Before They Were ELITE....

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Before these men were ELITE and some of the hottest names in college football....they did not have the most :jawdrop: eye popping jobs in the country.

Les Miles Age 59:
1980–1981 Michigan (GA)
1982–1986 Colorado (OL)
1987–1994 Michigan (OL)
1995–1997 Oklahoma State (OC)
1998–2000 Dallas Cowboys (TE)
2001–2004 Oklahoma State (HC)
2005–present LSU (HC)

Chip Kelly Age 49:
1990 Columbia (DB/ST)
1991 Columbia (OLB/SS)
1992 New Hampshire (RB)
1993 Johns Hopkins (DC)
1994–1996 New Hampshire (RB)
1997–1998 New Hampshire (OL)
1999–2006 New Hampshire (OC)
2007–2008 Oregon (OC)
2009–present Oregon (HC)

Brian Kelly Age 51:
1983–1986 Assumption (assistant)
1987–1990 Grand Valley State (assistant)
1991–2003 Grand Valley State (HC)
2004–2006 Central Michigan (HC)
2006–2009 Cincinnati (HC)
2010–present Notre Dame (HC)

Bob Stoops Age 52:
1983–1984 Iowa (GA)
1985–1987 Iowa (vol. asst)
1988 Kent State (asst)
1989–1990 Kansas State (DB)
1991–1995 Kansas State (Co-DC)
1996–1998 Florida (DC)
1999–present Oklahoma (HC)

Urban Meyer Age 48:
1985 St. Xavier HS (OH) (DB)
1986 Ohio State (TE)
1987 Ohio State (WR)
1988 Illinois State (OLB)
1989 Illinois State (QB/WR)
1990–1995 Colorado State (WR)
1996–2000 Notre Dame (WR)
2001–2002 Bowling Green (HC)
2003–2004 Utah (HC)
2005–2010 Florida (HC)
2012–present Ohio State (HC)

Mark Richt Age 52:
1985–1989 Florida State (GA)
1989 East Carolina (OC)
1990–2000 Florida State (OC/QB)
2001–present Georgia (HC)

Will Muschamp Age 41:
1995–1996 Auburn (GA)
1998 Eastern Kentucky (DB)
1999 Eastern Kentucky (DB)
2000 Valdosta State (DC)
2001–2004 Louisiana State (DC/LB)
2005 Miami Dolphins (AHC/DC)
2006–2007 Auburn (DC)
2008–2010 Texas (DC/LB)
2011–present Florida (HC)

Now the so called top of Hart's list in no specific order:

Jimbo Fisher Age 47:
1991–1992 Samford (OC)
1993–1998 Auburn (QB)
1999 Cincinnati (QB)
2000–2006 LSU (OC/QB)
2007–2010 Florida State (OC/QB)
2010–present Florida State (HC)

Mike Gundy Age 45:
1990 Oklahoma State (WR)
1991–1993 Oklahoma State (QB)
1994–1995 Oklahoma State (OC/QB)
1996 Baylor (QB)
1997–2000 Maryland (WR)
2001–2004 Oklahoma State (OC)
2005–present Oklahoma State (HC)

Charlie Strong Age 52:
1983–1984 Florida (Graduate asst)
1985 Texas A&M (Graduate asst)
1986–1987 Southern Illinois (WR)
1988–1989 Florida (OLB)
1990 Ole Miss (WR)
1991–1994 Florida (Asst HC/DT)
1995–1998 Notre Dame (DE / DT)
1999–2001 South Carolina (DC)
2002–2009 Florida (DC/DE) Florida (Asst HC/co-DC/LB)
2010–Present Louisville (HC)

Larry Fedora Age 50:
1986 Austin (GA)
1987–1990 Garland HS (TX)
1991–1996 Baylor (WR/TE/RB)
1997–1998 Air Force (QB/WR)
1999–2001 Middle Tennessee (OC)
2002–2004 Florida (OC)
2005–2007 Oklahoma State (OC)
2008–2011 Southern Mississippi (HC)
2012–present North Carolina (HC)

These top 4 candidates if you will all have winning records as head coaches and have won a conference championship recently. With that being said....what more do all of you want? Winners win...plain and simple. All these candidates have proven they know how to get it done....that is what is most important.
 
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should i name all the coaches who haven't had good past jobs and ended up sucking? I'd go on all day. your point is invalid.
 
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The difference is that some people don't feel comfortable taking that risk. Getting a proven winner from a big school has a better chance of immediate success. A younger, up-and-coming coach does not have as big of a shot at immediate success and our fan base is hungry.
 
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You know what... of all these resumes, Mark Richt's impresses me the most. It's an easier route to play the game of jumping from team to team to try to catch a 'wave' of a strong class or two to get a winning record and then bolt to the next higher notch school (and pay grade), but Richt has very little turnover and has stuck, and he's done pretty damn well.

Pay that man his money (insert Malkovich Russian accent).
 
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Sheezy said:
should i name all the coaches who haven't had good past jobs and ended up sucking? I'd go on all day. your point is invalid.
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If they are not current head coaches that are at the top of job lists with top 20 teams...well then I can't make you understand guy. That is your problem.
 
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Outside of Fedora and maybe Gundy if thats the top of Harts list I am very concerned.
 
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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
Before these men were ELITE and some of the hottest names in college football....they did not have the most :jawdrop: eye popping jobs in the country.

Les Miles Age 59:
1980–1981 Michigan (GA)
1982–1986 Colorado (OL)
1987–1994 Michigan (OL)
1995–1997 Oklahoma State (OC)
1998–2000 Dallas Cowboys (TE)
2001–2004 Oklahoma State (HC)
2005–present LSU (HC)

Chip Kelly Age 49:
1990 Columbia (DB/ST)
1991 Columbia (OLB/SS)
1992 New Hampshire (RB)
1993 Johns Hopkins (DC)
1994–1996 New Hampshire (RB)
1997–1998 New Hampshire (OL)
1999–2006 New Hampshire (OC)
2007–2008 Oregon (OC)
2009–present Oregon (HC)

Brian Kelly Age 51:
1983–1986 Assumption (assistant)
1987–1990 Grand Valley State (assistant)
1991–2003 Grand Valley State (HC)
2004–2006 Central Michigan (HC)
2006–2009 Cincinnati (HC)
2010–present Notre Dame (HC)

Bob Stoops Age 52:
1983–1984 Iowa (GA)
1985–1987 Iowa (vol. asst)
1988 Kent State (asst)
1989–1990 Kansas State (DB)
1991–1995 Kansas State (Co-DC)
1996–1998 Florida (DC)
1999–present Oklahoma (HC)

Urban Meyer Age 48:
1985 St. Xavier HS (OH) (DB)
1986 Ohio State (TE)
1987 Ohio State (WR)
1988 Illinois State (OLB)
1989 Illinois State (QB/WR)
1990–1995 Colorado State (WR)
1996–2000 Notre Dame (WR)
2001–2002 Bowling Green (HC)
2003–2004 Utah (HC)
2005–2010 Florida (HC)
2012–present Ohio State (HC)

Mark Richt Age 52:
1985–1989 Florida State (GA)
1989 East Carolina (OC)
1990–2000 Florida State (OC/QB)
2001–present Georgia (HC)

Will Muschamp Age 41:
1995–1996 Auburn (GA)
1998 Eastern Kentucky (DB)
1999 Eastern Kentucky (DB)
2000 Valdosta State (DC)
2001–2004 Louisiana State (DC/LB)
2005 Miami Dolphins (AHC/DC)
2006–2007 Auburn (DC)
2008–2010 Texas (DC/LB)
2011–present Florida (HC)

Now the so called top of Hart's list in no specific order:

Jimbo Fisher Age 47:
1991–1992 Samford (OC)
1993–1998 Auburn (QB)
1999 Cincinnati (QB)
2000–2006 LSU (OC/QB)
2007–2010 Florida State (OC/QB)
2010–present Florida State (HC)

Mike Gundy Age 45:
1990 Oklahoma State (WR)
1991–1993 Oklahoma State (QB)
1994–1995 Oklahoma State (OC/QB)
1996 Baylor (QB)
1997–2000 Maryland (WR)
2001–2004 Oklahoma State (OC)
2005–present Oklahoma State (HC)

Charlie Strong Age 52:
1983–1984 Florida (Graduate asst)
1985 Texas A&M (Graduate asst)
1986–1987 Southern Illinois (WR)
1988–1989 Florida (OLB)
1990 Ole Miss (WR)
1991–1994 Florida (Asst HC/DT)
1995–1998 Notre Dame (DE / DT)
1999–2001 South Carolina (DC)
2002–2009 Florida (DC/DE) Florida (Asst HC/co-DC/LB)
2010–Present Louisville (HC)

Larry Fedora Age 50:
1986 Austin (GA)
1987–1990 Garland HS (TX)
1991–1996 Baylor (WR/TE/RB)
1997–1998 Air Force (QB/WR)
1999–2001 Middle Tennessee (OC)
2002–2004 Florida (OC)
2005–2007 Oklahoma State (OC)
2008–2011 Southern Mississippi (HC)
2012–present North Carolina (HC)

These top 4 candidates if you will all have winning records as head coaches and have won a conference championship recently. With that being said....what more do all of you want? Winners win...plain and simple. All these candidates have proven they know how to get it done....that is what is most important.
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They've proven themselves against lesser talent. All would be a risk in the SEC. Are you ready for UT to take another risk after the last few years of hell?

But if it had to be one of the four, I go with Strong. He knows SEC defense and, IMO, defense is more important than offense in the SEC. You can mix and match your offense and find some success, but your D better be up to snuff or you are screwed in this league.
 
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Weezer said:
They've proven themselves against lesser talent. All would be a risk in the SEC. Are you ready for UT to take another risk after the last few years of hell?

But if it had to be one of the four, I go with Strong. He knows SEC defense and, IMO, defense is more important than offense in the SEC. You can mix and match your offense and find some success, but your D better be up to snuff or you are screwed in this league.
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So did the people who aren't on Harts list. Spurrier was at duke before Florida and he was great Florida.
 
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AllVol11717 said:
The difference is that some people don't feel comfortable taking that risk. Getting a proven winner from a big school has a better chance of immediate success. A younger, up-and-coming coach does not have as big of a shot at immediate success and our fan base is hungry.
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And you don't think all of those other big time schools shot for the stars? I highly doubt those guys were everyone's first choice, either. It takes a lot of luck for that home run hire to truly, realistically be available.
 
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Not saying Muschamp is elite but he's curb-stomped UT twice and has his team in a BCS bowl and almost playing for it all....with a team that was supposed to lose at aTm & UT. Not bad!
 
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AllVol11717 said:
The difference is that some people don't feel comfortable taking that risk. Getting a proven winner from a big school has a better chance of immediate success. A younger, up-and-coming coach does not have as big of a shot at immediate success and our fan base is hungry.
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When has this EVER happened?
 
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Boca Vol said:
Saban is about the only one I can think of. Well, and Meyer.
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Meyer was unemployed (as a coach), not at a big school.

Saban was struggling in Miami and apparently looking to leave.

I understand what you're saying, but coaches just don't leave big colleges where they're having success unless they're going to the NFL.
 
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Remember when everyone was comparing Dooley to Saban when he first started
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Meyer was unemployed (as a coach), not at a big school.

Saban was struggling in Miami and apparently looking to leave.

I understand what you're saying, but coaches just don't leave big colleges where they're having success unless they're going to the NFL.
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You're correct. I was referring to top success at 2 different schools like this fan base is demanding. Very rare.
 
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