Anyone know the latest news on Johnathon Crompton Shoulder surgery?

[WA_Vol]

This is the only info I could find on the net, dated August 16th. Anybody have anything more recent? Supposedly he should be ready to begin thowing now.


"Freshman quarterback Jonathan Crompton is expected to begin throwing in December or January and be 100 percent by spring practice following shoulder surgery on his throwing arm last week.

The procedure to reattach the labrum was successful as doctors used five anchors to attach the torn cartilage, sources said. No further damage was found in the right, throwing shoulder. The tendons, ligaments and rotator cuff were intact and no reconstruction was needed.

Dr. Richard Jones of Southeastern Sports Medicine in Asheville, N.C., performed the procedure. Jones oversaw Crompton as well as other Tuscola High School athletes. "

 

[WA_Vol]

According to this description, it should fully heal after surgery.

http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/fact/thr_report....tegory=Shoulder

Shoulder Joint Tear (Glenoid Labrum Tear)

Injuries to the tissue rim surrounding the shoulder socket can occur from acute trauma or repetitive shoulder motion. Examples of traumatic injury include: throwing athletes or weightlifters can experience tears due to repetitive shoulder motion.

Signs and symptoms: a Sense of instability in the shoulder, Decreased range of motion, Loss of strength

Treatment

During the surgery, the doctor will examine the rim and the biceps tendon. If the injury is confined to the rim itself, without involving the tendon, the shoulder is still stable. The surgeon will remove the torn flap and correct any other associated problems. If the tear extends into the biceps tendon or if the tendon is detached, the result is an unstable joint. The surgeon will need to repair and reattach the tendon using absorbable tacks, wires or sutures.

Tears below the middle of the socket are also associated with shoulder instability. The surgeon will reattach the ligament and tighten the shoulder socket by folding over and "pleating" the tissues.

Rehabilitation

After surgery, you will need to keep your shoulder in a sling for three to four weeks. Your physician will also prescribe gentle, passive, pain-free range-of-motion exercises. When the sling is removed, you will need to do motion and flexibility exercises and gradually start to strengthen your biceps. Athletes can usually begin doing sports-specific exercises after six weeks, although it will be three to four months before the shoulder is fully healed.

 

[rockydoc]

Right,with this injury there should be a complete recovery. But so should have Ainges's. I would have felt better in Dr Jim Andrews at Alabama Sports Clinic in B'ham had performed the surgery but I'm sure he had a fine orthopedic surgeon in Ashville.

 

[wilburnVol]

According to this description, it should fully heal after surgery.

If he was a pitcher, this would, 95 of 100 times, be career ending.

"Labrum tears" is like saying "bad knee". The possibilities once the surgery was started are dozens; removal of the cartilage, repair/suture, cutting/trimming. Is there bone on bone? Is there sufficient joint lubrication?

All labrum tear surgeries are successful. Name me the last time an athlete had an unsuccesful surgery?

Proof is in the pudding; Mustain hovering around is not a good sign.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Proof is in the pudding; Mustain hovering around is not a good sign.

Not a good sign for who? I want the Vols to contend for the East ASAP, then the SEC, then the NC. I don't think anyone on the "payroll" is capable of shouldering (pun intended) that burden right now. We need new blood.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I don't think anyone on the "payroll" is capable of shouldering (pun intended) that burden right now. We need new blood.

Crazy. You haven't seen Crompton throw even one pass in a Tennessee uni, and you've already written him off? When we signed him, he was the most celebrated prospect since Manning.

Give the kid a break. Best wishes to JC for a speedy recovery and a successful spring rehab as he learns to put his knowledge of the offense to use.

 

[WA_Vol]

If he was a pitcher, this would, 95 of 100 times, be career ending.

"Labrum tears" is like saying "bad knee". The possibilities once the surgery was started are dozens; removal of the cartilage, repair/suture, cutting/trimming. Is there bone on bone? Is there sufficient joint lubrication?

All labrum tear surgeries are successful. Name me the last time an athlete had an unsuccesful surgery?

Proof is in the pudding; Mustain hovering around is not a good sign.

what was everyone's opinion of this statement:

"doctors used five anchors to attach the torn cartilage, sources said. No further damage was found in the right, throwing shoulder. The tendons, ligaments and rotator cuff were intact and no reconstruction was needed. "


I thought that sounded pretty promising. No rotator cuff, tendon, or ligament reconstruction, just reattach the torn cartlidge.

 

[VOLracerx]

having just gone through the same thing - I wouldn't think much of it. It has been a little painful in hgetting the motion back but with the amount of attention he would get from the trianing staff I would think it wil be no big deal. The only thing I was told was to not rush it and be careful - I got 3 anchors - not five so there might be a little concern on the toughness of the fix but they have been doing this for a long time and have pretty much perfected the procedure.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

What was the procedure that EA had? I know that different people recover differently due to a number of factors. It has been pointed out that we have not seen JC throw so maybe everything will work out with him. Also, while I personally do not want to see EA start another game at UT, I understand that he will be allowed to compete for the position like everyone. If EA earns it then I will have to support him next season and let bygones be bygones. However, the reason I have been on the Mustain bandwagon is that I can envision a scenario where EA shows little or no improvement and JC is not fully healed or exaccerbates his prior injury and is unavailable. Then what do we do? I know people are going to say that even if we get Mustain the coaches would want to red shirt him and that is probably true. But what is Alabama going to do with him if they get him? Do you think Shula will redshirt him? You can say, well it's different because Bama has immediate need and no other choice but I disagree. Either you are ready to start as an SEC QB or you are not. If Mustain is good enough to start for Bama he is good enough to start for UT. We should go after him with everything we have and give him a fair shot at the starter's job next year.

 

[BHAMVOLFAN]

I hate to ruin this thread, but his mom says his shoulder is strong and he'll begin throwing next week. The doctors have been overly precautious with Jon. They expect him to return to 100% within 3-4 months and he should begin to add additional strength as time goes by.

 

[CSpindizzy]

I hope he not only recovers but is still effective, if not better than before. But for our future's sake we cannot rely on hope. Many athletes have had major surgery only to come back a shell of their former selves. Recovery is mental as much as it is physical. I'd like to hope that efforts to get Mustain will still go full force and will not be based on Crompton in any way. This is not a slight against Crompton but we have a team to worry about not just an individual.

 

[wilburnVol]

Not a good sign for who? I want the Vols to contend for the East ASAP, then the SEC, then the NC. I don't think anyone on the "payroll" is capable of shouldering (pun intended) that burden right now. We need new blood.

Not a good sign for UT. Mustain's interest in lieu of Crompton's surgery could be telling abut his recovery prospects.

 

[wilburnVol]

I hate to ruin this thread, but his mom says his shoulder is strong and he'll begin throwing next week. The doctors have been overly precautious with Jon. They expect him to return to 100% within 3-4 months and he should begin to add additional strength as time goes by.

That's good news but it is only hurdle number one. Depending on the surgery, the procedure(s) themselves (see earlier post), when repetitive use set in, and the stability of the humeral-scapular joit is tested in physical play, there is no telling until then.

 

[BHAMVOLFAN]

But for our future's sake we cannot rely on hope.

Hope is what we do every time we sign a kid. Hope is what we do everytime we send a kid onto the field. The whole idea of competitive sports is based on hope. Mustain's recruitment has nothing to do with Crompton's recovery or inside knowlege that his shoulder will not recover. All indicators from the medical staff are that he will be as good as ever. Trying to read something into the recruitment of Mustain being relative to JC's injury is nuts. Why do many feel the need to create a crisis?

 

[BHAMVOLFAN]

That's good news but it is only hurdle number one. Depending on the surgery, the procedure(s) themselves (see earlier post), when repetitive use set in, and the stability of the humeral-scapular joit is tested in physical play, there is no telling until then.

I've had this injury. It happened many years ago in baseball. Recovery was not that big a deal nor as long as has been stated above. Back then, the surgical techniques and the rehab weren't even close to the technology today. Much ado about nothing IMO.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

I've had this injury. It happened many years ago in baseball. Recovery was not that big a deal nor as long as has been stated above. Back then, the surgical techniques and the rehab weren't even close to the technology today. Much ado about nothing IMO.

I would think that with a young motivated athlete the recovery will be as quick and full as possible. There are however some people who do not heal quickly. I have dealt with alot of people who had minor surgery due to an OTJ injury and they swear up and down that their lives are ruined and they can never work again. There is a strong mental component to this.

 

[VOLracerx]

the key to this injusry is the training staff that he has to work with - most people wouldn't be able to go to rehab every day and I am sure that the staff is taking very good care of him. Since he can't practice I am sure he is rehabiing it during that time frame. I don't think this will be much of a setback for this kid - from the film I have seen this kid has no mental issues.

 

[GAVol]

from the film I have seen this kid has no mental issues.

I hope you're right . . . but how the heck could you possibly tell this from watching recruiting film??

 

[VOLracerx]

just the kids mindset and attitude - he seems to be very resilient.

 

[CSpindizzy]

Hope is what we do every time we sign a kid. Hope is what we do everytime we send a kid onto the field. The whole idea of competitive sports is based on hope. Mustain's recruitment has nothing to do with Crompton's recovery or inside knowlege that his shoulder will not recover. All indicators from the medical staff are that he will be as good as ever. Trying to read something into the recruitment of Mustain being relative to JC's injury is nuts. Why do many feel the need to create a crisis?

Either you took my comments out of context or you used my quote for a point and then elaborated more. My quote was saying that I don't want Mustain's recruitment to be based on Crompton's recovery or lack of. We are always in need of depth. The past two seasons showed us why. While I hope the major reasons these guys got injured is rectified I don't think we need to HOPE that Crompton is the answer for the next few years. These coaches aren't paid to hope. They are paid to cover all bases which means top talent and depth in all areas.

 

[CSpindizzy]

from the film I have seen this kid has no mental issues.

Famous last words about Ainge when he came in.

 

[wilburnVol]

what was everyone's opinion of this statement:

"doctors used five anchors to attach the torn cartilage, sources said. No further damage was found in the right, throwing shoulder. The tendons, ligaments and rotator cuff were intact and no reconstruction was needed. "
I thought that sounded pretty promising. No rotator cuff, tendon, or ligament reconstruction, just reattach the torn cartlidge.

First, you would have to make the assumption that the above is accurate. I don't trust public releases of private health information anymore than I trust Bush not to lie about Iraq. For arguments sake, let's accept it.

Second, remember the human throwing motion is the highest velocity limb action one can attain. The compressive forces of the humerus and its interior/exterior rotation are difficult to manage even in a healthy socket. Who knows, regardless of rehab, which has nothing to do with sport specific actions (by definition), how that repinned cartilage is going to act. Will it naturally reattach? Will it regrow together? Was it the anterior or posterior cartilage? :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:

Once again, Crompton won't know and neither will we anything about the long term stability of this joint until the long term.

 

[wilburnVol]

Hope is what we do every time we sign a kid. Hope is what we do everytime we send a kid onto the field. The whole idea of competitive sports is based on hope. Mustain's recruitment has nothing to do with Crompton's recovery or inside knowlege that his shoulder will not recover.

My comments are totally speculative just as Crompton's recovery will be. :dunno: :dunno:

:stop: Your statement regarding Mustain is being called for sources. Cite them or correct your claim. :stop:

 

[WA_Vol]

What was the procedure that EA had?

I thought EA just broke his collar bone. I was really surprised this had so much effect on his throwing motion if it did. There is a lot of speculation as you know, on if EA's problems are related to the injury, or he just is simply not a very accurate passer.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

I thought EA just broke his collar bone. I was really surprised this had so much effect on his throwing motion if it did. There is a lot of speculation as you know, on if EA's problems are related to the injury, or he just is simply not a very accurate passer.

I know EA had a spearated shoulder. I'm not really sure how it was treated. Probably with PT?