Absolute Insanity!

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OrangeEmpire

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Every adult in Britain should be forced to carry 'carbon ration cards', say MPs | Mail Online

Every adult should be forced to use a 'carbon ration card' when they pay for petrol, airline tickets or household energy, MPs say.
The influential Environmental Audit Committee says a personal carbon trading scheme is the best and fairest way of cutting Britain's CO2 emissions without penalising the poor.
Under the scheme, everyone would be given an annual carbon allowance to use when buying oil, gas, electricity and flights.
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I am not even going to say thoughts, this is absolute insanity!

Why in the world would the people of Britain give up their rights to the government?

This nonsense about global warming, global cooling and climate change is the new scheme by government to take control of our lives!

It is just a matter of time before this crap will be here!

Time to break out the Aks and head to the hills......

What absolute madness!
 
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It's funny how global warming hysteria has suddenly morphed into "climate change" hysteria when the facts no longer fit the flawed science.
 
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MG1968 said:
It's funny how global warming hysteria has suddenly morphed into "climate change" hysteria when the facts no longer fit the flawed science.
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Really you just have to break it down to what it is. People who support this garbage are the kids who were picked on all of their life and this is their way of getting back!

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OrangeEmpire said:
Who is in your avatar Ras?
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Some rap video model named Veronica Rodriguez...

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GAVol said:
About the time the term "Global Warming" didn't seem to quite fit the bill.
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You're not MG :p

I'm just asking..because I see global climate change being used to describe variations in climate due to human influence as early as the 70s....such as this article (you can read the abstract)

CSA

The scientific literature has always recognized there are positive (CO2) and negative (aerosols) forcings on temperature and that (anthropogenic) climate change was a useful way of describing man's impact on climate. This is not to say that the words global warming do not appear in the literature - but the appropriate description is climate change. This is not just because of the interplay between negative and positive forcings, but also because the effects can be larger than temperature, including precipitation patterns, for example. So, I fail to see this sudden about-face that is indicative of failed science.
 
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Look to Britian to see the future of the USA. The Brits are by and large a spoiled people with some kind of "guilt complex". They have been screwed up for quite some time. If things continue in th USA the way they are now, we will have people suggesting this kind of non sense here also.
 
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And the truth is? Bottom line is Americas carbon dioxide output amounts to me taking a whiz in Old Hickory Lake! It may add a little CO2 but hardly enough to account for a fraction of one degree in temperature.
 
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This crap is insanity!

You know the earth has managed to wipe out the dinosaurs and go through periods of extreme heat and an ice age.............

This crap has always gone on and some kid living in his basement in the 70's decided that man was finally the cause.

What about the last 2 billion years?

I mean really!
 
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TennTradition said:
When would you say this sudden morph occurred?
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it really started once NASA began releasing data pointing to flawed measurements and that no warming had taken place since 1998. Once it was apparent that global "warming" was no longer taking place the true believers changed their rhetoric to "climate change" and continued to blame it on human activity.

also, the whole notion of scientific "consensus" is deeply misleading.

Global Warming Petition Project
 
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When I heard about this UK "carbon card" story yesterday, the first thing I thought of was some thickly-accented Gestapo officer asking, "Ver are your papers?"
 
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KB5252 said:
And the truth is? Bottom line is Americas carbon dioxide output amounts to me taking a whiz in Old Hickory Lake! It may add a little CO2 but hardly enough to account for a fraction of one degree in temperature.
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I was actually just playing a post with inconvenient with the word truth. Seemed relevant.

All I know is that while visiting Alaska last summer it is alarming to look at glaciers and their rapid recession over the last 20 years. Is it a result of a normal natural cycle? Could be. But if we can act as a planet to save this natural beauty and habitat for my kids to see, then I'm all for it.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
I was actually just playing a post with inconvenient with the word truth. Seemed relevant.

All I know is that while visiting Alaska last summer it is alarming to look at glaciers and their rapid recession over the last 20 years. Is it a result of a normal natural cycle? Could be. But if we can act as a planet to save this natural beauty and habitat for my kids to see, then I'm all for it.
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If it is caused by humans you would be correct. If it is not we are wasting resources.
 
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MG1968 said:
it really started once NASA began releasing data pointing to flawed measurements and that no warming had taken place since 1998. Once it was apparent that global "warming" was no longer taking place the true believers changed their rhetoric to "climate change" and continued to blame it on human activity.

also, the whole notion of scientific "consensus" is deeply misleading.

Global Warming Petition Project
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I don't see how you can say that if the term has been prevalent in the literature since the 70s. Furthermore, the no warming since 1998 argument is a little silly when you look at just how hot it was that year. The moving average still showed warming, which is what people who actually want to study this (instead of just throw out the idea) use as a metric. We are cooling or near cooling right now in moving averages..but just barely....which is not unexpected. If, one we continue to warm again, temperatures do not climb to higher levels than those we have seen recently, then I think that this will be a true indication that something is wrong with the science/models.
 
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This was my favorite passage:

The idea of personal carbon trading is increasingly being promoted by environmentalists. In theory it could be used to cover all purchases - from petrol to food.
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What products/commodities would not fall under the energy umbrella? This "scheme" could be extended to cover anything and everything.
 
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