Barnes strategy: Bailey, Powell- Alabama game, season

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Tennessee strategy vs Alabama Barnes rotations :
Barnes plus Bailey (23 % 3 pointers, 34 % at home) playing time minus Powell (41 % 3 pointers, 51 percent at home) lack of playing time = Alabama loss
Why is Bailey playing over Powell ? I cannot figure out why Bailey (4,7 points per game) and Plavsic (3.3 pts per game) are playing so much !! This team's
Achilles' heal this season is offensive droughts !
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Calm down. Powell played 26 minutes to Bailey’s 1 in the Arizona game. Barnes either had a mini- stroke at Bama or he was managing around players with viruses.
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In ogs defense, he immediately put Powell in the game right after Bailey took the shot that wasn’t close. That tells me Powell was good enough to be in the game literally a minute prior.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Calm down. Powell played 26 minutes to Bailey’s 1 in the Arizona game. Barnes either had a mini- stroke at Bama or he was managing around players with viruses.
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I had read that Powell was not feeling really good.
 
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Powell was sick!

Unless you wanted to him to throw up all over the court.
 
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Rememberthelate90s said:
In ogs defense, he immediately put Powell in the game right after Bailey took the shot that wasn’t close. That tells me Powell was good enough to be in the game literally a minute prior.
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Powell played 16 minutes. It’s possibly probable that he was spent. Posters have freaked out over the minutes. Bailey played 20 with the short bench. Same number as Powell and Mashack combined.

Why didn’t Powell get Mashack’s 4 minutes? Somebody should start a new thread. Surely a poster in here has every answer on exactly why coaches that are around these players every day and know every detail about their physical condition and how they are performing in workouts will know better than the staff does. The dumbest takes are that Barnes is being stubborn and is benching players that would win him games because he’s upset with them.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Powell played 16 minutes. It’s possibly probable that he was spent. Posters have freaked out over the minutes. Bailey played 20 with the short bench. Same number as Powell and Mashack combined.

Why didn’t Powell get Mashack’s 4 minutes? Somebody should start a new thread. Surely a poster in here has every answer on exactly why coaches that are around these players every day and know every detail about their physical condition and how they are performing in workouts know better than the staff does. The dumbest takes are that Barnes is being stubborn and is benching players that would win him games because he’s upset with them.
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It’s probably that many of these posters live at a Holiday Inn Express. Instant qualifications. As one poster noted when the discussion on playing time went nuclear: “I’m not going to make comments about who should have played how much because I’m not around these guys for multiple hours daily and had no clue what was going on with the illnesses.” That seems to include 99% of us, yet everyone just knows the staff is screwing up.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Powell played 16 minutes. It’s possibly probable that he was spent. Posters have freaked out over the minutes. Bailey played 20 with the short bench. Same number as Powell and Mashack combined.

Why didn’t Powell get Mashack’s 4 minutes? Somebody should start a new thread. Surely a poster in here has every answer on exactly why coaches that are around these players every day and know every detail about their physical condition and how they are performing in workouts will know better than the staff does. The dumbest takes are that Barnes is being stubborn and is benching players that would win him games because he’s upset with them.
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His mo is he is a bit set in his ways. Tends to not play people especially young unless no other option is available. Good answer to my point though. I’m talking about a minute. Obvi the kid didn’t mind playing 16 minutes. 17 may have won the game for us.
 
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cardvolfan said:
It’s probably that many of these posters live at a Holiday Inn Express. Instant qualifications. As one poster noted when the discussion on playing time went nuclear: “I’m not going to make comments about who should have played how much because I’m not around these guys for multiple hours daily and had no clue what was going on with the illnesses.” That seems to include 99% of us, yet everyone just knows the staff is screwing up.
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Another insane take is that Barnes doesn’t work the refs. Of course he does. He’s just taking a different tack instead of always being demonstrative and in their faces showing them up. Doing that on the road also incites the crowd. I have no doubt that Barnes communicates to the refs when he doesn’t agree with their calls. Barnes even keeps pictures of the refs next to him at every game so that he is certain to speak with them using their names. You can be civil and still get your point across. It also puts more weight on those times when he actually does lose his **** over a call. I would think that refs eventually tune out the coaches that constantly scream at them.
 
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Rememberthelate90s said:
His mo is he is a bit set in his ways. Tends to not play people especially young unless no other option is available. Good answer to my point though. I’m talking about a minute. Obvi the kid didn’t mind playing 16 minutes. 17 may have won the game for us.
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The strategy, including putting Bailey on the court for 20 minutes, may have put TN in position to win a game at one of the SEC’s best teams while leaving two of the best players back in Knoxville.
 
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Barnes clearly said for public consumption that Powell had some defensive busts and he needed to come out because he didn't understand what he was supposed to do on defense. It wasn't a strategy based on who can hit a 3 pt shot, it was a defense-first application by the coach. Attacking Barnes over the Powell vs Bailey melodrama on these boards is silly.
 
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I am surprised Powell wasn't instantly teleported to a starting spot in the NBA after that nifty spin move he pulled on the breakaway.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Powell played 16 minutes. It’s possibly probable that he was spent. Posters have freaked out over the minutes. Bailey played 20 with the short bench. Same number as Powell and Mashack combined.

Why didn’t Powell get Mashack’s 4 minutes? Somebody should start a new thread. Surely a poster in here has every answer on exactly why coaches that are around these players every day and know every detail about their physical condition and how they are performing in workouts will know better than the staff does. The dumbest takes are that Barnes is being stubborn and is benching players that would win him games because he’s upset with them.
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Thats not what your coach is telling us:
“We need Justin to want to really lock in defensively, with everybody,” Vols coach Rick Barnes said. “And he’s capable of doing it. But tonight he hadsome breakdowns on the defensive end. That’s why we were taking him out.'
 
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1985Vols said:
Thats not what your coach is telling us:
“We need Justin to want to really lock in defensively, with everybody,” Vols coach Rick Barnes said. “And he’s capable of doing it. But tonight he hadsome breakdowns on the defensive end. That’s why we were taking him out.'
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I don’t think I’ve ever heard Barnes say people that he played were sick/tired, but he might have and I missed it. I feel like him saying “their defense is bad” for players for which it is true is common for him and would be easy to deflect with.
 
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1985Vols said:
Thats not what your coach is telling us:
“We need Justin to want to really lock in defensively, with everybody,” Vols coach Rick Barnes said. “And he’s capable of doing it. But tonight he hadsome breakdowns on the defensive end. That’s why we were taking him out.'
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His minutes dropped to 16 from 26 in the previous game even though two players ahead of him in the rotation stayed in Knoxville. Also he isn’t telling you anything. What he utters to Bob is for the next opponent to ponder over, not to satisfy your curiosity.

The question was why did Powell go in at the end of the game if he wasn’t as healthy as Bailey. Because at 0:25 TN had to foul and 3 other guards had 4 fouls. Powell went in with zero fouls and was supposed to commit the intentional foul. He failed to execute. It’s also odd that Powell had no fouls in 16 minutes. With good defensive effort you’d think he’d have fouled at least once.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
His minutes dropped to 16 from 26 in the previous game even though two players ahead of him in the rotation stayed in Knoxville. Also he isn’t telling you anything. What he utters to Bob is for the next opponent to ponder over, not to satisfy your curiosity.

The question was why did Powell go in at the end of the game if he wasn’t as healthy as Bailey. Because at 0:25 TN had to foul and 3 other guards had 4 fouls. Powell went in with zero fouls and was supposed to commit the intentional foul. He failed to execute. It’s also odd that Powell had no fouls in 16 minutes. With good defensive effort you’d think he’d have fouled at least once.
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The 26 is the outlier. Powell played 16 or less in 4 of the last 5 games. Barnes cited defense as the reason for his reduced minutes. Meanwhile, no one on the floor could score vs Alabama.
 
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SPRINGHILLVOL said:
Tennessee strategy vs Alabama Barnes rotations :
Barnes plus Bailey (23 % 3 pointers, 34 % at home) playing time minus Powell (41 % 3 pointers, 51 percent at home) lack of playing time = Alabama loss
Why is Bailey playing over Powell ? I cannot figure out why Bailey (4,7 points per game) and Plavsic (3.3 pts per game) are playing so much !! This team's
Achilles' heal this season is offensive droughts !
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What I can't figure out is how Bailey is at 23%. I must have missed a game that he went 12 for 12 in. I'm not sure I have seen him make one or two all season and he doesn't stop shooting.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
The 26 is the outlier. Powell played 16 or less in 4 of the last 5 games. Barnes cited defense as the reason for his reduced minutes. Meanwhile, no one on the floor could score vs Alabama.
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It’s not really an anomaly when it’s versus one of the best teams in the country.

Nice cherry picking with the stats. Powell played in over 16 minutes in each of the first 6 of the 11 games. He’s only played single digits in one of 11 games. Powell averages 18.5 minutes and Barnes is suggesting when he’s not on the floor it is because his defense is too much of a liability. In close games the stops are as important as the “outlier” 3.
 
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