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Memvol44

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Who thinks one or both assistant coaches bail after this season??
 
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Memvol44 said:
Who thinks one or both assistance coaches bail after this season??
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If it turns out to be a really bad season and considering recruiting don't you think they will probably be the people that go first? That is the way it usually works Assistants get fired new ones in and coach gets another season with them and if nothing better happens then the coach gets fired. This is the usual formula.

Having said this the season would really have to go off the rails meaning no NCAA bid. I don't see that happening especially what I've seen out of the SEC this year. We will have to be really bad to not have a winning season in the SEC and finish at least in the top four in the league.
 
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Memvol44 said:
Well, Mr. Harper ain't leaving!!
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I think he would have to if that is what the AD said needed to be done. If Kellie is doing the firing he is not. I don't think she is firing any of her Assistants cause they did the job of getting the players to visit none of them decided on Tennessee. If they were fired for a bad season it would come from the AD not Kellie no way he would show favorites to any of them. Of course this may cause her to resign but I don't think he would let that stop any action he was deciding to enforce. Of course I don't think anybody is in danger right now just that usually Assistants go first.
 
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Memvol44 said:
Who thinks one or both assistance coaches bail after this season??
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The one that needs to go is married to the head honcho. Sorry but I’ve maintained since they were hired he needs to Mr. Mom his way outta this deal. We need an offensive coordinator and another person who is a net positive for recruiting.

I maintain Mr. Harper is, at best, a net neutral on recruiting. He seems like a nice enough dude but he’s just not gonna identify well with 18yo girls. You can tell.
 
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VolBall09 said:
The one that needs to go is married to the head honcho. Sorry but I’ve maintained since they were hired he needs to Mr. Mom his way outta this deal. We need an offensive coordinator and another person who is a net positive for recruiting.

I maintain Mr. Harper is, at best, at net neutral on recruiting. He seems like a nice enough dude but he’s just not gonna identify well with 18yo girls. You can tell.
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This seems really sexist to me. You can tell? Bully for you. Sounds prejudicial and judgemental to me.
 
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glv98 said:
This seems really sexist to me. You can tell? Bully for you. Sounds prejudicial and judgemental to me.
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Lots of buzz words there. Maybe there is a slate article you can read instead of my posts.
 
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Feels like I stumbled into softball and we are discussing the Weakley's again.

They come as a package. Take all or none.

Joy seems ok to me. She is pumped every game.

Teams usually have one to leave on about 50/50 basis.

Pat won with probably 100+ assistant coaches. That isn't the root cause of our woes.
 
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VolBall09 said:
Lots of buzz words there. Maybe there is a slate article you can read instead of my posts.
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Don't have to read Slate to know what would happen if any female coach anywhere was told to go home and take care of the kids. And don't try to coach a male team because we can tell by looking at you that you'd never relate.

But you do you, gender bias is out there on all sides.
 
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Shouldn't this thread be in the Harper thread since its purpose is likely to discuss coaching changes?
 
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Memvol44 said:
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I apologized for the misspelling, all of us aren't perfect "coach" with no team. Don't like it move along..
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You can edit your title by opening to the first page, tapping the ellipsis at the top right, chose edit thread, and you’re golden…😎
 
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chuckiepoo said:
You can edit your title by opening to the first page, tapping the ellipsis at the top right, chose edit thread, and you’re golden…😎
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or there is an edit link at the bottom of every one of their posts. If you go to the original post and click on that edit button, it will let the OP edit the title as well.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
I think he would have to if that is what the AD said needed to be done. If Kellie is doing the firing he is not. I don't think she is firing any of her Assistants cause they did the job of getting the players to visit none of them decided on Tennessee. If they were fired for a bad season it would come from the AD not Kellie no way he would show favorites to any of them. Of course this may cause her to resign but I don't think he would let that stop any action he was deciding to enforce. Of course I don't think anybody is in danger right now just that usually Assistants go first.
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Assistants were already let go due to underperfoming in recruiting. You usually don't get two bites at the same apple if things aren't going well. An AD might let you change staff, pay buyouts, and pay up for for replacements to fix a problem, but it had better be fixed, or the rest of the program had better be going really well for him to do it all over again.

And that is a good point about Kellie maybe not sticking around if the AD tells her to can her husband. That could be a gambit to get out of her buyout should the AD decide to go that route. I doubt it would work though because Kellie doesn't have any prospects of making anything like the money she is making here so it would be foolish not to ride it out for as long as she can.

Best case is she gets the team playing better and makes a good long run in the tournament. She has plenty of talent to work with, and if she doesn't do it this year there is little prospect of her having enough talent in the future to ever do it here.

I will say this about Mr. Harper though. No one here has any idea if he is a net plus or minus to the program. It is all just speculation. I haven't seen anyone who I think has solid contacts inside the program say anything one way or the other. Maybe others have better contacts and can enlighten us. I think a lot of the opposition to him is knowing he can't be replaced as easily as the others should that be necessary.
 
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Voluble2 said:
Maybe others have better contacts and can enlighten us. I think a lot of the opposition to him is knowing he can't be replaced as easily as the others should that be necessary.
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Bingo. You never hear criticism of his actual coaching, just his marriage. The comment we hear most about his coaching is "what does he do" or complaining about his coaching of Key - who he does not coach.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
I think he would have to if that is what the AD said needed to be done. If Kellie is doing the firing he is not. I don't think she is firing any of her Assistants cause they did the job of getting the players to visit none of them decided on Tennessee. If they were fired for a bad season it would come from the AD not Kellie no way he would show favorites to any of them. Of course this may cause her to resign but I don't think he would let that stop any action he was deciding to enforce. Of course I don't think anybody is in danger right now just that usually Assistants go first.
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She wouldn’t resign with all that contract money still on the table and no other P5 job already lined up.
 
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VolBall09 said:
The one that needs to go is married to the head honcho. Sorry but I’ve maintained since they were hired he needs to Mr. Mom his way outta this deal. We need an offensive coordinator and another person who is a net positive for recruiting.

I maintain Mr. Harper is, at best, a net neutral on recruiting. He seems like a nice enough dude but he’s just not gonna identify well with 18yo girls. You can tell.
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I think he should go also,, jmo.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Feels like I stumbled into softball and we are discussing the Weakley's again.

They come as a package. Take all or none.

Joy seems ok to me. She is pumped every game.

Teams usually have one to leave on about 50/50 basis.

Pat won with probably 100+ assistant coaches. That isn't the root cause of our woes.
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Is it the same though? The Weeklys both have a clue...
 
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