A&M gives NCAA middle finger

[ntxVOL]

A&M is telling the NCAA, they don't care about their rules, they are following state law. TX state law also says they can't be sanctioned, if they are complying with the state's NIL guidelines.

This could get interesting.

 

[jeff1vol]

There are some issues here that nobody seems to think about. The NCAA is governed by the member institutions, not various state laws, etc. The member institutions are a voluntary part of the NCAA. They have all agreed to follow a set of rules set forth in the bylaws. SO... the NCAA can either revise bylaws to accommodate, OR the can come back and say "fine"... you're no longer a part of the NCAA. Pretty simple. This is why I think the NCAA will be dissolved sooner rather than later. A new, broader reaching, type of governing body will be formed mainly for oversight, etc. The players unions are coming.

 

[Volnanza]

A&M is telling the NCAA, they don't care about their rules, they are following state law. TX state law also says they can't be sanctioned, if they are complying with the state's NIL guidelines.

This could get interesting.

I wish we would smarten up like this. Schools that kiss the ncaa ring get reamed. Schools that tell them to get lost are never touched.

 

[BruisedOrange]

What is the Tennessee state legislature working on now, related to NIL? The opportunists have made their initial moves to not let their institutions fall behind... but now a bigger picture should be emerging. Or rather, the LACK of a bigger picture is emerging.

If collegiate athletics is going to be saved in any recognizable form, it's going to happen because of the states, not the NCAA. FWIW, state legislators are communicating and coordinating with their counterparts more so than ever.

This whole thing started not with a vision for what college athletics could or should look like, but simply a clumsy, poorly-conceived, drastic change of direction to make things more fair. Fairness was needed, but the execution was abominable.

Conservatives usually blame this on "Leftist" ideology. But more often it's really "Leftist" methodology--a dialectic approach to problem solving--that leads to chaos and resentment. Instead of framing a vision for what might be achieved, and carefully working out the problems ahead of execution (as did the Constitutional Convention of 1787), the dialectic method is often to just throw something out there that's radically different, and out of the resultant chaos believe that a workable solution--a synthesis of the old and new--will magically emerge over time.

 

[SpookyAction]

I am ready for the demise of the NCAA, but I don't see how sport-wide rules will be enforced. The SEC isn't up to it, without changes.
Institutions and states are not going to self-manage.
Whatever is put in place will be touted as "not the NCAA", but if it has teeth, it will become the NCAA over time, because the admin will have an agenda of some kind.

 

[GrayWaterCanine]

I am ready for the demise of the NCAA, but I don't see how sport-wide rules will be enforced. The SEC isn't up to it, without changes.
Institutions and states are not going to self-manage.
Whatever is put in place will be touted as "not the NCAA", but if it has teeth, it will become the NCAA over time, because the admin will have an agenda of some kind.

I would think any organization that earns the least bit of respect would surpass the NCAA.

 

[GAVol]

There are some issues here that nobody seems to think about. The NCAA is governed by the member institutions, not various state laws, etc. The member institutions are a voluntary part of the NCAA. They have all agreed to follow a set of rules set forth in the bylaws. SO... the NCAA can either revise bylaws to accommodate, OR the can come back and say "fine"... you're no longer a part of the NCAA. Pretty simple. This is why I think the NCAA will be dissolved sooner rather than later. A new, broader reaching, type of governing body will be formed mainly for oversight, etc. The players unions are coming.

Crazy thing is that the NCAA and the Presidents caused all of this with draconian rules against player compensation of any sort while whistling and looking the other way as they made bank on rights fees.

 

[wmcovol]

I believe the courts will rule the NCAA does have control over eligibility of their events. I don’t think states have jurisdiction over NCAA events. This is a federal case, not a state case. I suspect it will go to the SCOTUS. If the NCAA can’t control eligibility, they have absolutely no purpose. Texas schools can elect to participate in the NCAA or not but I don’t think they can control the entire NCAA.

 

[davethevol]

I am ready for the demise of the NCAA, but I don't see how sport-wide rules will be enforced. The SEC isn't up to it, without changes.
Institutions and states are not going to self-manage.
Whatever is put in place will be touted as "not the NCAA", but if it has teeth, it will become the NCAA over time, because the admin will have an agenda of some kind.

I wonder if the SEC will take over and absorb the NCAA, or aspects of it. We all know there are all sorts of plannings going on right now behind the scenes regarding the new super conferences, and I don’t imagine those will be able to co-exist with the NCAA.

 

[SpookyAction]

I wonder if the SEC will take over and absorb the NCAA, or aspects of it. We all know there are all sorts of plannings going on right now behind the scenes regarding the new super conferences, and I don’t imagine those will be able to co-exist with the NCAA.

I can't really conceive what it will look like.

 

[BowlBrother85]

A&M is telling the NCAA, they don't care about their rules, they are following state law. TX state law also says they can't be sanctioned, if they are complying with the state's NIL guidelines.

This could get interesting.

Texas has a state law which says that the NCAA can't sanction their member institutions for breaking rules? That seems legally dubious.

 

[woodpusher]

If I were a university, I would want plausible deniability. I would think women's sports would accuse me of not trying hard enough to get them NIL. I come back and say, "I've funded you equally with men's sports -- it's the boosters' decision to pay NIL or not."

 

[volfanhill]

If I were a university, I would want plausible deniability. I would think women's sports would accuse me of not trying hard enough to get them NIL. I come back and say, "I've funded you equally with men's sports -- it's the boosters' decision to pay NIL or not."

They don't need to. Some of the highest paid NIL athletes are women.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

They don't need to. Some of the highest paid NIL athletes are women.

True but this is where I think NIL treads dangerous waters. The hottest female college athletes are getting the biggest NIL deals, not the best.

 

[BowlBrother85]

True but this is where I think NIL treads dangerous waters. The hottest female college athletes are getting the biggest NIL deals, not the best.

I agree with your assessment, but I wouldn't say it's "dangerous waters." It's familiar waters. Two of the most prolific female endorsers of the last 25 years were Danica Patrick and Anna Kournikova. Kournikova never won a professional tennis tournament. I think Patrick won 1 race.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

I agree with your assessment, but I wouldn't say it's "dangerous waters." It's familiar waters. Two of the most prolific female endorsers of the last 25 years were Danica Patrick and Anna Kournikova. Kournikova never won a professional tennis tournament. I think Patrick won 1 race.

Yeah good point. But times are definitely different today than they were back then. Plus these are college kids, not pro athletes.