The Real story on McCoy from Marvin West

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Hope the Raiders got a real steal!
 
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Hope the Raiders got a real steal!
Glad I checked before I posted this. Yeah he would have made as much had he stayed and most likely improved his stock from what it fell to. I just never felt he would go that high after missing an entire year and only playing two years of college football—one of which was at Oregon State. And if he did go first round, my thoughts were the team would be crazy. Poor and selfish agent work there. My guess is the agent knew he would get drafted one way or the other and make relatively the same, with the upside of going early and making 20 million. The realistic side of that was McCoy wouldn’t go that high after missing a year due to injury and only playing two years in CFB and could return, make the same money, grow, and reestablisjh his stock and brand, then go make his 20 million the next year.
 
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Hope the Raiders got a real steal!
Mr West continues to be the best sports journalist around. Have never upset with is articles or his content. Love reading his work
 
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Glad I checked before I posted this. Yeah he would have made as much had he stayed and most likely improved his stock from what it fell to. I just never felt he would go that high after missing an entire year and only playing two years of college football—one of which was at Oregon State. And if he did go first round, my thoughts were the team would be crazy. Poor and selfish agent work there. My guess is the agent knew he would get drafted one way or the other and make relatively the same, with the upside of going early a making 20 million. The realistic side of that was McCoy won’t go that higher after missing a year due to injury and only playing two years in CFB and could return, make the same money, grow, and reestablisjh his stock and brand, then go make his 20 million the next year.
Playing wouldn't have changed anything on his draft stock. The concern is he will need another surgery in the unknown future due to the bone plug. Playing last year or playing college ball in 2026 and entering the draft in 2027 wouldn't change that.
 
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I wonder if hindsight was 20/20, if he would have been better off coming back for another year.

I hope he kills it, but im sad that a hypothetical possibility cost him millions
 
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Anyone remember when Peyton (and others) had to purchase insurance policies against injuries for coming back?
 
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He ran a sub. 4.4 on his pro day. There is zero doubt about his ability or his speed and talent. All that is 1st round caliber still. This is strictly about durability. You have to know the NFL knows a little bit about bone plugs for knee repairs like his. I'm happy he was drafted and I hope he has a very long lucrative career. The odds are against that happening for him. His sitting out last season given this was probably a wise decision. The NFL is saying he only has so many plays on that knee the way it is.
 
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Playing wouldn't have changed anything on his draft stock. The concern is he will need another surgery in the unknown future due to the bone plug. Playing last year or playing college ball in 2026 and entering the draft in 2027 wouldn't change that.
In addition, he might have had another injury which would certainly have impacted his draft status negatively.
 
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Pettiness over the McCoy situation is a horrible look for grown ass ADULTS.
Planning your day around a bunch of 20-30 year olds who chase a ball fits that description also. Do you like sports or do you not?
 
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For those speaking in hypotheticals...say McCoy comes back in the 3rd or 4th game last year.
That early return only brings to light the bone plug issue earlier, forcing him to have surgery then in stead of now.
He misses the rest of the season, likely the combine, and maybe even the Pro Day.

Does he still get drafted higher than he did?
 
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Does anyone think McCoy would have improved his draft stock by having another surgery and returning to college one more season? Everyone is making a big deal about this, but I'm not sure the alternative path would have gotten him drafted any higher.
 
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Pettiness over the McCoy situation is a horrible look for grown ass ADULTS.
Good arguments on both sides. Not sure that it’s petty for someone to want an athlete to play when they were paid large sums of money for exactly that. Yes I realize NIL isn’t for measured or tied to performance. Yes I also realize that individual would’ve never had that monetary opportunity if not for UT football. With money comes expectations. Story old as time.
 
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Playing wouldn't have changed anything on his draft stock. The concern is he will need another surgery in the unknown future due to the bone plug. Playing last year or playing college ball in 2026 and entering the draft in 2027 wouldn't change that.
11 games of starting and performing would definitely have elevated his stock. We slam these kids making life career choices after major health setbacks and act like he “let the team down”. The kid wasn’t ready to play based on the best judge of that, himself. Gambling with your future at 18 is a rough bet. All of his teammates like/support him, and none begrudged him for sitting. Usually that’s the best indicator. He kept practicing, kept trying to get on the field. Didn’t get there. That hurts him more than anyone else.
 
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11 games of starting and performing would definitely have elevated his stock. We slam these kids making life career choices after major health setbacks and act like he “let the team down”. The kid wasn’t ready to play based on the best judge of that, himself. Gambling with your future at 18 is a rough bet. All of his teammates like/support him, and none begrudged him for sitting. Usually that’s the best indicator. He kept practicing, kept trying to get on the field. Didn’t get there. That hurts him more than anyone else.
I don't begrudge him for waiting till he's ready. He probably made the right decision. Especially if the reports about him getting knee swelling from practice was true.

I just don't think playing would have improved anything because he was already projected in December as the expected first cb taken top 10 pick. It doesn't get better than that. That held until the combine when Mansoor Delane had a good showing and McCoy only did bench press. But he was still predicted as early 1st round second cb taken. That didn't change after his pro-day. Several mock drafts I saw had him going in the 9-14 spot. Only until a day or two before the draft when the bone plug issue became known publicly is when his draft stock began to fall. Ian Rapaport and Tom Pelissero both said during and after the draft that team doctors had no concern about his ACL repair. That had healed fine so far. Teams knew his talents and his ability as a lockdown corner. That wasn't why he had not been drafted. It was the potential for another surgery that would take a year to recover from is what drove teams to wait till the 3rd day.
 

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