Barry Bonds

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These latest revalations are just unreal. There are thousands of documents, hundreds of interviews and grand jury testimony implicating Barry Bonds has been a walking drugstore for years, and some people still think this is a witch hunt???
 
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ah, hell, they were all on the juice....him, Sosa, McGwire, Giambi....and others i'm sure.

baseball is a joke, and they have no one to blame but themselves. At this point, even it turned out it wasn't true, which i don't believe for one second, the damage has been done. they have no credibility with me.
 
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I can't really imagine anyone being really surprised by this latest stuff coming out...
 
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(jakez4ut @ Mar 8 said:
ah, hell, they were all on the juice....him, Sosa, McGwire, Giambi....and others i'm sure.

baseball is a joke, and they have no one to blame but themselves. At this point, even it turned out it wasn't true, which i don't believe for one second, the damage has been done. they have no credibility with me.
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I would agree that all the players you mentioned are pretty shady. However, McGwire starting his career off by hitting 49 HRs in his first full season with the A's and followed it up with multiple 50 HR seasons (I think he had 50 in the strike shortened season too.) Bonds on the other hand went from 38 one year to 73 the next???
 
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(therealUT @ Mar 9 said:
I would agree that all the players you mentioned are pretty shady. However, McGwire starting his career off by hitting 49 HRs in his first full season with the A's and followed it up with multiple 50 HR seasons (I think he had 50 in the strike shortened season too.) Bonds on the other hand went from 38 one year to 73 the next???
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Yeah 38 to 73 is a lot more home runs to hit. None of this suprises me. I just wish we could go back to the good ole days in baseball when we didnt have to listen to all this bull crap
 
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Yeah, but go back and look at pics of McGuire in his first full season with the A's as a 'young' player, and how much be blossomed in physical stature as a mature man late in his career. Bowflex is good, but can only do so much on aging muscles.
 
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(GVF @ Mar 9 said:
Yeah, but go back and look at pics of McGuire in his first full season with the A's as a 'young' player, and how much be blossomed in physical stature as a mature man late in his career. Bowflex is good, but can only do so much on aging muscles.
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I agree...McGwire got huge, but he was still ripping the cover off the ball at a pace of 55+HRs every 162 games, as a skinny kid. And, at least McGwire admitted to using Andro (whether he used anything else will never be known,) Bonds has always tried to play the "all natural" card.
 
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(SpPirate06 @ Mar 9 said:
Yeah 38 to 73 is a lot more home runs to hit. None of this suprises me. I just wish we could go back to the good ole days in baseball when we didnt have to listen to all this bull crap
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and you know what the saddest part is? (and i'm not a huge baseball fan anyway, but....) in 98 when Sosa and McGwire were going head to head on the homeruns....MLB loved it. For the first time in a long time, baseball was on the forefront of everyone's mind. It was great...i remember watching that cubs/cards game...that was awesome. Now it's just full of question marks and scandal. pathetic. and MLB probably knew what was going on but who's gonna stop it when the biggest story in 50 years is about to happen? MLB puts so much into the individual records....that it has now become their own worst enemy.
 
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Bonds will deny all charges until someone comes out and catches him with hard proof. And they will. Then he will admit and ask for forgiveness. He is a joke.
 
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(jakez4ut @ Mar 9 said:
and you know what the saddest part is? (and i'm not a huge baseball fan anyway, but....) in 98 when Sosa and McGwire were going head to head on the homeruns....MLB loved it. For the first time in a long time, baseball was on the forefront of everyone's mind. It was great...i remember watching that cubs/cards game...that was awesome. Now it's just full of question marks and scandal. pathetic. and MLB probably knew what was going on but who's gonna stop it when the biggest story in 50 years is about to happen? MLB puts so much into the individual records....that it has now become their own worst enemy.
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yep... really saddens me, that's what got me into baseball. I was 11 at the time and already sorta paid attention to it, but that's what really hooked me, that homerun chase.
 
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Barry Bonds deserves all the verbal communication of dissapointment from the fans, what he did was plain and simply cheat. He is not alone in this distinction but seems to have drawn most of the critisim. I'm no Bonds fan and never have been myself, but the way the media has went after him like a shark feeding frenzy....I gotta admit when he said everyone in the media has lied at one time or another, or cheated at one time or another...and then come after his character and reputation like a crew of snow white unreproachable judges in a witch hunt leaving him feeling singled out....I think he has a point. Yes he brought some of this on by denying, but the media can be viscious. In the sports world especially the make or break any player at any sport. But the fact remains as rough as theyve been on him, if he had not juiced up in the 1st place, or when he did he admitted it...he wouldve difused their angle and it wouldve died down long ago. In my opinion bothe he and the media are a little wrong, and a little right.
 
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Go look at Bond's Actual HEAD from the Pirate days and then during these last few years. Working out or even mild supplements (Like Andro) do not make your Skull Grow. Human Growth Hormone does. his batting helmet has to be 3 full sizes bigger.

Honestly, I really wish somebody would slip a Spring Training Scrub 100 Large for the sole purpose of DRILLING Baroid right in that Weak Knee of his. End this whole "what do we do if he breaks the records" discussion nice and fast.
 
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Michael Smith made a great point today on Around The Horn. Trying to go back and fix the steroids era in baseball would be like trying to go back and undo segragation. You can't. MLB screwed up when they didn't catch these guys in the first place, and there's nothing you can do to stop Barry Bonds right now. If he breaks the career home run record, Bud Selig and the rest of MLB can go ahead and blame themselves for such a colossal blunder, then try and regroup and move on.
 
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i just read an excert from the shadows book in my new sports illustrated. and all i can say is WOW.

honestly i used to like bonds and i didnt think he juiced. but this stuff is just to much.


if yall get a chance pick up the new SI and read the article. this guy is a liar and a cheat and needs to retire. if he breaks ruth's and aaron's marks, it will be a total shame.


baseball should expel him immediately.


:no: :no: :no: :no:
 
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(checkerboard_charly @ Mar 9 said:
i just read an excert from the shadows book in my new sports illustrated. and all i can say is WOW.

honestly i used to like bonds and i didnt think he juiced. but this stuff is just to much.
if yall get a chance pick up the new SI and read the article. this guy is a liar and a cheat and needs to retire. if he breaks ruth's and aaron's marks, it will be a total shame.
baseball should expel him immediately.
:no: :no: :no: :no:
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I think that article is at the end of the pics in the link I posted. It is truly disturbing. :rock:
 
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wow, if you expel bonds from baseball, you need to expel every single man in baseball. There all on juice. Sorry to say it but they are. Espically Roger clemens. Why isnt anyone on his ass about this. Also I have a fair share of belief that Nolan Ryan was on it as well.
 
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(checkerboard_charly @ Mar 9 said:
roger clemens?
what the hell are u talking about.? he plays once every 5 days.
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yeah he is also way past his prime, and still throwing the heater like he use to. No way you keep your arm in that good of shape unless you pop roids right? I mean look how much bigger roger has gotten from his days at texas till now. same as bonds. But people refuse to give one of there baseball golden childs a bad name. As I said, Its all corupt, but I still love the game.
 
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(VolFirebirds @ Mar 9 said:
Honestly, I really wish somebody would slip a Spring Training Scrub 100 Large for the sole purpose of DRILLING Baroid right in that Weak Knee of his. End this whole "what do we do if he breaks the records" discussion nice and fast.
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Forget the knee... if someone beaned him in that melon of his, it'd pop like a zit...

Bonds is reaping what he gave... he's always been a prick, so the media never will do him any favors, especially with him being a druggie.

I can't stand Clemens either... moreso for his ongoing "will I stay or will I go" soap opera that he's been playing out for the last 3 years now.
 
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Clemens has always been a big dude. He's gotten bigger, but mainly has just gained weight like you'd expect a 40+ year old athlete to do.
 
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I agree with 2345's general sentiment though. You can't just go and kick Barry Bonds out of baseball... That would be singling him out. Another thing is they would be kicking him out for past offenses, when there were no set rules on steroid use in the MLB. If you want to kick somebody out, catch them in the act. They need to start being a serious bunch of hardasses about drug testing.
 
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