Backers

[AllVol23]

I know Pearce was a monster coming off the edge last Saturday and stole the show, but my goodness our young backers were flying around. Carter and Telander are gonna be good for a long time.

 

[Orangeglasses90]

I know Pearce was a monster coming off the edge last Saturday and stole the show, but my goodness our young backers were flying around. Carter and Telander are gonna be good for a long time.

Was exciting to see them take a step forward and seeing a large number of kids rotating in and out on D. Hope they keep that energy up through the year. Maybe Florida was a huge wake up call for everyone.

 

[OffTackleVol]

I know Pearce was a monster coming off the edge last Saturday and stole the show, but my goodness our young backers were flying around. Carter and Telander are gonna be good for a long time.

I haven't had the chance to watch the replay, and I'm sure it's probably already been addressed on some previous post, but what happened on the 75 yard TD run? I was at the game, and it looked like our safety just took a bad angle.

 

[Vols410]

I know Pearce was a monster coming off the edge last Saturday and stole the show, but my goodness our young backers were flying around. Carter and Telander are gonna be good for a long time.

Absolutely. The drop off after Pili went down concerned me, but the way the freshmen have played the past couple weeks is exciting. Only gonna get better as the year goes on.

 

[VolFanNC09]

Excited about the backers we have. Seems Beasley was a little off last game, but Carter Herring and Telander looked like they were in the right place all night

 

[BigALWiLson]

I haven't had the chance to watch the replay, and I'm sure it's probably already been addressed on some previous post, but what happened on the 75 yard TD run? I was at the game, and it looked like our safety just took a bad angle.

44 got eat up again. He has got to stop getting sucked in. The guy out ran everyone else.

 

[bpalmer28]

jk. jk

 

[AllVol23]

I haven't had the chance to watch the replay, and I'm sure it's probably already been addressed on some previous post, but what happened on the 75 yard TD run? I was at the game, and it looked like our safety just took a bad angle.

Tank was sucked in and walker had the bad angle. However, walker had a pretty decent game besides that, had several tackles in space. Herring and Beasley backers on that play.

 

[BigALWiLson]

Tank was sucked in and walker had the bad angle. However, walker had a pretty decent game besides that, had several tackles in space. Herring and Beasley backers on that play.

Boo starts at Safety next year most likely. That will improve us getting out run in the secondary. Hopefully our young CBs are ready next year

 

[jarnol32]

I haven't had the chance to watch the replay, and I'm sure it's probably already been addressed on some previous post, but what happened on the 75 yard TD run? I was at the game, and it looked like our safety just took a bad angle.

Herring was out of position.

 

[37620VOL]

Carter is the most physically gifted LB we've had since Mayo

 

[loggervol]

44 got eat up again. He has got to stop getting sucked in. The guy out ran everyone else.

If we had referee’s that called holding, that TD would have been called back. The hand grabbing the outside of the shoulder pad should be holding.

 

[OffTackleVol]

Carter is the most physically gifted LB we've had since Mayo

I'm impressed with Tealander as well. Future looks bright........

 

[loosecannon]

I haven't had the chance to watch the replay, and I'm sure it's probably already been addressed on some previous post, but what happened on the 75 yard TD run? I was at the game, and it looked like our safety just took a bad angle.

In short, as you can see, Omari got absolutely destroyed and moved out of his gap. When SCAR motioned, Beasley shifted right with the motion. This left Herring to Cover the B gap and Thomas to Cover the A gap. Beasley shifted to Weak A gap coverage and the safety replaced Herring. So, everything was still fine, but once Thomas got moved out to the C gap, Herring had a Center come straight to him and got sealed. Neither Backer won, but Herring being a young guy tried to sit in the gap rather than slipping backside on the block (this is a gamble and typically not a good move; however, it was his only chance here--he has a tendency to sit and read a little long). It really was a bad DLINE play more than it was the linebackers' fault.

 

[37620VOL]

Good analysis @loosecannon - I would only add that we have a numbers problem. SC has 7 blockers in the play. TN has 8 "in the box" (#12 is just off screen to the left of #44). SC#89 motion from left to right moves #2 and #30 slighlty out of position. So now it's 7 blockers to 6 defenders in position.

Key failures:
1) Motion (eye candy) needlessly moves us out of position to the right
2) #21 draws an initial double team but fails to hold it and keep the LB clean. If he can hold the double team #44 is free to make a tackle. #44 does the best he can because he can't allow a cut back to the left side of #21.
3) #6 gets gobbled up and should have kept his leverage to the inside (left) because he has a lot of help (#2 and #30 to his right). Even better would have been to meet the blocker at the LOS but I don't know what coverage responsibilities he might have had.
4) #2 is a step out of position due to the motion. #1 is out there to the right and capable of handling the man in motion.
5) Everyone ends up getting blocked up except #2. Early in the play he has a split second chance to shoot the gap and meet the RB at the LOS, after that, he needed to get over the top of #6, but unfortunately for us 1 SC blocker eliminated 2 of our tacklers ... and TD.

I have to think SC saw something in our alignments and knew this play would be there for them coming out of the half. We must have made a quick adjustment because it didn't happen again.

 

[Vol8188]

I haven't had the chance to watch the replay, and I'm sure it's probably already been addressed on some previous post, but what happened on the 75 yard TD run? I was at the game, and it looked like our safety just took a bad angle.

6 had a bad/slow run fit. If he fits inside the guard we have an unblocked Tank ready to make the tackle to the outside. Instead he reacts slow and outside of the guard despite having help outside. 44 was way too slow

 

[Vol8188]

Tank was sucked in and walker had the bad angle. However, walker had a pretty decent game besides that, had several tackles in space. Herring and Beasley backers on that play.

Tank was in a good position. 6 should’ve spilled to him and didn’t

 

[loosecannon]

6 had a bad/slow run fit. If he fits inside the guard we have an unblocked Tank ready to make the tackle to the outside. Instead he reacts slow and outside of the guard despite having help outside. 44 was way too slow

with the motion, 6 was drifting laterally and never got downhill at all. I don't know if that was something that he was supposed to do or not, but I tend to think there was something amiss as we had two guys in one spot. This play is very indicative of what Florida did to us all game long. Double, Herring fit really slowly (he has all year long... FLA long TD run that everyone points to Hadden's horrible tackling was largely a product of Herring standing still for a two count before moving to the gaping hole), and Beasley and a S would be standing on top of each other. I am really surprised that SCAR didn't use motion more. We are so vulnerable.

 

[loosecannon]

Good analysis @loosecannon - I would only add that we have a numbers problem. SC has 7 blockers in the play. TN has 8 "in the box" (#12 is just off screen to the left of #44). SC#89 motion from left to right moves #2 and #30 slighlty out of position. So now it's 7 blockers to 6 defenders in position.

Key failures:
1) Motion (eye candy) needlessly moves us out of position to the right
2) #21 draws an initial double team but fails to hold it and keep the LB clean. If he can hold the double team #44 is free to make a tackle. #44 does the best he can because he can't allow a cut back to the left side of #21.
3) #6 gets gobbled up and should have kept his leverage to the inside (left) because he has a lot of help (#2 and #30 to his right). Even better would have been to meet the blocker at the LOS but I don't know what coverage responsibilities he might have had.
4) #2 is a step out of position due to the motion. #1 is out there to the right and capable of handling the man in motion.
5) Everyone ends up getting blocked up except #2. Early in the play he has a split second chance to shoot the gap and meet the RB at the LOS, after that, he needed to get over the top of #6, but unfortunately for us 1 SC blocker eliminated 2 of our tacklers ... and TD.

I have to think SC saw something in our alignments and knew this play would be there for them coming out of the half. We must have made a quick adjustment because it didn't happen again.

They aligned unbalanced with a sniffer. We basically aligned in a 4-3 Under look, playing cover 6 behind it. 12 is a flat defender. When they motion 89 across, all of the linebackers and 2 take a step to the right with him. I don't know if this is coached or just really bad play, but when they do so they get out of alignment. There is no eligible receiver on the right side of the formation, and we have a DB just hanging outside there. So, this looks like SCAR exploited our reaction to motion, and we essentially shifted to cover a ghost. The sniffer goes away, so 13 has backside run responsibilities and misses a chance to tackle it at the line of scrimmage. McDonald reduces down as an overhang but never makes it there either. He keeps outside control, but it is just a mess all around. We are a step slow across the board reacting. But that is the difference between great defenses and average college defenses. Those holes get filled immediately and we give up plus yardage.

 

[barney]

I know Pearce was a monster coming off the edge last Saturday and stole the show, but my goodness our young backers were flying around. Carter and Telander are gonna be good for a long time.

Yeah I thought Telander had a monster game. Need that from him for sure.

 

[37620VOL]

They aligned unbalanced with a sniffer. We basically aligned in a 4-3 Under look, playing cover 6 behind it. 12 is a flat defender. When they motion 89 across, all of the linebackers and 2 take a step to the right with him. I don't know if this is coached or just really bad play, but when they do so they get out of alignment. There is no eligible receiver on the right side of the formation, and we have a DB just hanging outside there. So, this looks like SCAR exploited our reaction to motion, and we essentially shifted to cover a ghost. The sniffer goes away, so 13 has backside run responsibilities and misses a chance to tackle it at the line of scrimmage. McDonald reduces down as an overhang but never makes it there either. He keeps outside control, but it is just a mess all around. We are a step slow across the board reacting. But that is the difference between great defenses and average college defenses. Those holes get filled immediately and we give up plus yardage.
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Really good conversation here. Based on Rattler's post-game comments that we were rolling coverage to Leggett, I'm going to assume that #13 has some coverage responsibilities for the strong-side receiver (Leggett) and deep help if that TE attacks deep. This is why #13 was late to the party.

 

[loosecannon]

Really good conversation here. Based on Rattler's post-game comments that we were rolling coverage to Leggett, I'm going to assume that #13 has some coverage responsibilities for the strong-side receiver (Leggett) and deep help if that TE attacks deep. This is why #13 was late to the party.

But the TE was covered. I think you are right. This is exactly what happened but was unnecessary. We were guarding a TE that was dead.

 

[sjt18]

I haven't had the chance to watch the replay, and I'm sure it's probably already been addressed on some previous post, but what happened on the 75 yard TD run? I was at the game, and it looked like our safety just took a bad angle.

Looked like they had a blitz on and USCe got a block. No one was left to stop it. It could have been stopped by a DL but really was just the wrong call against the wrong call.

 

[sjt18]

They aligned unbalanced with a sniffer. We basically aligned in a 4-3 Under look, playing cover 6 behind it. 12 is a flat defender. When they motion 89 across, all of the linebackers and 2 take a step to the right with him. I don't know if this is coached or just really bad play, but when they do so they get out of alignment. There is no eligible receiver on the right side of the formation, and we have a DB just hanging outside there. So, this looks like SCAR exploited our reaction to motion, and we essentially shifted to cover a ghost. The sniffer goes away, so 13 has backside run responsibilities and misses a chance to tackle it at the line of scrimmage. McDonald reduces down as an overhang but never makes it there either. He keeps outside control, but it is just a mess all around. We are a step slow across the board reacting. But that is the difference between great defenses and average college defenses. Those holes get filled immediately and we give up plus yardage.
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Wouldn't call them "great" but not "average" either. Take away the fake punt and UT holds USCe to less yds than UGA did. UT disrupted USCe more than UGA did.

USCe did the same thing UT does on that play. The D had to respond to that motion or else get outnumbered. Moving with him was probably the right response but I believe the LB on the left blitzed on the snap then USCe got a block that created a seam with no one behind since the DBs were cheated to the WR side.

 

[butchna]

Was exciting to see them take a step forward and seeing a large number of kids rotating in and out on D. Hope they keep that energy up through the year. Maybe Florida was a huge wake up call for everyone.

It was said on the VQ Pod that Brian Jean-Mary “does it differently” than the other position coaches. And I agree to the positive! Others work their guys into rotations AFTER they “trust” them. Jean-Mary TRUSTS them as he sees what they’ve got. Thus Carter and Telander out on the field in crucial situations happens.