Arkansas fixing to make a splash hire!!! (Butch Jones)

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Butch is a spash hire alright.

Sort of like concrete shoes on a Arkansas football coach at Mafia Swim party in the Ozarks!
 
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Well Butch has an entire body of work on "lessons learned and what not to do!"

I bet half the Alabama starters transfer with him!
 
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gisman said:
His biggest failure to me was player development and strength and conditioning. He got the players needed to win here, but they didn't get better or stronger and got hurt all the time. Once he fired Lawson it was the beginning of the end.

Coaches look a ton better when they have the dudes necessary to play that are ready to play. Pruitt is doing this and it is noticeable.
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He couldn't recruit OL, and couldn't develop anyone--whether as players or as physical specimens. It sounded as though he also had some integrity issues, so couldn't keep the locker room.
 
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Doctrippin said:
What really happened with Taggart? How do you fire a guy in year 2 before the season is even over?
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Honestly I think there is more been going on in Tallahassee than has been revealed. From 2012-2016 Florida State was a powerhouse. That includes 2 BCS bowls which includes winning the 2013 BCS, three New Years 6 games from 2014-2016 which includes a semi-final berth in 2014. 2017 rolls along and suddenly they have turned to garbage. It is so bad that they had to make up a game in order to get bowl eligible. I know Francois getting injured probably contributed a little bit to their woes but you would think it would not have been this bad. As if 2017 could not get weirder, it does when Jimbo Fisher announces that he is leaving Florida State. Had it been for the NFL it would have made sense, instead he was leaving for Texas A&M. Not only did he leave but he left a mess.

Taggart comes in and rather than being given a chance he is shown the door. I am curious to see what unfolds next for Florida State. If they snag a big name coach (i.e. Meyer) then I can understand firing Taggart. However if it is a lackluster hire then it will further my suspicions about something going on at FSU.
 
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Crash1984 said:
Honestly I think there is more been going on in Tallahassee than has been revealed. From 2012-2016 Florida State was a powerhouse. That includes 2 BCS bowls which includes winning the 2013 BCS, three New Years 6 games from 2014-2016 which includes a semi-final berth in 2014. 2017 rolls along and suddenly they have turned to garbage. It is so bad that they had to make up a game in order to get bowl eligible. I know Francois getting injured probably contributed a little bit to their woes but you would think it would not have been this bad. As if 2017 could not get weirder, it does when Jimbo Fisher announces that he is leaving Florida State. Had it been for the NFL it would have made sense, instead he was leaving for Texas A&M. Not only did he leave but he left a mess.

Taggart comes in and rather than being given a chance he is shown the door. I am curious to see what unfolds next for Florida State. If they snag a big name coach (i.e. Meyer) then I can understand firing Taggart. However if it is a lackluster hire then it will further my suspicions about something going on at FSU.
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It will be a lackluster hire and their facilities are below par. No name is going in to the dumpster fire FSU has become. They're so bad there's no where to go but up and a no name can succeed. The school and location recruits itself for top flight players. Jimbo at T A&M has to start doing something after this year as that school does not tolerate mediocrity and fires coaches et will as well. If I'm USC and Meyer isn't coming I go backdoor and pickup Jimbo from the Aggies on the low.
 
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Remy said:
It will be a lackluster hire and their facilities are below par. No name is going in to the dumpster fire FSU has become. They're so bad there's no where to go but up and a no name can succeed. The school and location recruits itself for top flight players. Jimbo at T A&M has to start doing something after this year as that school does not tolerate mediocrity and fires coaches et will as well. If I'm USC and Meyer isn't coming I go backdoor and pickup Jimbo from the Aggies on the low.
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FSU isn't the dumpster fire everyone thinks it is. It's bad, but not that bad. Loads of talent and a quick fix like UF.
 
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Butch had Dobbs. After Dobbs we all know what happened. I wish Butch would get the Arkie job so we could stop paying his stupid azz.
 
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For all the Lyle-hate, I think those of you wishing him the worst will be surprised. I think he learned from Saban so won't recruit undersized linemen and RBs. I don't know if he'll win at Arky, being the SECw and all. But he might have a decent season now and then before he either leaves or they dump him. In the end, I think he'll wind up at the UMass or William & Mary.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
Hey I don't care to what poor school he goes to, I just hope he makes $4 million and year and gets off our payroll.
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Right, I agree with you, but think. Why pay him much? Offer maybe $250,000/year; Tennessee has to pay the difference; if he’s successful when the Tennessee pay-out ends, raise his salary and keep him; if he’s not successful at that time, let him go with very little up front or continuing costs to Arkansas. Also, during that time, Arkansas could be looking for and recruiting another coach to come there. Could be used as a “win/win” situation....maybe not wins on the field, but monetarily and job search a good way for them to proceed.

Sounds far fetched, but I’ve seen farther!
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
For all the Lyle-hate, I think those of you wishing him the worst will be surprised. I think he learned from Saban so won't recruit undersized linemen and RBs. I don't know if he'll win at Arky, being the SECw and all. But he might have a decent season now and then before he either leaves or they dump him. In the end, I think he'll wind up at the UMass or William & Mary.
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I could see him as a future head coach somewhere like Appalachian State or Georgia Southern when either one of them may be looking for another head football coach
 
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