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Only 4 teams seem to matter here for our recruiting class. The quick and dirty run down:
UVA. If Al Groh is fired it could hurt us if someone ressurects the moribund program in Charlottesville and locks down the Tidewater area. In the short term, it could only help us if we get Morgan Moses who UT will lead for if Groh is fired. Morgan may be too large at almost 350 to play for us (Cregg evaluated him during the bye week). Groh is on the hot seat no matter what else happens because he lost to William and Mary to start the year. People are also tired of horrid starts after which he cares enough to coach em up to save his job.
UNC
Butch Davis now helms a team that is 4-3 but a misleading 4-3. 3 of the wins are against the Citadel, East Carolina and Georgia Southern, and they have what looked like it would be a nice victory against UConn (12-10) but now UConn is falling apart.
They are 0-3 in the conference. Farms and Leifheit are two nice 4 star OL, but we rejected Leifheit. If we could sway James Hurst before the early enrollment period we would certainly sign him.
NC State
This team is 3-4 and their best win is against Pittsburgh. Gardner Webb and Murray State are two of their wins. They lost badly to Duke...Coming up Florida State and Virginia Tech should be losses, and probably Clemson although they are a schizo team performance wise. Maryland and North Carolina are not sure wins, but even if they get both, they would not be bowl eligible. This what not what Tom O'Brien left BC for, but he has lost 9 players this season to injury.
We no longer want the attitude problem that is Fre'Shad Hunter who has been kicked off his HS team.
The key here is Robert Crisp. We would love to take him. We do not want his friend, the only remaining package I see is we may offer Mosley to get Dyer, but we would love to tell Crisp we are on the way and NC State is not. Even in a weaker conference, when you look at that class, I think the fact that TN is in a whole different world recruiting wise and NFL coaching wise should be clear to big Rob.
Florida State
It is not so much who FSU has now who we want as who FSU was leading for who we want.
Bobby Bowden has seen members of the Board of Trustees asking him to step down!
They are at 3-4 with 1 conference win. They are going to likely reach 6 wins, but that is enough to signal serious trouble for their recruiting. We have already seen the impact.
We got Corey Miller.
Lamarcus Joyner is the guy we want most who everyone thought was headed to FSU.
Christian Green is a guy we have a great shot with, who if FSU was having a different year we might fade on.
The struggles of FSU benefit the Gators in their recruitment of Demar Dorsey, Matt Elam, Jordan Haden and Jaylen Watkins, but that also has led to a crowded DB class and that may help us with Elam (although that is faint hope for me).
Another couple guys FSU struggles help us with include:
Mitchell, Riggs, Christian Jones,
D Robinson
Jeff Luc
Chaz Green
Corey Lemonier
John Cullen
Kenny Shaw
CJ Mosley
As you can see, FSU being down from the ACC directly impacts our recruiting far more than any other school. It benefits us but it also benefits our rivals like UF and Alabama who are going after those same players.
UVA. If Al Groh is fired it could hurt us if someone ressurects the moribund program in Charlottesville and locks down the Tidewater area. In the short term, it could only help us if we get Morgan Moses who UT will lead for if Groh is fired. Morgan may be too large at almost 350 to play for us (Cregg evaluated him during the bye week). Groh is on the hot seat no matter what else happens because he lost to William and Mary to start the year. People are also tired of horrid starts after which he cares enough to coach em up to save his job.
UNC
Butch Davis now helms a team that is 4-3 but a misleading 4-3. 3 of the wins are against the Citadel, East Carolina and Georgia Southern, and they have what looked like it would be a nice victory against UConn (12-10) but now UConn is falling apart.
They are 0-3 in the conference. Farms and Leifheit are two nice 4 star OL, but we rejected Leifheit. If we could sway James Hurst before the early enrollment period we would certainly sign him.
NC State
This team is 3-4 and their best win is against Pittsburgh. Gardner Webb and Murray State are two of their wins. They lost badly to Duke...Coming up Florida State and Virginia Tech should be losses, and probably Clemson although they are a schizo team performance wise. Maryland and North Carolina are not sure wins, but even if they get both, they would not be bowl eligible. This what not what Tom O'Brien left BC for, but he has lost 9 players this season to injury.
We no longer want the attitude problem that is Fre'Shad Hunter who has been kicked off his HS team.
The key here is Robert Crisp. We would love to take him. We do not want his friend, the only remaining package I see is we may offer Mosley to get Dyer, but we would love to tell Crisp we are on the way and NC State is not. Even in a weaker conference, when you look at that class, I think the fact that TN is in a whole different world recruiting wise and NFL coaching wise should be clear to big Rob.
Florida State
It is not so much who FSU has now who we want as who FSU was leading for who we want.
Bobby Bowden has seen members of the Board of Trustees asking him to step down!
They are at 3-4 with 1 conference win. They are going to likely reach 6 wins, but that is enough to signal serious trouble for their recruiting. We have already seen the impact.
We got Corey Miller.
Lamarcus Joyner is the guy we want most who everyone thought was headed to FSU.
Christian Green is a guy we have a great shot with, who if FSU was having a different year we might fade on.
The struggles of FSU benefit the Gators in their recruitment of Demar Dorsey, Matt Elam, Jordan Haden and Jaylen Watkins, but that also has led to a crowded DB class and that may help us with Elam (although that is faint hope for me).
Another couple guys FSU struggles help us with include:
Mitchell, Riggs, Christian Jones,
D Robinson
Jeff Luc
Chaz Green
Corey Lemonier
John Cullen
Kenny Shaw
CJ Mosley
As you can see, FSU being down from the ACC directly impacts our recruiting far more than any other school. It benefits us but it also benefits our rivals like UF and Alabama who are going after those same players.
