Amazon Fire Phone

#4
#4
It's more for prime members. I do t think they are targeting the masses. Bezos even said Kindle Fire customers arent looking for a ton of bells and whistles.

That said, $199 is steep for a limited device when you can get a top Android or iphone for that.
 
#5
#5
Google access is the best thing going for Android devices, and what bumps them above the iPhone, IMO. Don't see the draw in the Amazon product.
 
#6
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
It's more for prime members. I do t think they are targeting the masses. Bezos even said Kindle Fire customers arent looking for a ton of bells and whistles.

That said, $199 is steep for a limited device when you can get a top Android or iphone for that.
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Yep. They should've followed the Google rout with the Nexus and made it like $349-399 unlocked. People aren't going to pay $199 and lock into another contract for something that Android and Apple can offer with way more features.
 
#8
#8
Huge hill in front of the Fire. Only on ATT, only access to amazon's store, last year's hardware at this year's prices, less than optimal screen resolution. It's a first stab and they are keeping it relatively small.

I just don't see paying that much for a Kindle phone. I'm not the biggest fan of Amazon's FireOS either.

But, I do want to see one and the screen tech. The 3D effect sounds pretty slick.
 
#9
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milohimself said:
I'm not. Smartphone without App Store/google play access = worthless
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It does have the Amazon Appstore. Granted Amazon Appstore only has about 75,000 apps compared to Google Play with 600,000 apps. I think once this phone gets going the Amazon Appstore will grow pretty quickly. Amazon also just opened their Appstore up to 200 other countries so that will add to it greatly.

CNET just wrote a decent preliminary review on the phone.
Apps on the Amazon Fire Phone: What you need to know - CNET
 
#10
#10
I think the 600 thousand apps number is a little misleading when you consider there are probably 10,000 user-created apps that show women shaking their asses.
 
#11
#11
Still stands that mobile apps need Google Play or App Store access for any hope of success at the moment.

Looks like Amazon is stepping up to the plate along with Samsung to try and pull it off. Samsung stands the better chance in the long run, but I don't see either cutting the Google cord and pulling it off any time soon.

As somebody mentioned, if this were something like a $300 GSM unlocked option, it would be worth a look, but damn sure not for $650. This thing is going to fall flat on its face.
 
#12
#12
milohimself said:
Still stands that mobile apps need Google Play or App Store access for any hope of success at the moment.

Looks like Amazon is stepping up to the plate along with Samsung to try and pull it off. Samsung stands the better chance in the long run, but I don't see either cutting the Google cord and pulling it off any time soon.

As somebody mentioned, if this were something like a $300 GSM unlocked option, it would be worth a look, but damn sure not for $650. This thing is going to fall flat on its face.
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Amazon has a leg up on Samsung with a built in user base for Amazon Prime. They already offer a lot of streaming content that Samsung is pretty far behind on.

I doubt anyone will pay full price for this though. $199 still seems high though.
 
#13
#13
burntorangeVOLffle said:
Amazon has a leg up on Samsung with a built in user base for Amazon Prime. They already offer a lot of streaming content that Samsung is pretty far behind on.

I doubt anyone will pay full price for this though. $199 still seems high though.
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Compared to what? The iPhone 5 or the Galaxy S5?
 
#18
#18
coug said:
My argument is that the top two selling devices(iphone/galaxy) are 3 times as much as that one is.
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If you're looking at the $199, I'm pretty sure that's the subsidized price with a new contract.
 
#19
#19
Freak said:
If you're looking at the $199, I'm pretty sure that's the subsidized price with a new contract.
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It is. Full price is $599 and $649 I think.

Another reason price is mentioned is the actual hardware. It's using a Snapdragon 800 with a 4.7" 720p screen. Not exactly bleeding edge technology like the S5, G3, etc.
 
#20
#20
When you talk about there app store not being as high as the others one thing to consider is that, unlike windows phones, amazon started with the most wanted apps first(facebook, twitter, instagram, etc). So even though they won't have as many to begin with they will have the ones you want.

I'll still be taking the wait and see approach. I work for AT&T so I'm sure I'll get some good feedback once released.
 
#22
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coug said:
What specifically are you saying is limited about the phone in comparing it to S5/5S?
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App Store mostly. It's completely closed to the Amazon ecosystem. Even more so than iphone is to Apple's. As others have pointed out, hardware is a gen behind too. For that, the price point of $199 (with contract) is a tad high. It's not going to convert anyone from iPhone or a top tier Android over.

If they don't want to target those that are looking for more bells and whistles thats fine, but they should price accordingly.

Also consider that Amazon Kindle, cloud music, instant video players work on both iPhone and Android. So what is this Amazon phone really bringing to the table (other than being able to make purchases inside the apps).
 
#24
#24
I discovered last night that the new Prime music streaming service is not even possible to download on a Kindle fire tablet. I doubt I would get their phone.

I'm so close to selling it but it was a gift.
 
#25
#25
I use my kindle fire and my android smart phone daily. I have yet to find an app that I want for the smart phone that isn't also available in the amazon app store. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, but I have apps for everything from note taking to a variety of emergency response and hazmat stuff that are on both. When I bought the kindle fire, I thought I might find those limitations, but so far I'm happy with the selection that Amazon provides.
 
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