8 Team Playoffs

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Devo182 said:
Nope. All sports seem to understand best practices, except the tradionalist CFB fans that think the feelings of 6-6 bowl teams should take precedence over determining the best team. As they die off, CFB will come closer to joining the modern world.
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Some of the line of thinking by "traditionalists" college football fan is just archaic. Let's go back to the Bowl Alliance and see all those sweet match ups .

Nebraska is 1 and Miami is 2. Let's let them play. No way! Nebraska has to play in the Fiesta Bowl and Miami has to play in the Orange Bowl, whoever looks better wins the title according AP, UPI, USA Today. Makes sense. But was the Rose Bowl played on News Years day? Because that's what was most important.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
Some of the line of thinking by "traditionalists" college football fan is just archaic. Let's go back to the Bowl Alliance and see all those sweet match ups .

Nebraska is 1 and Miami is 2. Let's let them play. No way! Nebraska has to play in the Fiesta Bowl and Miami has to play in the Orange Bowl, whoever looks better wins the title according AP, UPI, USA Today. Makes sense. But was the Rose Bowl played on News Years day? Because that's what was most important.
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Yup. Absolute stupidity. And people want to glorify it. smdh
 
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Devo182 said:
Nope. All sports seem to understand best practices, except the tradionalist CFB fans that think the feelings of 6-6 bowl teams should take precedence over determining the best team. As they die off, CFB will come closer to joining the modern world.
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My only concern with going to 8 is that will guarantee 2 loss teams getting a shot every year and likely at least one 3 loss team if automatic Power 5 champs get in. I know that’s the way things work in other sports but isn’t part of the reason we like college football is because it is unique? Don’t get me wrong, the extra playoff games would be fun games but I thought the main purpose of going to 4 was to avoid something like 2004 where you had 3 undefeated Power 5 teams and one never had a chance. I didn’t see the original purpose as allowing teams with multiple losses a chance and that’s exactly what will happen. I know UGA looked great against Bama but they didn’t look great against LSU or us for that matter. I’m almost to the point of saying if we’re going to go past 8 then just go ahead and do 16 and let ever single conference champ in with at large filling the rest like they do in basketball. You might as well if you’re going to let 3 loss Washington who couldn’t beat Auburn play for the title.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
My only concern with going to 8 is that will guarantee 2 loss teams getting a shot every year and likely at least one 3 loss team if automatic Power 5 champs get in. I know that’s the way things work in other sports but isn’t part of the reason we like college football is because it is unique? Don’t get me wrong, the extra playoff games would be fun games but I thought the main purpose of going to 4 was to avoid something like 2004 where you had 3 undefeated Power 5 teams and one never had a chance. I didn’t see the original purpose as allowing teams with multiple losses a chance and that’s exactly what will happen. I know UGA looked great against Bama but they didn’t look great against LSU or us for that matter. I’m almost to the point of saying if we’re going to go past 8 then just go ahead and do 16 and let ever single conference champ in with at large filling the rest like they do in basketball. You might as well if you’re going to let 3 loss Washington who couldn’t beat Auburn play for the title.
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Simple. No auto bids. Only the top teams.
 
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k-town_king said:
Simple. No auto bids. Only the top teams.
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But do we really need to go to 8 for that? Look at Washington and UF sitting there at 9 and 10. We would be one UCF loss away from a 3 loss team sitting at 8. I know I’m in the minority but I like 4 where losing a single game may eliminate you and losing 2 almost assures it.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
But do we really need to go to 8 for that? Look at Washington and UF sitting there at 9 and 10. We would be one UCF loss away from a 3 loss team sitting at 8. I know I’m in the minority but I like 4 where losing a single game may eliminate you and losing 2 almost assures it.
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I want 6 with two byes. No auto bids.
 
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k-town_king said:
Simple. No auto bids. Only the top teams.
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We know conference commissioners would never sign on for that. I would say have auto bids, but with the caveat that you have to at least be top 10 or 12 to qualify as a conference champ. If a 7-5 Arizona State team beat an top 5 Stanford team in the PAC12 title game, no way ASU gets that bid.
 
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UTwild82 said:
No, 4 is enough. I don't want 9-3 teams getting in.
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Of the top 10 teams, only #10 Florida has less then 10 wins, at 9-3. Of the Top 25 as a whole, Washington State, Fresno State, and Boise State also have met or exceeded the 10 win mark.

I could think of one other reason to expand. Equality. And no, I'm not talking about giving the UCF or Boise State type schools a chance.

Every year since the playoffs, at least one Power 5 conference, the last two years 2 of them, have been left out in the cold. The SEC and ACC are pretty much guaranteed to have someone in. Of the 5 years this has been around, so far the Pac 12 has been out 3 of them, the Big 12 hasn't been in 2, and the Big Ten hasn't been in the last two years. Had Georgia won the SEC this year, personally, I wouldn't have been surprised if Georgia and Bama had switched places and seen Oklahoma and the Big 12 sitting out this year.

As we saw this year, Notre Dame has the chance to play spoiler. Win 12, no conference championship game to worry about, and they can easily guarantee that two conferences will not have a team in the playoffs.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
8 games would be good so you would hear less teams whining about not making the playoff. The regular season would need to be shortened by at least one game. Cut out the games which are exhibitions like Tennessee vs. ETSU.
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As an ETSU alumni, I don't mind this. At the expense of not getting a nice check for that game, we could have played another FCS team and possibly had a chance to finish 9-3 instead of 8-4.
 
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How would T.V. split it up? That’s the driving force in all of this. No way Espn gets that many quarter final playoff games. Keep contracts as is. CBS will get the SEC game, Fox gets either Pac12, Big 12 or B1G game, ESPN/ABC/Disney gets the other 2. T.V. partners bid for who gets what game and what nights. 1 Thursday night 4/5 seeds (prime time), 1 Friday night 3/6 and 2 on Saturday (3:30 & 8) 2/7 & 1/8.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Same here...all conferences are not created equal, and therefore should not be given equal weight.
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Same goes for FCS, DII, DIII, college basketball, hockey, golf, and whatever...and the NFL.

Weak sauce. You're better than that. Too much time reading lg's posts.

Go Vols.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
I was responding to a Vol fan who shared my opinion, not LG.

Go Gators.
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(sigh), here...let me slow it down for you a bit.

Yes, I know you were responding to a Vol fan. This is VolNation. There are quite a few of them wandering around here.

There is no confusing lg with a Vol fan. My comment, which might have sailed a bit high for you, was a snarky reference to some of the eye-rollers that lg posts here. In other words, stop reading his posts; you're starting to sound like him.

And FYI, I actually have a Gators golf towel in my possession.

I keep it under my bathroom sink in case I run out of toilet paper.

:cool:

Go Vols.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
(sigh), here...let me slow it down for you a bit.

Yes, I know you were responding to a Vol fan. This is VolNation. There are quite a few of them wandering around here.

There is no confusing lg with a Vol fan. My comment, which might have sailed a bit high for you, was a snarky reference to some of the eye-rollers that lg posts here. In other words, stop reading his posts; you're starting to sound like him.

And FYI, I actually have a Gators golf towel in my possession.

I keep it under my bathroom sink in case I run out of toilet paper.

:cool:

Go Vols.
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Your attempt to insult my intelligence is noted.

Your obsession with LG is also noted.
 
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TenUhSee said:
discussion is heating up again to expand the current 4 team college football playoffs to 8 teams and support is growing to make this happen.

is this a good or bad idea ..... whats your opinion ?
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8 is better than 4, but my idea is take the champion from each conference and 2 or 3 wildcards. You have to win your own conference to be in it unless you are a really good runner up like Georgia was this year.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
How would T.V. split it up? That’s the driving force in all of this. No way Espn gets that many quarter final playoff games. Keep contracts as is. CBS will get the SEC game, Fox gets either Pac12, Big 12 or B1G game, ESPN/ABC/Disney gets the other 2. T.V. partners bid for who gets what game and what nights. 1 Thursday night 4/5 seeds (prime time), 1 Friday night 3/6 and 2 on Saturday (3:30 & 8) 2/7 & 1/8.
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It wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea to cut the FCS games. When ETSU came down to Knoxville, UT wrote us a nice check, and that was pretty much it. FBS teams can either add another Power 5 team, or if they want a guaranteed win, a Group of 5 team. Or, this is the big one, just go back to 11 game seasons. At the expense of no FCS matchup and a guaranteed win, maybe having a 2nd bye week to rest and regroup might be of more use to some teams.
 
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Forever151 said:
Give me 8 teams

ACC conference Winner
SEC Conference Winner
Big 10 Conference winner
Big 12 Conference Winner
PAC 12 Conference Winner
At Large
At Large
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Top Two records get a bye
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The G5 best record should get a spot and the SEC runner up plus the ACC or B1G runner up get the last 2 spots. There’s your 8 teams....
 
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Forever151 said:
Give me 8 teams

ACC conference Winner
SEC Conference Winner
Big 10 Conference winner
Big 12 Conference Winner
PAC 12 Conference Winner
At Large
At Large
At Large

Top Two records get a bye
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Two bye teams wouldn't work. If the six teams that don't get a bye right away each play immediately, that's three games. Three teams would be eliminated, three teams would advance.

Now obviously two of those teams would be paired against the two teams that get a bye.

But what do you do with the fifth team? If it's the weakest team, you could exclude them, but that would defeat the purpose of having them in the playoffs. Or you could have them play one of the 2nd round winners, in which case one team is going to have to play an extra game, thus negating any potential bye benefit, while the other semifinal winner would get another week off to see who they would end up playing.

It's doable, but it's definitely not very practical.
 
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