45% Favor Impeaching President Bush

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I really doubt most of America knows what impeachment is, much less how to go about doing it. What are the crimes and misdemeanors he would be convicted of?
 
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Those assembled cited various Bush actions or policies, including "lies that led the U.S. into war."

They also said that Bush--Cheney policies precipitated torture, illegal spying on American citizens, and the curtailment of privacy and civil rights in the name of fighting terrorism.
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Lies! OMG! Yeah, that's a real high crime these days...practiced by 99% of politicians.

"Spying on American citizens"...Otherwise known as the Patriot Act, which was passed by the Senate, and then reenacted.

Gotta love that Green Party
 
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It looks like our fellow from the Green Party in LA doesn't know what it takes.
 
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UTLCA said:
Lies! OMG! Yeah, that's a real high crime these days...practiced by 99% of politicians.

"Spying on American citizens"...Otherwise known as the Patriot Act, which was passed by the Senate, and then reenacted.

Gotta love that Green Party
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Wasn't Clinton impeached for lying?
 
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Clinton's "lies", which he never should have faced impeachemnt for, were made under oath. The concept that people support impeachment for essentially disagreements with policy shows me that a substantial portion of this country is totally ignorant to the underlying precepts of representative democracy.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Clinton's "lies", which he never should have faced impeachemnt for, were made under oath. The concept that people support impeachment for essentially disagreements with policy shows me that a substantial portion of this country is totally ignorant to the underlying precepts of representative democracy.
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Gotcha. I was just confused as to how being impeached for perjury was not being impeached for lying. But your point stands - oath is obviously the important connector.

My question is: as a sitting president can you claim executive privilege about anything you want to avoid testifying under oath to anyone?
 
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The scope of executive privilege is very nebulous. Its limits, if there are in fact limits, are poorly defined. Essentially, it becomes a case by case review of whether or not privilege is applicable. The Bush Administration's extremely broad interpretation of what is privileged will likely lead to some court decisions that will more specifically define the parameters.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Clinton's "lies", which he never should have faced impeachemnt for, were made under oath. The concept that people support impeachment for essentially disagreements with policy shows me that a substantial portion of this country is totally ignorant to the underlying precepts of representative democracy.
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the case should never have gotten to the point of a grand jury once it veered away from the Whitewater affair. Since it did get there and he did lie to the grand jury, we needed to publicly display the fact that the government, even the king, is accountable to the law. The whole impeachment process was for show, because there was no prayer of getting through the senate.
 
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hatvol96 said:
The scope of executive privilege is very nebulous. Its limits, if there are in fact limits, are poorly defined. Essentially, it becomes a case by case review of whether or not privilege is applicable. The Bush Administration's extremely broad interpretation of what is privileged will likely lead to some court decisions that will more specifically define the parameters.
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I hope so. I have gotten really tired of seeing the relentless and wide use of executive privilege by this administration. It is not in the interest of the country (IMO) to have this kind of apparently unchecked power residing in the executive branch.
 
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the Dems are moving toward impeachment because George Soros tells them that's what they're going to do.

It would be nice, although it's not going to happen, if the Reid/Pelosi-led Congress actually started following through on some of the promises it made to the American people. In just 6 months, they have proven that their leadership is just as incompetent as Bush's.
 
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UTLCA said:
I really doubt most of America knows what impeachment is, much less how to go about doing it. What are the crimes and misdemeanors he would be convicted of?
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After having it pounded into the minds of the people during the 90's I'd say more people understand it than you'd think.
 
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