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By Jimmy Hyams

Date: Nov 16, 2005

A number of fans have questioned whether David Cutcliffe should be Tennessee's next offensive coordinator. They say he's too conservative. They say it would be the same old same old. They say he couldn't win a national championship with Peyton Manning.

Let's examine the facts.
Cutcliffe called plays at Tennessee from 1993-1998.

In 1993, that ``conservative'' offense averaged over 200 yards per game rushing and over 200 yards per game passing. It scored a school-record 471 points. It scored 58 touchdowns, 31 by pass. It completed a school-record 65 percent of its passes.

From 1995-97, the Vols averaged more pass attempts per game than run attempts. Manning threw 477 passes in 1997. Tennessee averaged 35.6 points per game and 47 touchdowns per season.

By contrast, the Vols this season are averaging 16.8 points and have scored 14 offensive touchdowns, two on one-yard drives.

Cutcliffe's play calling was conservative in two seasons: 1994 and 1998. In 1994, he lost quarterbacks Jerry Colquitt and Todd Helton. Playing it close to the vest with two true freshmen quarterbacks -- Manning and Branndon Stewart - the Vols won seven of their last eight games.

Cutcliffe went conservative in 1998, breaking in first-year starter Tee Martin. The Vols went 13-0 and won the national title.

So, when Cutcliffe was conservative, the Vols were 20-1.

You want flash or victories?

It's true Manning never won a national title. But he won an NCAA-record 39 games (since broken by Georgia's David Greene). He won the 1997 SEC Championship. He just couldn't beat Florida, which won the national title in 1996 and was in the midst of an SEC dynasty matched only by Alabama in the 1970s.

Manning won 32 games in his final three seasons. If you're a UT fan, wouldn't you take 32 wins over the next three seasons?

A friend told me: ``What if UT hires Cutcliffe and the Vols go 6-5 or 7-4?''

My response: ``What if UT does NOT hire Cutcliffe and the Vols go 6-5 or 7-4?''

If you don't hire Cutcliffe and you struggle next season, you've opened yourself to more second guessing than going with a proven winner who resides in your back yard.


 
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Originally posted by oklavol@Nov 17, 2005 5:49 AM
http://tennessee.scout.com/2/467830.html

By Jimmy Hymen

A friend told me: ``What if UT hires Cutcliffe and the Vols go 6-5 or 7-4?''

My response: ``What if UT does NOT hire Cutcliffe and the Vols go 6-5 or 7-4?''

If you don't hire Cutcliffe and you struggle next season, you've opened yourself to more second guessing than going with a proven winner who resides in your back yard.
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So the point is to hire Cut because we don't want the possibility of the Horrid Second Guessing Monster?

Grow up, Hymen.

You don't hire Cutcliffe because he has one foot out the door. :bad:
 
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Originally posted by wilburnVol@Nov 17, 2005 8:01 AM
You don't hire Cutcliffe because he has one foot out the door.
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I think this one sentence speaks volumes for the risks in hiring him. He is a great OC. He has proven that. Conservative calling aside do we really want to hire someone who has already professed to be looking for a HC job? Do we really want to take somoene in, have them recreate our offense, our players learn that, recruits come to play that, only to have him walk out yet again?

I know that is a risk with every OC we could hire. But at the same time Cut has made this public time and time again. Who wants to play for someone who is more or less a temp? With that risk, recruits would be reluctant to come here. Players fear change. That's our big plus on recruiting is stability.

With Cut we're already down one big point at the gate. Is that risk worth taking?
 
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QUOTE(wilburnVol @ Nov 17, 2005 8:01 AM)
You don't hire Cutcliffe because he has one foot out the door.


Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 17, 2005 11:07 AM
I think this one sentence speaks volumes for the risks in hiring him. He is a great OC. He has proven that. Conservative calling aside do we really want to hire someone who has already professed to be looking for a HC job? Do we really want to take somoene in, have them recreate our offense, our players learn that, recruits come to play that, only to have him walk out yet again?

I know that is a risk with every OC we could hire. But at the same time Cut has made this public time and time again. Who wants to play for someone who is more or less a temp? With that risk, recruits would be reluctant to come here. Players fear change. That's our big plus on recruiting is stability.

With Cut we're already down one big point at the gate. Is that risk worth taking?
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Good follow on, couldn't agree more, Cut is a bandaid :eek:lol: not corrective surgery.

On top of that it is a continuation of the Good Ole Phil Club, we've already been lied to about RS being the QB coach (since when do QB coaches call the plays?) and to hire Cut is no answer.

Let's also not forget Cut may claim all this great health but is he? Put Cut and Phil in the room with a cardiologist and he'll make $10,000 before the day is out. Both of them could fall over dead at any minute.

The point you made about the recruiting is :rock: either Cut lies or Cut tells the truth about his HC feelings, either way, we're screwed. :bad: :bad: :bad:
 
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Originally posted by wilburnVol@Nov 17, 2005 11:35 AM
QUOTE(wilburnVol @ Nov 17, 2005 8:01 AM)
The point you made about the recruiting is  :rock:  either Cut lies or Cut tells the truth about his HC feelings, either way, we're screwed.  :bad:  :bad:  :bad:
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That is silly. DC has incredible prestige and name recognition in the business. This mythical OC hire that everyone is fantasizing about is not out there. I love it when people post that UT should hire an NFL coach who is really good and is willing to come to UT and take a HUGE paycut to do it. Not going to happen.
 
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Originally posted by Georgiavol@Nov 17, 2005 2:29 PM
That is silly.  DC has incredible prestige and name recognition in the business. 
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Ok granted, Cut is a cut above :eek:lol: so here's how the recruiting conversation is going to have to go.

QB Recruit: "Coach I read and heard you say you're looking for a HC job."
Cut: "Yes, I am".
QB:"How long will you stay at UT then?"
Cut: "Not one minute longer than I have to."
QB: "What if a HC job comes up right before, let's say, the NC game?"
Cut: "I have already set that precedent, I'm history."
QB: "But, but, Coach, that means RS would become......
Cut: :moon2:

Pass on Cut, thanks bot no thanks. :no:
 
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Originally posted by Georgiavol@Nov 17, 2005 2:29 PM
This mythical OC hire that everyone is fantasizing about is not out there.  I love it when people post that UT should hire an NFL coach who is really good and is willing to come to UT and take a HUGE paycut to do it.  Not going to happen.
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There is a host of collegiate only OCs and some which might make good HCs out there so pffft withthat argument.

Btw, I see by your avatar either you're in the headlights or you're a Manager.

A Deer Manager, that is. :eek:lol:
 
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New to the board and hoping to take my son the the Music City Bowl here in Nashville. It would be his first of many UT games. Go VOLS.

I have heard the rumor mill still throwing out Norm Chow's name. Just read an article today about the QB recruit from Illinois that is coming to visit campus. It mentions Norm's name. Anyone with any other news on this. I liked Cut but I am ready for a new face.
 
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Originally posted by SickofNotreDame@Nov 17, 2005 2:42 PM
New to the board and hoping to take my son the the Music City Bowl here in Nashville.  It would be his first of many UT games.  Go VOLS.

I have heard the rumor mill still throwing out Norm Chow's name.  Just read an article today about the QB recruit from Illinois that is coming to visit campus.  It mentions Norm's name.  Anyone with any other news on this.  I liked Cut but I am ready for a new face.
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I think Chow has pulled his name but not sure. :dunno: Who's the recruit?
 
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Originally posted by VolunteerHillbilly@Nov 17, 2005 2:38 PM
I'll take a few years of DC over just about anyone else out there.  Come back Cut!
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Would you take 4/5ths of a season? I wouldn't and that is a very likely scenario as HC jobs for 2007 roll over. :stop:
 
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Isiah Williams, the No. 1 ranked quarterback prospect in the Midwest according to Scout.com.

He has committed to Illinois but will pay a visit to UT.
 
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Originally posted by SickofNotreDame@Nov 17, 2005 2:56 PM
Isiah Williams, the No. 1 ranked quarterback prospect in the Midwest according to Scout.com.

He has committed to Illinois but will pay a visit to UT.
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Chicago QB Wants to Visit Penn State

Isiah Williams. By Rob Riva FightOnState.com
Date: Sep 23, 2005

Chicago quarterback Isiah Williams is committed to Illinois, but has also decided to check out other schools, including Penn State.

The decision was made. Isiah Williams knew where he wanted to play football in college. But, it is not a done deal quite yet.

A couple months ago, the four-star quarterback prospect from Chicago Vocational High in Chicago, Ill., verbally committed to his home state school, Illinois. Now, he plans to take a look at some other schools — including Penn State — to see what they may have to offer.

“I just want to get out there and see what other schools have to offer me, Williams said. “I just want to see what they have to offer me. It won't hurt to go out there and see what other schools have to offer me.” I'm sill getting a lot of calls from schools. I'm still willing to take a look and see what everyone has to offer.”

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I guess he wants to see what everyone has to offer him. :biggrin2: :biggrin2:
 
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Originally posted by SickofNotreDame@Nov 17, 2005 12:26 PM
Isiah Williams, the No. 1 ranked quarterback prospect in the Midwest according to Scout.com.

He has committed to Illinois but will pay a visit to UT.
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Committed to Zook??? Illinois??? That conference???
 
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Originally posted by SickofNotreDame@Nov 17, 2005 1:12 PM
New to the board and hoping to take my son the the Music City Bowl here in Nashville.  It would be his first of many UT games.  Go VOLS.

I have heard the rumor mill still throwing out Norm Chow's name.  Just read an article today about the QB recruit from Illinois that is coming to visit campus.  It mentions Norm's name.  Anyone with any other news on this.  I liked Cut but I am ready for a new face.
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There was an article in the tennessean last week, Chow said he was not interested and he had only met Phil once like abotu a year ago, and he had never been contacted about the O.C. job.
 
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Norm Chow is out of this program's league, unless the job came with the set intention of letting him take the reigns when Fulmer is done.
 
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Originally posted by wilburnVol@Nov 17, 2005 1:07 PM
Ok granted, Cut is a cut above  :eek:lol:  so here's how the recruiting conversation is going to have to go.

QB Recruit: "Coach I read and heard you say you're looking for a HC job."
Cut: "Yes, I am".
QB:"How long will you stay at UT then?"
Cut: "Not one minute longer than I have to."
QB: "What if a HC job comes up right before, let's say, the NC game?"
Cut: "I have already set that precedent, I'm history."
QB: "But, but, Coach, that means RS would become......
Cut: :moon2:

Pass on Cut, thanks bot no thanks.  :no:
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Look, i completely understand everyone's frustration with the thought of hiring Cut, AGAIN...but at the end of the day, he's not a bad hire, he's just not somebody to get excited about.

There's no one out there, save maybe Cut's family, that's just "excited" about being the OC at UT again. The fans are going to say, and rightfully so, "here we go again, out the old, in with the new old".

but you got to admit one thing, Cut CAN coach. He's proven that at UT and Ole Miss.

I think he'd do fine with both of the qb's we have on roster now, and he'll get his share of recruits. It's pretty powerful stuff to walk in to someone's home and say "you see Eli and Peyton Manning on Sundays?" recruit says "yeah", Cut: "Well, i coached them both for all 4 years in college, and i know talent when i see it, that's why i'm here son." :shades:

So, in truth, it just can't be all as bad as we think it is...though i do agree with the HC job talk...what would prevent him from bolting if someone he was interested in came calling....that would be interesting indeed.
 
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People complained about Cutcliffe the same as did Sanders in the last year.

It's just that nobody remembers it and seems to have forgotten that.

Amazing....

Get someone NEW in
 
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Originally posted by U-T@Nov 18, 2005 6:37 PM
People complained about Cutcliffe the same as did Sanders in the last year.

It's just that nobody remembers it and seems to have forgotten that.

Amazing....

Get someone NEW in
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People are going to complain no matter who comes in. The offense was very productive under coach Cut.
 
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I understand everyones concern. But coach Cut is a proven commodity in this league. It would be exciting to have a fresh new face on the Hill, but what if he fails, how patient will UT fans be before they start www.firenewoc.com? To ensure Cut doesn't bolt for a head coaching job in a year, just sign him to a long term deal with stipulations in his contract. If he wouldn't go for that then look elsewhere. Maybe we could do better than Cutcliff but I know we could do a whole lot worse. The real key will be what other assistants are brought in to coach the OL and WR's. I have complete confidence in coach Cut and would gladly welcome him back.
 
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What is with all of this Norm Chow nonsense? What makes any of you think that he would leave his OC job with the Titans after just one season to come to UT?? :eek:lol: Seriously, there is NO WAY that is going to happen.
 
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Originally posted by holdemvol@Nov 19, 2005 10:24 AM
The offense was very productive under coach Cut.
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With Peyton Manning, a lot of offenses could have been productive.

Cutcliffe was good but far from fantastic and our own fan base told him that many times whenever we lost.

Bringing Cut will not make our offense great.


 
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Originally posted by U-T@Nov 19, 2005 3:30 PM
With Peyton Manning, a lot of offenses could have been productive.

Cutcliffe was good but far from fantastic and our own fan base told him that many times whenever we lost.

Bringing Cut will not make our offense great.
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We didn't lose much when he was around, did we?
 
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