B1G and SEC will discuss scheduling partnership and automatic bids

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Between those two conferences, I think there is about 2 billion in TV revenue to share. If this scheduling partnership is a trial run for a full partnership for the future, the final nail in the coffin for the ACC and other conferences will be placed.
 
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McDad said:
Between those two conferences, I think there is about 2 billion in TV revenue to share. If this scheduling partnership is a trial run for a full partnership for the future, the final nail in the coffin for the ACC and other conferences will be placed.
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We need to get to ONE conference or league or whatever we want to call it. But two conferences would work as long as they cooperated.

Have a commissioner or other governing body and some real rules.

Break into divisions looking more like the old college conferences based on geography.

Keep the playoff but improve it.

Think NFL…but much larger. The money would be huge.
 
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EZE said:
We need to get to ONE conference or league or whatever we want to call it. But two conferences would work as long as they cooperated.

Have a commissioner or other governing body and some real rules.

Break into divisions looking more like the old college conferences based on geography.

Keep the playoff but improve it.

Think NFL…but much larger. The money would be huge.
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The NFL is the ratings king, CFB is not even close.

But I don't want CFB to be anything like the NFL. I am afraid that any continued consolidation of power is only going to hurt more than help. Keep disinfranchising fans of other schools and those fans will stop watching. I feel like CFB is at or near its peak, it's all downhill from here.

The powers that be can't help themselves, their greed is going to kill the golden goose.
 
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They're laying the groundwork to become the North and South divisions of the next pro league. You can bet there are discussions to let teams like Vandy and Northwestern, who likely really don't want to be in the pro sports business, have an out to stay with whatever remains of college football.

It's inevitable. You can't pay players outright from the schools and still cling to the "they're just college students" notion. Calling it NIL isn't going to magically sneak it past the Supreme Court.

It'll take a few messy years and hopefully I'll age beyond caring or beyond living by the time it dies completely.
 
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The future scheduling partnership could hinge on whether the SEC eventually decides to go to nine conference games -- a topic one SEC source said hasn't been a focus of conversations lately. Some Big Ten athletic directors could push back on any agreement if the SEC doesn't move to nine games, because the Big Ten already plays nine league opponents.
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If the BIG has an issue with the number of in conference games the SEC plays, then they don't really want to enter an agreement. The BIG is trying to devalue the strength of the SEC if they want SEC teams to play an extra SEC game.
 
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Looks like they're discussing 4 automatic bids for both the Big 10 and SEC. There is generally 4 playoff-worthy SEC teams every year. Big 10? They may have 2 in their good years. I never remember them having 4 really good teams. Maybe they'll get better with the Pac 12 additions but still don't think they should get the same number of automatic bids as the SEC.
 
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Vols All Day said:
If the BIG has an issue with the number of in conference games the SEC plays, then they don't really want to enter an agreement. The BIG is trying to devalue the strength of the SEC if they want SEC teams to play an extra SEC game.
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The conference is too big for an 8 game schedule unless you don't mind seeing some annual rivalries go away.
 
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With 16 teams, I feel like we have 2 conferences. I have not enjoyed the growth and will always insist that I enjoyed the bowl games more when we were tied to the sugar bowl. Old rivalry games are gone. You can argue that new rivalry games will exist, but do they really? You don't play the same teams every year. The SEC is about to be the new NCAA. When you get too many schools involved, your input gets watered down and UT is a founding member which I do believe was a point of pride.
 
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ntxVOL said:
The NFL is the ratings king, CFB is not even close.

But I don't want CFB to be anything like the NFL. I am afraid that any continued consolidation of power is only going to hurt more than help. Keep disinfranchising fans of other schools and those fans will stop watching. I feel like CFB is at or near its peak, it's all downhill from here.

The powers that be can't help themselves, their greed is going to kill the golden goose.
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I think I’m pretty safe in saying that on a weekly basis, more people watch college football than the NFL. What do you mean specifically when you say “the NFL is the ratings king?”
 
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ntxVOL said:
SEC and B1G are going to throw their weight around and bully everyone else. I'm glad we're at the big boy table but not sure what they're trying to do is best for CFB in general.
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If everyone could agree that the ACC and Big 12 are currently weak, we wouldn’t need to take further steps to prove it. If the Big 10 and SEC do not go this route, then we’re not going to get the 12 best teams into the playoffs.

At least Clemson is starting to beat up on their conference opponents. That’s the kind of thing I need to see before they get ranked ahead of Missouri or Oklahoma. (As if I personally have a say in the matter).
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
4 guaranteed entries for Little 10? They don’t have that many good teams compared to SEC….this is making a deal with the devil.
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Eh idk. Are those four teams not better than most of what the other conferences produce? I mean you generally have one ACC team that’s any count and one big 12 team. Still leaves two slots for them to piss away on teams like Notre Dame that have zero chance in the playoffs.
 
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adam.vol said:
If everyone could agree that the ACC and Big 12 are currently weak, we wouldn’t need to take further steps to prove it. If the Big 10 and SEC do not go this route, then we’re not going to get the 12 best teams into the playoffs.

At least Clemson is starting to beat up on their conference opponents. That’s the kind of thing I need to see before they get ranked ahead of Missouri or Oklahoma. (As if I personally have a say in the matter).
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FYI, You sound exactly like a Longhorn fan. This is one the EXACT tactics used by the Longhorns to gain power within their conference.
 
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ntxVOL said:
FYI, You sound exactly like a Longhorn fan. This is one the EXACT tactics used by the Longhorns to gain power within their conference.
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I wouldn’t know about them. Finebaum and SEC Network treated Nick Saban’s Bama the same way though, so you’re probably right.
 
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adam.vol said:
I wouldn’t know about them. Finebaum and SEC Network treated Nick Saban’s Bama the same way though, so you’re probably right.
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They will convince enough of the top programs that they are worth more money than the rest and expect an unequal revenue share in return.

That's already happening in the new 12 team playoff. The SEC and B1G are taking a larger share of the pie leaving a smaller share for the Big12, ACC, ND, and then an even smaller share for everyone else.

Forget about "a rising tide lifts all boats". This is going to create an ever growing chasm between us and them. It's going to destroy college football in the end.

JMO
 
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DaddyChad said:
Eh idk. Are those four teams not better than most of what the other conferences produce? I mean you generally have one ACC team that’s any count and one big 12 team. Still leaves two slots for them to piss away on teams like Notre Dame that have zero chance in the playoffs.
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My point is. If they stay at 12, there is no way that the Little 10 should get 4. I would say most years the 5 place SEC team is better than the 3 or 4 Little 10. If they stay at 12, the SEC will be limited to 4 every year.

if they go to 16 and they each are guaranteed 4 but not limited based on rankings the SEC could get 5 or 6, then I would be game To the change.
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
My point is. If they stay at 12, there is no way that the Little 10 should get 4. I would say most years the 5 place SEC team is better than the 3 or 4 Little 10. If they stay at 12, the SEC will be limited to 4 every year.

if they go to 16 and they each are guaranteed 4 but not limited based on rankings the SEC could get 5 or 6, then I would be game To the change.
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I've no argument that the B1G isn't as strong on it field as the SEC. That's obvious.

They do, however, draw a bunch of eyeballs and TV revenue. Think of it this way, the Cowboys are pretty weak but they're still powerful in the NFL because of their wide fanbase.

The value of the B1G on the field is only part of their power in college football. Follow the money. Always follow the money.
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
My point is. If they stay at 12, there is no way that the Little 10 should get 4. I would say most years the 5 place SEC team is better than the 3 or 4 Little 10. If they stay at 12, the SEC will be limited to 4 every year.

if they go to 16 and they each are guaranteed 4 but not limited based on rankings the SEC could get 5 or 6, then I would be game To the change.
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First I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said however I would say that eventually as more and more revenue goes to the big ten and SEC that more and more talent is going to concentrate there. The problem right now with the playoffs is there is too many political ways for a team like Notre Dame to take a spot even though they don’t deserve it.
 
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