Bama Bowl Game

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Playing Baylor in the Sugar.

That is what I am hoping anyway, because I already bought tix for the Sugar Bowl and the wife is Baylor grad.
 
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XknoxvolsX said:
Because of their history, I am willing to bet a cool $1 (that’s right, a cool one dolla bill) that regardless of which bowl or opponent, Bama loses their bowl game!
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Probably gonna get matched up with an unranked ACC team in the Orange or a G5 in the Cotton. Either way, the team won't care, a bunch of guys won't play, and they'll surely lose.
 
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they’re probably going to the Orange to play UVA. Exactly the matchup that I didn’t want.
 
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bamawriter said:
Probably gonna get matched up with an unranked ACC team in the Orange or a G5 in the Cotton. Either way, the team won't care, a bunch of guys won't play, and they'll surely lose.
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We won’t beat you in the Orange bowl. I understand that you’ll have some guys probably sit out, but it’s still a really bad matchup for us.
 
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bamawriter said:
Probably gonna get matched up with an unranked ACC team in the Orange or a G5 in the Cotton. Either way, the team won't care, a bunch of guys won't play, and they'll surely lose.
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Even so, Alabama will still be picked #1 or #2 for the 2020 preseason.
 
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bamawriter said:
Probably gonna get matched up with an unranked ACC team in the Orange or a G5 in the Cotton. Either way, the team won't care, a bunch of guys won't play, and they'll surely lose.
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When they are not in the playoffs or during the BCS era NC, It’s as if the team and coaching could care less!
 
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XknoxvolsX said:
When they are not in the playoffs or during the BCS era NC, It’s as if the team and coaching could care less!
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They couldn't care less. And I'd be a hypocrite if I were to criticize them for their apathy. I will watch and hope Bama wins. But if we lose the Cotton Bowl I could not possibly give less of a crap.

Edit to add: the last non-CFP or BCSNCG bowl that Bama won was the 2010 Citrus Bowl, and I just had to look up the opponent (Michigan St) because I couldn't recall. That's how little I care.
 
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bamawriter said:
They couldn't care less. And I'd be a hypocrite if I were to criticize them for their apathy. I will watch and hope Bama wins. But if we lose the Cotton Bowl I could not possibly give less of a crap.

Edit to add: the last non-CFP or BCSNCG bowl that Bama won was the 2010 Citrus Bowl, and I just had to look up the opponent (Michigan St) because I couldn't recall. That's how little I care.
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Before the BCS, and now the CFP, attempted to establish a REAL national champion, it seems as if the bowl games actually meant something. The sports writers determined who would be the Mythical National Champion. To play in the Sugar Bowl meant you were deemed SEC champion. Maybe the AP voted the SEC champ #1 or #5 or #7 going in to the Sugar Bowl. After all games had been played, the kingmakers spoke, and the #1 voted team was declared National Champion. Sometimes there was a split, and the title would be shared. Or maybe you want to claim a championship because another group of kingmakers declared your team Champion...
The price of having a system for determining a true Champion is that the bowls mean less than nothing. When the fans catch on and refuse to pay the travel cost and ticket price to see their team (or at least the players who won't be drafted) play in a game that means nada, the old system, which actually contributed to the tradition and pageantry that is college football, will finally come crashing down and we can all admit that college football is in fact a farm system for the NFL. Pay the players? That's where we are headed. What's even the point having the colleges involved at all? We feel state pride or, if we attended the university of the team we root for, we feel school pride. Are we moving toward a system in which we have several regional entities, independent of state run educational institutions, where 18-20 year olds are selected to hone their skills as they await the opportunity to be drafted into one of the professional leagues?
 
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BAMA-DAWG said:
Before the BCS, and now the CFP, attempted to establish a REAL national champion, it seems as if the bowl games actually meant something. The sports writers determined who would be the Mythical National Champion. To play in the Sugar Bowl meant you were deemed SEC champion. Maybe the AP voted the SEC champ #1 or #5 or #7 going in to the Sugar Bowl. After all games had been played, the kingmakers spoke, and the #1 voted team was declared National Champion. Sometimes there was a split, and the title would be shared. Or maybe you want to claim a championship because another group of kingmakers declared your team Champion...
The price of having a system for determining a true Champion is that the bowls mean less than nothing. When the fans catch on and refuse to pay the travel cost and ticket price to see their team (or at least the players who won't be drafted) play in a game that means nada, the old system, which actually contributed to the tradition and pageantry that is college football, will finally come crashing down and we can all admit that college football is in fact a farm system for the NFL. Pay the players? That's where we are headed. What's even the point having the colleges involved at all? We feel state pride or, if we attended the university of the team we root for, we feel school pride. Are we moving toward a system in which we have several regional entities, independent of state run educational institutions, where 18-20 year olds are selected to hone their skills as they await the opportunity to be drafted into one of the professional leagues?
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It's called nostalgia. For one, bowls may have felt like they meant more because there were far fewer. So from that standpoint, it's hardly just the BCS/CFP, it's that it used to be that not even 8-4 would get you a bowl bid, depending on your conference/school. However things were just as political then as now. On top of that, the New Year's Day bowls meant something; everything else....not so much. There has always been a segment of the bowls that nobody outside of some of the fans of the schools cared about. This romantic notion that all the bowls used to "mean" something is revisionist history and pining for a time that didn't really happen.
 
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bamawriter said:
I hope you were near the fainting couch while reading my post.
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What are you going to do when Saban expires and you guys have to go back to working for a living? Are you just going to turn off the season after you lose a second game, now that you're too good to root for a team that isn't going to be in the playoff?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
What are you going to do when Saban expires and you guys have to go back to working for a living? Are you just going to turn off the season after you lose a second game, now that you're too good to root for a team that isn't going to be in the playoff?
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Not at all. There have been times when I've cared about lower tier bowl games: when the team has been on the rise (2004 Music City, 2005 Cotton) or against a great opponent (2013 Sugar). But after the let down of this season, and against what is likely to be a complete nobody, I see no reason to care. Call it "hubris" if it comes off that way, but it's reality. If the recent runs of UT and Bama were reversed, I'd imagine you'd feel the same way.
 
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bamawriter said:
Not at all. There have been times when I've cared about lower tier bowl games: when the team has been on the rise (2004 Music City, 2005 Cotton) or against a great opponent (2013 Sugar). But after the let down of this season, and against what is likely to be a complete nobody, I see no reason to care. Call it "hubris" if it comes off that way, but it's reality. If the recent runs of UT and Bama were reversed, I'd imagine you'd feel the same way.
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You're team is 10-2. Quit acting like a spoiled child. Yes, you basically have been one the past decade. But it's time for a reality check. No longer is it National title or bust for Bama. Other programs have caught up. Saben isn't getting any younger. That's my suggestion. Don't take double digit wins for granted, trust me.
 
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UTK said:
You're team is 10-2. Quit acting like a spoiled child. Yes, you basically have been one the past decade. But it's time for a reality check. No longer is it National title or bust for Bama. Other programs have caught up. Saben isn't getting any younger. That's my suggestion. Don't take double digit wins for granted, trust me.
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I've been thru plenty of rough times as a Bama fan. But right now is not one of those times, and I simply don't care about Wake Forest or Memphis. I'd feel differently if we were having this conversation in 2007.
 
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bamawriter said:
I've been thru plenty of rough times as a Bama fan. But right now is not one of those times, and I simply don't care about Wake Forest or Memphis. I'd feel differently if we were having this conversation in 2007.
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I understand. When you're dominant like Bama has been, losing just hurts more. But winning doesn't feel as good (unless it's a championship). But still. We all know college football goes in cycles. I would try to enjoy a double digit season. 5-10 years down the road, Bama could be in a place where 7-5 is the norm. You honestly just never know.
 
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