ACC GOR Meant Nothing - Still Could Disintegrate

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After the ACC schools signed a Grant of Rights and all of the talk of the ACC getting it's own network, all of the fans in the ACC learn that the presumed network is merely a glorified Jefferson Pilot game of the week with Raycom Sports, whose big wig is the son of ACC President John Swofford. ESPN has no interest in doing a "look in" at the current ACC deal, which includes some schools that are bolting the ACC for the Big Ten and the ACC can't get a release from Raycom's ownership of rights. They are stuck until 2027.

The ACC may yet disintegrate before 2027. There is talk that the schools could bring a lawsuit against the ACC charging the league President with collusion.

ACC network may stall over rights issues - SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal | SportsBusiness Daily Global
 
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How's that any different than the Big 12's GOR supposedly making the league safe/solid?

Besides, I thought the point was that yes there could be loopholes, but that no individual school or conference is going to want to have to invest, especially financially, into a very length battle in the court rooms just over a single school.

But these things were never iron walls...also wasn't the whole "grant of rights means ACC network and ESPN money" just a rumor started on the Internet after the GOR?

Had the ACC or the member schools even suggested that such a thing was an end goal/plan?
 
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(Actual questions; not angry rebuttals or accusations)


Also, the article:

Don’t expect an ACC-branded TV channel to be launched any time soon.

The biggest problem so far is a rights issue. ESPN needs to control the conference’s syndicated rights to launch a channel. But those rights are tied up until 2027 through deals with Raycom and Fox Sports Net.

“There’s no way an ACC network co-exists with a syndicated model,” said Chris Bevilacqua, a media consultant who worked with the Pac-12 to form a league network. “They’re going to have to get those rights back.”

Just a couple of weeks after the ACC renegotiated its ESPN deal and all 15 schools agreed to grant their media rights to the conference, giving the league the kind of long-term security that will theoretically keep it together, a conference network became a hot topic.

But last week’s annual spring meetings at Amelia Island, Fla., served as a reminder that it’s going to be a long and winding path to get to a channel. There was much more discussion about the prospects for a channel outside the meeting rooms than there was inside, say sources who attended the meetings.


ACC network may stall over rights issues

By Michael Smith & John Ourand, Staff Writers

Published May 20, 2013

Don’t expect an ACC-branded TV channel to be launched any time soon.

The biggest problem so far is a rights issue. ESPN needs to control the conference’s syndicated rights to launch a channel. But those rights are tied up until 2027 through deals with Raycom and Fox Sports Net.

“There’s no way an ACC network co-exists with a syndicated model,” said Chris Bevilacqua, a media consultant who worked with the Pac-12 to form a league network. “They’re going to have to get those rights back.”

Just a couple of weeks after the ACC renegotiated its ESPN deal and all 15 schools agreed to grant their media rights to the conference, giving the league the kind of long-term security that will theoretically keep it together, a conference network became a hot topic.

But last week’s annual spring meetings at Amelia Island, Fla., served as a reminder that it’s going to be a long and winding path to get to a channel. There was much more discussion about the prospects for a channel outside the meeting rooms than there was inside, say sources who attended the meetings.


Raycom holds the rights to live ACC football and basketball games, and sublicensed the rights of some to Fox.
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With subjects like the future of the men’s basketball tournament dominating conversation, the channel hardly came up, even though ESPN executives Burke Magnus and Dan Margulis attended the meetings, as they typically do.

The week before, ESPN and Raycom engaged in meetings at the Charlotte offices of ESPN Regional Television, but those talks centered on how to program new member Notre Dame, not how to work together on a channel.

Such a league-branded channel is considered vital to the conference’s financial future. The Big Ten, Pac-12 and SEC, beginning next year, all have channels dedicated to their leagues.

But the only commitment ESPN has given the ACC is that it will discuss the benefits of launching a channel. Industry insiders say there is not a rush to put together an ACC channel, and that it likely would be 2016 or 2017 before one would launch, if then.

If, in three to four years, ESPN decides an ACC channel is not financially viable, sources say there will still be financial benefits to the ACC.

The league’s current media rights contract is valued at $260 million a year through 2027, or about $18 million per school on an average annual basis across 14 schools. Notre Dame’s cut is much smaller because the Irish have their own football deal with NBC.

ESPN, if it says no to a channel, would increase its compensation to the ACC, pushing the per-school average to close to $20 million.

The main roadblock is rights. When it signed its ACC deal in 2010, ESPN and Charlotte-based Raycom Sports cut a deal that grants Raycom the ACC’s digital and corporate sponsorship rights, plus a heavy dose of live football and basketball games. Through a sublicensing agreement, Raycom owns the rights to 31 live football games and 60 live men’s basketball games.

Even if the conference is able to buy back those rights from Raycom, a second roadblock remains. Raycom sublicensed 17 of those football games and 25 of those basketball games to Fox, which carries the games on its regional sports networks throughout the ACC footprint. Live local sports programming is important to Fox’s RSNs, and they are not likely to give up those games cheaply.

The games that stay with Raycom make up the ACC’s long-running syndicated package that is distributed to more than 50 million households on over-the-air networks, and reaches 25 of the top 50 U.S. TV markets.

Those deals extend through 2027.

It’s unlikely that ESPN will try to launch a channel without those rights. ESPN brought all of those rights — TV, digital, sponsorship — together as it formed the SEC Network, which launches in August 2014.

“I just wonder if the ACC is a little late to the party,” Bevilacqua said. “They had the opportunity to look at this several years ago and decided not to pursue it, when in fact, that was the more appropriate window. A lot has happened since then, and a lot of other programming services have popped up. There’s even more headwind out there now that makes launching a network not impossible, but certainly harder to do.”

The ACC has made the case that its league is perfectly suited for a channel. It cites figures that show the ACC has more TV households in its footprint, 43 million, than any other conference.

Duke Athletic Director Kevin White, North Carolina AD Bubba Cunningham and Clemson AD Dan Radakovich form the ACC’s TV subcommittee.
 
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The GOR is only a show of solidarity. If the SEC, Big XII, and Big 10 were to "agree" on which ACC schools each wants, then the conference will be toast and the GOR will be null and void.

Those conferences could all make it to 16 by poaching ACC members, and the scraps left over couldn't do anything about it.
 
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The GOR is only a show of solidarity. If the SEC, Big XII, and Big 10 were to "agree" on which ACC schools each wants, then the conference will be toast and the GOR will be null and void.

Those conferences could all make it to 16 by poaching ACC members, and the scraps left over couldn't do anything about it.

Wouldn't that be asking a lot for those 3 conferences to do something...planned out together like that?
 
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It would be difficult for the ACC to hold up and rob departing schools with any kind of poison pill for departing the conference in light of this. The entire point about the Grant of Rights was to form a ACC Network and that can not happen for another 14 years.
 
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It would be difficult for the ACC to hold up and rob departing schools with any kind of poison pill for departing the conference in light of this. The entire point about the Grant of Rights was to form a ACC Network and that can not happen for another 14 years.

Really? Because in the other conference's cases (Big 12 for instance), it was to make the schools kind of worthless to a new conference; that any money earned by the leaving school's (if I'm right) 3rd tier rights would revert back to the previous conference, per the previous agreement, for that agreed/allotted amount of time.

Buying back 3rd tier rights to form a network seems like a different beast; the SEC didn't sign a grant of rights in order to buy back teams' third tier rights and form the SEC Network, did they?



(Also, on a side note, the article seems to say that if ESPN gave up on trying to form a network for the league, while maybe or maybe not any look-in clause, they would have to up the payment per school to $20 mill per each school.....or that by any means are any talks between ESPN and Raycom over such happened other than relative towards programming Notre Dame; the ACC seems not to have been talking about doing such either based on the article posted)
 
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Wouldn't that be asking a lot for those 3 conferences to do something...planned out together like that?

I say "agree" with a bit of sarcasm intended.

My point is that by poaching 10 of the 14 ACC schools, all three conferences could get to 16, which the SEC and Big 10 clearly desire to do, and the Big XII would be stupid not to.

Now, there is a good chance that the all three conference desire UNC and Virginia to one degree or another. So it would come down to which conference makes the better offer.

But I could very easily see a scenario like this:

SEC gets Virginia Tech and North Carolina
Big 10 gets Virginia and Boston College
Big XII gets FSU, Miami, Georgia Tech, Clemson, NC State, and Louisville.

Duke sticks its football team in Conference USA or the AAC, and all its Olympic sports join the New Big East.

Pitt, Syracuse, and Wake Forest get screwed unless the Big 10 can convince Notre Dame to join in all sports, in which case Boston College or Syracuse joins the Big XII.

Switch those schools around in whatever way makes sense to you. No matter who goes where, there are enough votes to disband the ACC and the grant of rights disappears.
 
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Notre Dame will never join the Big Ten. At this point it's a matter of pride I think. They have always though of the Big Ten as beneath them. Yes, yes, I understand that everyone around here thinks the B1G are the butthole of sports, but honestly it hasn't always been like that. It's always been laughable to me, since Notre Dame with the lone exception of last year, and even that is debatable after their no show at the NC game, hasn't been relevant for nearly two decades now. However, because of going out of their way to snub the Big Ten, I don't think they'd want to lose face and join them now.
 

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