Arkansas playing for NC, potentially beating LSU, Florida

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After this weekend, Auburn, Texas, Cal, and Louisville all losing and out of the NC picture. And after Florida looking terrible against SC, whats the chances of Arkansas beating LSU and Florida and playing for an NC?

Everyone was talking about UT being the turn around team in the conference this year, I think that has to go to Arkansas now.
 
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After this weekend, Auburn, Texas, Cal, and Louisville all losing and out of the NC picture. And after Florida looking terrible against SC, whats the chances of Arkansas beating LSU and Florida and playing for an NC?

Everyone was talking about UT being the turn around team in the conference this year, I think that has to go to Arkansas now.

Conference-wise, UT really hasn't done that much.
 
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After this weekend, Auburn, Texas, Cal, and Louisville all losing and out of the NC picture. And after Florida looking terrible against SC, whats the chances of Arkansas beating LSU and Florida and playing for an NC?

Everyone was talking about UT being the turn around team in the conference this year, I think that has to go to Arkansas now.

I agree. They were worse than us. 4-7
 
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USC has to lose for Arky to make it. If Arky wins out, USC beats ND and Cal beats USC then Arky might make it.
 
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I think that if N.D. and USC both loose, they will pick the loser of the Ohio St. vs. Michigan game over Arkansas. A lot of the West Coast voters will not forget the drubbing USC put on Arkansas.
 
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I think that if N.D. and USC both loose, they will pick the loser of the Ohio St. vs. Michigan game over Arkansas. A lot of the West Coast voters will not forget the drubbing USC put on Arkansas.

Yeah... 50+ points doesn't leave the mind easily... especially since, I'm assuming, that's the most USC has scored all year.
 
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I think that if N.D. and USC both loose, they will pick the loser of the Ohio St. vs. Michigan game over Arkansas. A lot of the West Coast voters will not forget the drubbing USC put on Arkansas.

dont think so... arkansas wins out= beating then 2nd ranked auburn, 13th ranked Tennessee, Top ten LSU, top ten Florida, an ok South Carolina.

now... say Ohio St. looses that= beating a quality then 2nd ranked Texas, was ranked but not any more Iowa, and one more "quality" win... penn st(unranked).

and...say michigan looses that= beating a then 2nd ranked Notre Dame and everyone else they have played besides Ohio st WAS UNRANKED!! ONE WIN AGAINST A RANKED OPPONENT!! TALK ABOUT CUPCAKE!!

IF ARKANSAS WINS OUT THE SHOULD PLAY FOR THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. NO QUESTIONS ASKED!
 
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It's nice to dream. The way the media is hyping everything, the loser of the Ohio St.-Michigan game, if it's a nailbiter, will be a rematch for the NC.
 
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dont think so... arkansas wins out= beating then 2nd ranked auburn, 13th ranked Tennessee, Top ten LSU, top ten Florida, an ok South Carolina.

now... say Ohio St. looses that= beating a quality then 2nd ranked Texas, was ranked but not any more Iowa, and one more "quality" win... penn st(unranked).

and...say michigan looses that= beating a then 2nd ranked Notre Dame and everyone else they have played besides Ohio st WAS UNRANKED!! ONE WIN AGAINST A RANKED OPPONENT!! TALK ABOUT CUPCAKE!!

IF ARKANSAS WINS OUT THE SHOULD PLAY FOR THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. NO QUESTIONS ASKED!

If you and USC win out, it will be hard not to give it to the Trojans.
 
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ya thats true but the argument was that this guy thinks that if usc looses and even if we win out then he still thinks that the looser of ohis st/mich should get a rematch
 
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It's nice to dream. The way the media is hyping everything, the loser of the Ohio St.-Michigan game, if it's a nailbiter, will be a rematch for the NC.


thats crazy,crazy and even more crazy! they will have already decided who the better team is!
 
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I didn't say I agreed with it, but the way it's being thrown around all willy nilly, it really wouldn't surprise me at this point.

If USC and Arky win out, the pollsters are going to put USC ahead of Arky based on the earlier blowout.
 
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Right now I'd say the order will be as follows assuming that each team wins out:

1. Ohio St. if they lose to Mich they will stay #2 in the BCS unless they get blown out by the Wolverines.
2. Florida
3. USC
4. Notre Dame
5. Arky

For Arky to get there IMO you need to beat LSU and UF, hope for a BIG Ohio St. victory over Mich., hope Cal beats USC, and hope USC beats ND.
 
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Right now I'd say the order will be as follows assuming that each team wins out:

1. Ohio St. if they lose to Mich they will stay #2 in the BCS unless they get blown out by the Wolverines.
2. Florida
3. USC
4. Notre Dame
5. Arky

For Arky to get there IMO you need to beat LSU and UF, hope for a BIG Ohio St. victory over Mich., hope Cal beats USC, and hope USC beats ND.
The loser of USC/Notre Dame will be a two-loss team and out of the hunt. So really, four teams. Unless all these teams manage to lose more games, then I doubt the national title rematch will occur.

I generally agree with your list, though. This is how I think it will shake out, assuming all these teams continue to go unbeaten and Florida wins the SEC...

1. Ohio State/Michigan
2. Florida
3. USC/Notre Dame
4. Rutgers

or if Arkansas runs the table an wins the SEC...

1. Ohio State/Michigan
2. USC/Notre Dame
3. Rutgers
4. Arkansas

First off, I believe that the Rutgers hype machine has already started, and that their running the table will put them smack in the middle of national title talk, regardless of how crappy their schedule has been. Secondly, the better Arkansas looks, the better USC looks. To whoever worried about the west coast contingent of voters, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm pretty sure a decent majority of votes are coming from the eastern US. Regional bias will probably prove irrelevant, however, as anybody with the responsibility of a vote will at least look at the schedule, and remember the smack-down USC layed on Arkansas in Fayetville earlier this year. That, combined with a win over Cal, Notre Dame and UCLA at the end of the year stamps a ticket to Arizona.

On the opposite side of that coin, Notre Dame, being well... Notre Dame, will get a national title shot if they run the table and beat USC in Los Angeles.

Now that's all assuming Arkansas runs it and wins the SEC...

IMO Florida controls its own destiny with a national title bid. They run the table and win the SEC, they will jump the Ohio State/Michigan loser.
 
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Right now I'd say the order will be as follows assuming that each team wins out:

1. Ohio St. if they lose to Mich they will stay #2 in the BCS unless they get blown out by the Wolverines.
2. Florida
3. USC
4. Notre Dame
5. Arky

For Arky to get there IMO you need to beat LSU and UF, hope for a BIG Ohio St. victory over Mich., hope Cal beats USC, and hope USC beats ND.

I think that Cal will beat USC and USC will beat ND. I think that Arky's fate lies in their hand and OSU beating Michigan by 2TD+
 
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Right now I'd say the order will be as follows assuming that each team wins out:

1. Ohio St. if they lose to Mich they will stay #2 in the BCS unless they get blown out by the Wolverines.
2. Florida
3. USC
4. Notre Dame
5. Arky

For Arky to get there IMO you need to beat LSU and UF, hope for a BIG Ohio St. victory over Mich., hope Cal beats USC, and hope USC beats ND.

I do think OSU will handle Michigan pretty easily. I think pushes Michigan out of the picture. If Cal beats USC, Arkansas has a good shot.
 
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I'm bitter about the TX game last night and hate Arky as much as anyone...

That being said, they do deserve a shot if they win out. It'll be total bs if Michigan or Ohio St. gets a rematch.

Unfortunately, right now, there are no real answers. The only thing that scares me is the media frenzy if Notre Dame wins out. I can't imagine ESPN, NBC, etal not pulling out all the stops to get a 1-loss Notre Dame team in the final.
 
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dont think so... arkansas wins out= beating then 2nd ranked auburn, 13th ranked Tennessee, Top ten LSU, top ten Florida, an ok South Carolina.

now... say Ohio St. looses that= beating a quality then 2nd ranked Texas, was ranked but not any more Iowa, and one more "quality" win... penn st(unranked).

and...say michigan looses that= beating a then 2nd ranked Notre Dame and everyone else they have played besides Ohio st WAS UNRANKED!! ONE WIN AGAINST A RANKED OPPONENT!! TALK ABOUT CUPCAKE!!

IF ARKANSAS WINS OUT THE SHOULD PLAY FOR THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. NO QUESTIONS ASKED!

Nice of you to say. But it will never happen. National media still remembers the 50 - 14 loss in week one. I really feel that USC will run the table. If that takes place That is who the powers that be would love to see. They want a Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State and Southern Cal sort of match-up. They are praying for any of the above teams. Arkansas is not a national household name for the common fan to relate to. They want every TV in America that they can get to tune in that night. And with Arkansas vs. ?????.....doesn't sell it to the BCS. It's happen once to an SEC team, looks like if Arkansas runs the table it will happen again.
LSU is truly the best team in the SEC today. Arkansas is going to have a little luck on their side to win out. Look for a struggle at Starkville Saturday. They have always gave us a hellva game their in past years. I see no change this year.
 
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There is absolutely no chance that an SEC team will play in the BCS Title game this season. If USC and ND lose, then then we will have a rematch of the Tosu-Michigan game to be played this weekend.
 
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We'll see how some of the talking heads spin this one. Everybody was just about ready to concede the national title berth to Louisville or West Virginia. They all play in the same conference, and they all played a non-conference schedule similar in difficulty.

To quote Kirk Herbstriet during the Louisville @ Rutgers game, talking to the Big East Commish... Something to the tune of "Well if Rutgers goes undefeated and isn't playing for the national title, we'll scream our heads off for you."

Never underestimate the media advantage an undefeated team from greater New York will get.
 

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