4 way tie at the top?

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What happens if this happens;
We go 11-1, loss to UGA
Bama, 1 loss, to VOLS
Texas, 1 loss, to UGA
UGA, 1 loss, to Bama

This is CRAZY! Who would go the SECCG and how would all 4 teams be seeded in the playoffs?
 
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In the event of a tie between teams competing for a place in the Conference championship game, the following procedures will be used in descending order until the tie is broken:

1.Head-to-head competition among the tied teams

2.Record versus all common Conference opponents among the tied teams

3.Record against highest (best) placed common Conference opponent in the Conference standings, and proceeding through the Conference standings among the tied teams

4.Cumulative Conference winning percentage of all Conference opponents among the tied teams

5.Capped relative total scoring margin versus all Conference opponents among the tied teams

6.Random draw of the tied teams
 
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What happens if this happens;
We go 11-1, loss to UGA
Bama, 1 loss, to VOLS
Texas, 1 loss, to UGA
UGA, 1 loss, to Bama

This is CRAZY! Who would go the SECCG and how would all 4 teams be seeded in the playoffs?
Something similar happened in '89. UT beat Auburn. Bama beat UT. Auburn beat Bama.

It was a bit more cut & dry as the team that hadn't been to the Sugar Bowl the longest got the nod. In that case it was Bama even though all 3 "won" the SEC.
 
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In the event of a tie between teams competing for a place in the Conference championship game, the following procedures will be used in descending order until the tie is broken:

1.Head-to-head competition among the tied teams

2.Record versus all common Conference opponents among the tied teams

3.Record against highest (best) placed common Conference opponent in the Conference standings, and proceeding through the Conference standings among the tied teams

4.Cumulative Conference winning percentage of all Conference opponents among the tied teams

5.Capped relative total scoring margin versus all Conference opponents among the tied teams

6.Random draw of the tied teams
That would get us to #3! So you're saying we have to route for everyone we play to win all the rest of their games! Crazytown!
 
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That scenario guarantees the one loss teams are playoff bound. The loser of the SEC Champ game could be left out, a la GA last season.
 
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Something similar happened in '89. UT beat Auburn. Bama beat UT. Auburn beat Bama.

It was a bit more cut & dry as the team that hadn't been to the Sugar Bowl the longest got the nod. In that case it was Bama even though all 3 "won" the SEC.
It happened more recently than that, with georgia florida and ut all beating each other and tying for the sec east.

Had to Google. 2003 georgia got the bcs tiebreaker
 
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That scenario guarantees the one loss teams are playoff bound. The loser of the SEC Champ game could be left out, a la GA last season.
That scenario guarantees the one loss teams are playoff bound. The loser of the SEC Champ game could be left out, a la GA last season.
Exactly. 1-4 are conf champions and then a G5 school.

The other seven are determined on rankings. I never thought I’d shy away from a game, but I rather a one loss TN team NOT make the SEC championship game and leave it in the committee’s hands.
 
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That scenario guarantees the one loss teams are playoff bound. The loser of the SEC Champ game could be left out, a la GA last season.
The loser of the SEC championship game is definitely in a 12 team playoff.

I still think the loser of the SEC CG is screwed. Because they have to play that game and they don’t earn a bye in the playoff. The 3rd place SEC team is much better off. Because the championship game week becomes essentially a bye.
 
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Top 2 ranked, perhaps?
They haven’t used rankings as a tiebreaker since the CFP rankings began in 2014. And really, they’ll never use rankings as a tiebreaker anymore since they (correctly) realized that would also be using these teams’ out of conference games (and in some cases, how those teams did in another conference) to determine an in-conference champion.
 
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In the event of a tie between teams competing for a place in the Conference championship game, the following procedures will be used in descending order until the tie is broken:

1.Head-to-head competition among the tied teams

2.Record versus all common Conference opponents among the tied teams

3.Record against highest (best) placed common Conference opponent in the Conference standings, and proceeding through the Conference standings among the tied teams

4.Cumulative Conference winning percentage of all Conference opponents among the tied teams

5.Capped relative total scoring margin versus all Conference opponents among the tied teams

6.Random draw of the tied teams
For the scenario in the OP, I think it gets decided by number 4. UGA would likely be number 1 and Bama number 2 based on the strength of each teams conference schedule.
 
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Georgia wins with wins against both UT’s
I thought about that but am not sure if head to head counts if everyone hasn't played each other.

If that's the case then UGA gets 1st spot and TX would be eliminated. Then the Vols have the tiebreaker vs Bama for the 2nd spot in the CCG.
 
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Texas wouldn’t have any quality wins so they’re out. UGA and Bama have more difficult schedules, so they’d probably be the highest ranked and have a rematch in the SECCG.
 
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The loser of the SEC championship game is definitely in a 12 team playoff.

I still think the loser of the SEC CG is screwed. Because they have to play that game and they don’t earn a bye in the playoff. The 3rd place SEC team is much better off. Because the championship game week becomes essentially a bye.

I could see an opportunity for chaos in some of these CG’s. Just for example it’s Texas vs UGA and Beck goes down early with a serious injury and they lose by 30. It could be the FSU ordeal all over again.
 
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What happens if this happens;
We go 11-1, loss to UGA
Bama, 1 loss, to VOLS
Texas, 1 loss, to UGA
UGA, 1 loss, to Bama

This is CRAZY! Who would go the SECCG and how would all 4 teams be seeded in the playoffs?
I'm not sure but I think they go by the scores. If that is correct, we may regret going conservative on Okl.
 
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What happens if this happens;
We go 11-1, loss to UGA
Bama, 1 loss, to VOLS
Texas, 1 loss, to UGA
UGA, 1 loss, to Bama

This is CRAZY! Who would go the SECCG and how would all 4 teams be seeded in the playoffs?
I think Post 3 is correct.
Step 1: TEX would be 0-1
ALA would be 1-1
GA would be 2-1
TENN would be 1-1

So GA would advance, no?
 
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The loser of the SEC championship game is definitely in a 12 team playoff.

I still think the loser of the SEC CG is screwed. Because they have to play that game and they don’t earn a bye in the playoff. The 3rd place SEC team is much better off. Because the championship game week becomes essentially a bye.
It'll never happen because of money, but They should just eliminate the conference championship games with they new expanded playoff. For some teams playing in it, it won't be worth the risk.
 
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For the scenario in the OP, I think it gets decided by number 4. UGA would likely be number 1 and Bama number 2 based on the strength of each teams conference schedule.
Hmm, wouldn't Texas be knocked out first, though, by rule 1? "Head-to-head competition among the tied teams"

If we're all 11-1 (7-1 SEC), then the head-to-head among these four would be:
-- Vols 1-1 (beat Bama, lost to UGa)
-- Bama 1-1 (beat UGa, lost to Vols)
-- UGa 1-1 (lost to Bama, beat Vols)
-- Texas 0-1 (only played UGa, a loss)

And 0-1 is worse than 1-1. So eliminate Texas and start over with the tie-breakers, right?

Then quickly get to rule 4, as you say.

There's a lot more football to be played, but as of today, the order would be: Bama (record of all SEC opponents combined is 4-5, a .444 win rate), then Tennessee (4-8, a .333 win rate), and then UGa (3-8, a .273 win rate).

As of today, Tennessee's conference schedule (OK, Arky, FL, KY, Miss St, and Vandy, plus of course UGa and Bama, the two we'd be tied with) is harder than UGa's (KY, Auburn, Miss St, Texas, FL, and Ole Miss, plus the tied two). Heh.

So we and Bama would go to Atlanta, while UGa and Texas would stay home. Using results as of today.

Go Vols!
 
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What happens if this happens;
We go 11-1, loss to UGA
Bama, 1 loss, to VOLS
Texas, 1 loss, to UGA
UGA, 1 loss, to Bama

This is CRAZY! Who would go the SECCG and how would all 4 teams be seeded in the playoffs?
Strength of schedule would definitely come into play
 

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