Auburn Loses To Missouri

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VolnJC

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Missouri came back from 8 down with 3 minutes left to win
last year Auburn was 14-16 and 6-12 in the SEC...this year they are 12-18 and 4-13 its possible they might lose 20 games this year
 
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They are still putrid. Need some Jimmys and Joes to see some success.
 
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VolnJC said:
He had Harrell, Mason, and Bowers this year...I think he had more talent than DT had
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I agree or equivalent talent at the minimum. DT outcoached Pearl this year, even if it's by two games. The difference was the non conference.
 
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Notorious B.E.N said:
They also played head to head...
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Look at our incoming recruits.

Look at Pearl's.

Even if we assume Tyndall is the better coach, it may not matter soon because Auburn will dwarf us in talent.

So, knowing that, Tyndall has to be a better coach to stay on Pearl's level because so far Tyndall isn't even a blip on the radar in the recruiting world while Pearl just recruited four 4*(three in the top 91) with two other 3* according to rivals, while we in the same class got two 3*.

Also, if Tyndall is a better coach as a whole, why was Pearl more successful at UW Milwaukee than Tyndall was at Southern Miss? Southern Miss is a much better program as far as athletics go. Pearl has been better out of the gate at all 3 schools he's been at(prior to Auburn) compared to the 3 schools Tyndall is at. And after 3 years removed, he has about the same record as Tyndall in his return. Beating Pearl in Pearl's first year isn't a big accomplishment given how bad both rosters are. We already know pearl can beat #1 teams(Kansas/Memphis) and national champion teams(Florida). I'll take that history over a single win against a first year head coach at their current program. Tyndall's win over Pearl this year literally proves nothing.

I'm not saying Tyndall isn't a better coach but I'm saying Pearl's history proves for the time being he's the better coach. Tyndall has literally none of the accomplishments Pearl has. Zero wins over #1 teams and zero sweet 16 appearances, which obviously means zero elite 8 appearances. Time will tell but as far as the entire world can tell, Pearl is better than Tyndall by default. It's not even close as far as perception goes. There is a reason ESPN asked Pearl to join them. To date, ESPN would have zero desire to go after someone like Tyndall because he has a ways to go to even be considered in Pearl's league.

Again, Pearl came back after 3 years removed and immediately brought in a top 10 class to a school that generally sucks ass at basketball. That should also tell you about how both are perceived. People perceive Pearl to be one of the best coaches in the country. People don't even know who Donnie Tyndall is. Go outside of the SEC and ask someone who Donnie Tyndall is and they'll probably think you're making him up that he's the head coach of Tennessee. I'm not kidding, I live in the midwest and I obviously talk about Tennessee with friends while they talk about the Big 10. They have no idea idea who our coach is, who Donnie Tyndall is in general or where he came from. Just throwing that out there...

And as far as Tyndall beating Pearl head to head... Bobby Johnson beat Phil Fulmer once. What does that matter? Fulmer won a championship while Bobby Johnson was lucky just to get a regular season win against any and all opponents. That Lousiana Monroe coach beat Saban in his first year at Bama, I to this date have no idea who that guy was. Him beating Saban is irrelevant because who knows if that guy even has a job anymore while Saban is building a dynasty as possibly the greatest college football coach of all-time. So... it's very possible Tyndall has the same future to look forward to as Bobby Johnson and that dude who coached LA Monroe. A fond memory of beating a bad Auburn team that's almost always bad and somehow being a good win cause it's against our former coach. Whoopty doo.

Edit: Just looked it up, the LA Monroe coach was named Charlie Weatherbie and he was fired a season or two after beating Alabama. He hasn't been hired by anyone since. I don't even think he was 55 when he was fired so that says how good of a coach he actually was seeing as he's 60 now and never coached again. And actually, Alabama wasn't bad that year. Sure their record was but they didn't lose a single game by more than 7 points. They lost to Louisiana Monroe by 7, Florida State by 7, Auburn by 7 LSU by 7, Miss St by 5, and Georgia by 3. Sadly, we along with Vanderbilt and Western Carolina were the only teams they beat by more than 4 points. They beat Vandy by 14, WC by 46 and us by 24.

Anyways, again, my point being that Tyndall's win over Pearl could mean absolutely nothing what so ever. Just like it meant for Bobby Johnson and Charlie Weatherbie. They suck and nobody cares that they beat Phil Fulmer/Tennessee and Nick Saban/Alabama. That means Tyndall's win over a terrible Auburn team(and coach removed from 3 years) isn't even something I myself as a Tennessee fan will remember in the years to come because it meant absolutely nothing. We're gonna be about .500 when the season ends and I don't know which direction our team is headed. Auburn is going to be about .500 when their season ends and I'm pretty sure they're headed for the top 25. If it comes to that, at least we always had that one win over a .500 Auburn team. Let's celebrate! :)
 
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Does it really matter? TOP already commented on what we all know, which is that enjoy Auburn being bad while it lasts because it won't last too much longer.

I think we all know where Tennessee men's basketball is headed. See Tennessee baseball post Delmonico. See Tennessee football post Fulmer.
 
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99gator said:
Does it really matter? TOP already commented on what we all know, which is that enjoy Auburn being bad while it lasts because it won't last too much longer.

I think we all know where Tennessee men's basketball is headed. See Tennessee baseball post Delmonico. See Tennessee football post Fulmer.
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Don't agree with that at all. Tyndall is a good coach. The NCAA issues will probably set him back a year in terms of rebuilding the roster, but we'll be fine with him in the long run if he survives.
 
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99gator said:
Does it really matter? TOP already commented on what we all know, which is that enjoy Auburn being bad while it lasts because it won't last too much longer.

I think we all know where Tennessee men's basketball is headed. See Tennessee baseball post Delmonico. See Tennessee football post Fulmer.
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There is too much failure in this post for it to be by accident. This is pure trolling.

We all know that Tennessee men's basketball was just fine under a very mediocre coach in Jerry Green (4 NCAA tournament appearances including a sweet 16 in '00) and will be just fine again. We also know that two of Fulmer's last four seasons at Tennessee were losing ones and that Jones has recruited at an elite level the last two classes. We also know a troll when we see one. Get lost.
 
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99gator said:
Does it really matter? TOP already commented on what we all know, which is that enjoy Auburn being bad while it lasts because it won't last too much longer.

I think we all know where Tennessee men's basketball is headed. See Tennessee baseball post Delmonico. See Tennessee football post Fulmer.
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Like I've said about Pearl at AU, we'll see.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There is too much failure in this post for it to be by accident. This is pure trolling.

We all know that Tennessee men's basketball was just fine under a very mediocre coach in Jerry Green (4 NCAA tournament appearances including a sweet 16 in '00) and will be just fine again. We also know that two of Fulmer's last four seasons at Tennessee were losing ones and that Jones has recruited at an elite level the last two classes. We also know a troll when we see one. Get lost.
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I'm not talking about a permanent state of bad.

I'm talking about a long, slow climb out of hell from the abyss.

Football is just now clawing its way to the surface. Baseball is still pushing to reach purgatory.

Men's basketball doesn't have a roster and doesn't have any recruits on the way. The program is in major trouble for a long term rebuild.

That's not a troll job. That's an opinion backed up by the evidence that I see
 
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99gator said:
I'm not talking about a permanent state of bad.

I'm talking about a long, slow climb out of hell from the abyss.

Football is just now clawing its way to the surface. Baseball is still pushing to reach purgatory.

Men's basketball doesn't have a roster and doesn't have any recruits on the way. The program is in major trouble for a long term rebuild.

That's not a troll job. That's an opinion backed up by the evidence that I see
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This very much remains to be seen in a sport where even one solid recruiting class can go a long way and you weren't stating anything as your opinion. You were using language such as "We all know" as if you were giving established facts not open to dispute.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This very much remains to be seen in a sport where even one solid recruiting class can go a long way and you weren't stating anything as your opinion. You were using language such as "We all know" as if you were giving established facts not open to dispute.
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with regard to "we all know"....point taken.
 
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VolnJC said:
Missouri came back from 8 down with 3 minutes left to win
last year Auburn was 14-16 and 6-12 in the SEC...this year they are 12-18 and 4-13 its possible they might lose 20 games this year
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I honestly don't know why Pearl took at job. There was absolutely no talent on the roster he inherited and AU fans will never be loyal basketball followers. Pearl got UT fans to love him and pack out a large gym for weekend and weeknight games. He will never have that at Auburn. I would have loved to hire him back but doubt it would have ever happened, although if Tyndall had any hand in what happened at So. Miss he would make Pearls infractions look like Childs play. If Pearl had just been honest about the BBQ he would still be at TN. Really hope he can get out of AU and go somewhere that he has a legitimate chance at winning and gets the kind of support from fans and university that he had in Knoxville.
 
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99gator is right as usual, haters to the left.

Call me when Donnie Tyndall decides to crack down on allowing the fifth-most three-point attempts in the nation. (For the record, his offense is structurally fine.)
 
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govols120 said:
99gator is right as usual, haters to the left.

Call me when Donnie Tyndall decides to crack down on allowing the fifth-most three-point attempts in the nation. (For the record, his offense is structurally fine.)
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I would definitely take Pearl all day over Tyndall. I'm not sure Tyndall will ever do much here but hope I'm wrong. Don't know if he will be able to consistently recruit good players and don't think he is good enough of a coach to overachieve with lesser players. There is absolutely no excuse for being 2-7 in SEC home games. Outside of UK there aren't many SEC teams that should be able to come win in our gym. Especially losing to Vandy and SCe at home. Really is inexcusable to not win those two games and to not at least have a winning record at home. The league isn't good enough to be able to justify that kind of conference record at home.
 
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govols120 said:
99gator is right as usual, haters to the left.

Call me when Donnie Tyndall decides to crack down on allowing the fifth-most three-point attempts in the nation. (For the record, his offense is structurally fine.)
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Any team with a roster as bad as Tyndall's will have a glaring deficiency. Congrats on finding this team's.

What about the fact that the team played way over its head in several games this year? I never saw that from Cuonzo's squad and in fact Bruce's teams only managed it a handful of times, despite playing with significantly better players. They also had a tendency to lose to much worse opponents.

I don't think people realize how bad this team could/should have been.

Riding it out with Tyndall should he receive anything less than a show cause is the best option by far right now. The guy can coach, and just because we had a losing streak and regressed toward the mean at the end of the season doesn't take away from that.

At worst, he will be set back a year on the recruiting trail due to the NCAA issues, but that would also happen if Hart fires him and rolls the dice on yet another mid-major coach. As I said elsewhere, the SEC is full of mid-major coaches who make noise at the lower levels and then do absolutely nothing in the conference (Frank Martin, Grant, Barbee, and even Stallings come to mind).
 
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You can either blame it on the roster or you can blame it on the fact that the next team to defend the three-point line will be his first.

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