pitching staff hasn’t helped either. I would have liked to have seen Loy, Sherman, Sharp,Wiggins, etc back for another year of development.
 
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taylorvol said:
I’ve met Coach Elander and he’s a class act. This roster is 167th in the country and 13th in SEC in Returning Production. They are young and inexperienced. Think how much Burke, Moore, Ensley, Tears, etc improved from their sophomore to junior years. I will continue to support E and appreciate that he acknowledges that he needs to also improve as a head coach. He’s a first year head coach and has lots of room for improvement. I always thought 2026 was going to be a challenging year, but admittedly these Sunday debacles have been gut wrenching.
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What this fella said! Young team. Coach Elander was basically picked by the team. And given the timing of CTV leaving, that was best case. Yeah, growing pains. Losing in late innings suck. However, the team is going to grow and learn. Let's all be patient.
 
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This team's hitting is absolutely wretched, especially when compared to the past four years. The most glaring difference is the comparative absence of any power from the hitters. I also see a lot of swing-and-miss from pitches way out of the strike zone.

That being said, Elander is going to be given a chance to mold this team in his image. Let's hope there is marked improvement going forward.
 
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vol66 said:
I’m confident that CJE knows what it’s supposed to look like.

Maybe if Frank was here things might be different in the pen, dude was a legend before he got here and he cemented that legend here.

Of course, replacing CTV is impossible and the fire and attitude may not be CJE’s personality.

I don’t remember which guy he yanked after a 1 pitch appearance but it tells me he can put his foot down. The postgame, he said all the right things.

We just played the defending NC’s. There’s no shame in that one, and I think the staff will figure this out, but the players have some culpability too.

The grind continues and it isn’t gonna get any easier. They feel worse than we do and they didn’t come here to get shellacked. They also didn’t get here without the potential to compete at this level. I have faith but there needs to be a sense of urgency.

GBO!!!
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LSU this year isn’t ranked and won’t sniff an NC. If what you saw today and Friday night was no shame then our standards as a program have cratered.

The stats are beyond horrendous. In a year where Elander said it was a major focus to do better on Sundays we’ve now blown a 5-run lead to UGA, a 15-10 lead to Vandy and a 5-0 lead to LSU. The past 2 Sundays we’ve have given up 32 runs…to two unranked teams. Our bullpen today in 5 innings gave up 15 hits (almost as much as many hits as we had on the weekend) and 14 earned runs
 
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LSU this year isn’t ranked and won’t sniff an NC. If what you saw today and Friday night was no shame then our standards as a program have cratered.

The stats are beyond horrendous. In a year where Elander said it was a major focus to do better on Sundays we’ve now blown a 5-run lead to UGA, a 15-10 lead to Vandy and a 5-0 lead to LSU. The past 2 Sundays we’ve have given up 32 runs…to two unranked teams. Our bullpen today in 5 innings gave up 15 hits (almost as much as many hits as we had on the weekend) and 14 earned runs
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LSU wasn’t the best team in the nation nor the conference and still won last year’s championship.
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This team's hitting is absolutely wretched, especially when compared to the past four years. The most glaring difference is the comparative absence of any power from the hitters. I also see a lot of swing-and-miss from pitches way out of the strike zone.

That being said, Elander is going to be given a chance to mold this team in his image. Let's hope there is marked improvement going forward.
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Abernathy hitting .077 in SEC play. We’ve got to find someone at 2nd who can hit. I thinking we see Newstrom back in the lineup.
 
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vol66 said:
I’m confident that CJE knows what it’s supposed to look like.

Maybe if Frank was here things might be different in the pen, dude was a legend before he got here and he cemented that legend here.

Of course, replacing CTV is impossible and the fire and attitude may not be CJE’s personality.

I don’t remember which guy he yanked after a 1 pitch appearance but it tells me he can put his foot down. The postgame, he said all the right things.

We just played the defending NC’s. There’s no shame in that one, and I think the staff will figure this out, but the players have some culpability too.

The grind continues and it isn’t gonna get any easier. They feel worse than we do and they didn’t come here to get shellacked. They also didn’t get here without the potential to compete at this level. I have faith but there needs to be a sense of urgency.

GBO!!!
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There you go again with your sensible posts. Are you practicing your smoke signals?
 
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TN Jed said:
What this fella said! Young team. Coach Elander was basically picked by the team. And given the timing of CTV leaving, that was best case. Yeah, growing pains. Losing in late innings suck. However, the team is going to grow and learn. Let's all be patient.
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I'm just going to add to this....all those fellas wear orange.....they're the ones that put time in training, lifting, batting cage....all that stuff. I just got to play in high school. Point is, they don't need some arm chair manager putting crap up on a message board. They're putting in the sweat and blood. They're plenty talented enough, or else they wouldn'tbe here. But, when you're in the SEC, you might as well be playing minor league ball. Ain't easy. Give these fellas some grace.
 
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Bigun said:
LSU this year isn’t ranked and won’t sniff an NC. If what you saw today and Friday night was no shame then our standards as a program have cratered.

The stats are beyond horrendous. In a year where Elander said it was a major focus to do better on Sundays we’ve now blown a 5-run lead to UGA, a 15-10 lead to Vandy and a 5-0 lead to LSU. The past 2 Sundays we’ve have given up 32 runs…to two unranked teams. Our bullpen today in 5 innings gave up 15 hits (almost as much as many hits as we had on the weekend) and 14 earned runs
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All I meant was Josh is a first year SEC head coach going up against guys that have been there, done that, in the likes of Corbin and Johnson. It’s gonna take time. I don’t disagree with you and I share your frustration. He isn’t going anywhere any time soon, so I guess, where we differ is expectations and patience.

GBO!!!
 
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Boy, this all changed fast. A few months ago, had anyone challenged the "He Deserves It" narrative, they were summarily tarred, feathered, and run off the board. Now this. Does he not DESERVE it anymore?
 
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Too early to tell.

Prior to the season, I would have imagined the pitching, particularly the pen to struggle (given the departure of Anderson).

The really surprising aspect of this team is the lack of hitting. With Elander having been the hitting coach under Vitello, I would have expected the hitting to be ahead of the pitching. Additionally, although Vitello is gone, there just doesn't seem to be any juice with this team; almost as if they are going through the motions. The former one could blame on youth, the latter is a bit more concerning in terms of our HC.
 
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volfan411 said:
I am not ready to give up on Josh just yet. He is a young coach with a young roster that was always a recipe for disaster so I am withholding judgment until I see how we finish the season and how he recruits this offseason.
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You did notice how young LSU’s roster was didn’t you. LSU is not a really good team. Their pitching isn’t great.
 
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