Bernie 100% Tax Rate

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Apparently he’s been throwing this out for more than a year now, but I’m not sure if we’ve ever addressed how insane this is.

I have a lot of questions/comments. The first being his insane reasons. “You may disagree with me, but I think people can make it on 999 million”….is this his idea of how taxes should work? Should the goal of taxes be to only leave people with enough “to make it”.

Secondly I have the question of who specifically does this apply to? Is Bernie confusing income and wealth or do we have numerous people who earn 1 billion or more? I highly doubt anyone has a 1 billion income.


 
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Apparently he’s been throwing this out for more than a year now, but I’m not sure if we’ve ever addressed how insane this is.

I have a lot of questions/comments. The first being his insane reasons. “You may disagree with me, but I think people can make it on 999 million”….is this his idea of how taxes should work? Should the goal of taxes be to only leave people with enough “to make it”.

Secondly I have the question of who specifically does this apply to? Is Bernie confusing income and wealth or do we have numerous people who earn 1 billion or more? I highly doubt anyone has a 1 billion income.


Penalizing success and stealing in order to the further empower the Federal Government is what socialist do.

He’s a lunatic.
 
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obviously there are lots of things wrong with this, but for the people who think its a good idea here are a few things:

1. This is a wealth tax, not an income tax. NO ONE makes a billion dollars A YEAR. even if you counted every form of income. as a wealth tax it would only work once. because once you have done it they no longer have more than a billion dollars worth of stuff and this tax would hit noone. you might get the rich SOB every once and a while if there is some new merger, or something new pops up and get a first timer.
2. pretty much all of that wealth is tied up in non-tangible assets. Elon Musk doesn't have eleventy billion dollars worth of stuff. he more or less has eleventy billion dollars of credit. There is no way for the government to even seize any of that.
3. There are 802 billionaires, worth 6.22 trillion. assuming each got to keep a billion dollars the government steals less than 5.5 trillion. that's not even enough to run our country for a year. so I am not sure what this accomplishes besides just being spiteful. assuming it actually worked with some type of mass asset seizure for the total amount
4. as soon as this tax was announced all of that "credit" would disappear. and you would have the IRS trying to pin people down for money they never actually had. Kinda like Trump being a billionaire, look at the financials and he "only" has a couple hundred million. pretty much every single one of them are the same. its money/value/wealth on paper only, or now digital. yeah the super super super rich will have a billion dollars of something, but it won't be anywhere close to the 802 you are hoping to hit.
5. what assets they do have worth anywhere close to that amount would be their businesses. Bezos with Amazon, Musk with Tesla/SpaceX, Waltons with Walmart, so on and so forth. Issue here is multiple: a) they aren't sole owners, so if the government wanted to seize the company they would be hitting far more than the top guys. b) they would be seizing a company, which would immediately lose most of its projected value once it was in the hands of the government, c) it would be nationalizing businesses which leads to the last point
6. the rich would likely just shut down most of whatever is creating that value. the government seizing or nationalizing a business is a sure way to run it into the ground and ruin the value of these mega corps, which would hit the average american super fast. Imagine no-Amazon, no Walmart. that is really what this tax would do, the rich would go on living life just as they are, but we are left suffering, or worse off, with nothing to show for it.

lawyers and CPAs would be the only people to benefit from this.
 
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Apparently he’s been throwing this out for more than a year now, but I’m not sure if we’ve ever addressed how insane this is.

I have a lot of questions/comments. The first being his insane reasons. “You may disagree with me, but I think people can make it on 999 million”….is this his idea of how taxes should work? Should the goal of taxes be to only leave people with enough “to make it”.

Secondly I have the question of who specifically does this apply to? Is Bernie confusing income and wealth or do we have numerous people who earn 1 billion or more? I highly doubt anyone has a 1 billion income.


How many homes do have to own to be an expert on how much is enough?
 
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Apparently he’s been throwing this out for more than a year now, but I’m not sure if we’ve ever addressed how insane this is.

I have a lot of questions/comments. The first being his insane reasons. “You may disagree with me, but I think people can make it on 999 million”….is this his idea of how taxes should work? Should the goal of taxes be to only leave people with enough “to make it”.

Secondly I have the question of who specifically does this apply to? Is Bernie confusing income and wealth or do we have numerous people who earn 1 billion or more? I highly doubt anyone has a 1 billion income.


This is shocking I know, but threshold for the Wealth Tax keeps coming down… Now a married couple worth $32M would be subject.

Under his proposal, a married couple with a net worth of $32 million would have paid a 1% wealth tax.

Good thing @lawgator1 and @BowlBrother85 told us this was only for people worth much more.
 
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obviously there are lots of things wrong with this, but for the people who think its a good idea here are a few things:

1. This is a wealth tax, not an income tax. NO ONE makes a billion dollars A YEAR. even if you counted every form of income. as a wealth tax it would only work once. because once you have done it they no longer have more than a billion dollars worth of stuff and this tax would hit noone. you might get the rich SOB every once and a while if there is some new merger, or something new pops up and get a first timer.
2. pretty much all of that wealth is tied up in non-tangible assets. Elon Musk doesn't have eleventy billion dollars worth of stuff. he more or less has eleventy billion dollars of credit. There is no way for the government to even seize any of that.
3. There are 802 billionaires, worth 6.22 trillion. assuming each got to keep a billion dollars the government steals less than 5.5 trillion. that's not even enough to run our country for a year. so I am not sure what this accomplishes besides just being spiteful. assuming it actually worked with some type of mass asset seizure for the total amount
4. as soon as this tax was announced all of that "credit" would disappear. and you would have the IRS trying to pin people down for money they never actually had. Kinda like Trump being a billionaire, look at the financials and he "only" has a couple hundred million. pretty much every single one of them are the same. its money/value/wealth on paper only, or now digital. yeah the super super super rich will have a billion dollars of something, but it won't be anywhere close to the 802 you are hoping to hit.
5. what assets they do have worth anywhere close to that amount would be their businesses. Bezos with Amazon, Musk with Tesla/SpaceX, Waltons with Walmart, so on and so forth. Issue here is multiple: a) they aren't sole owners, so if the government wanted to seize the company they would be hitting far more than the top guys. b) they would be seizing a company, which would immediately lose most of its projected value once it was in the hands of the government, c) it would be nationalizing businesses which leads to the last point
6. the rich would likely just shut down most of whatever is creating that value. the government seizing or nationalizing a business is a sure way to run it into the ground and ruin the value of these mega corps, which would hit the average american super fast. Imagine no-Amazon, no Walmart. that is really what this tax would do, the rich would go on living life just as they are, but we are left suffering, or worse off, with nothing to show for it.

lawyers and CPAs would be the only people to benefit from this.
This proposal is a tax on “earnings”, not wealth tax.

He has different proposals for a “wealth” tax.
 
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This proposal is a tax on “earnings”, not wealth tax.

He has different proposals for a “wealth” tax.
which is why I pointed in the first post, that no one actually makes a billion dollars a year without some type of major merger or something like that.
 
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This is shocking I know, but threshold for the Wealth Tax keeps coming down… Now a married couple worth $32M would be subject.

Under his proposal, a married couple with a net worth of $32 million would have paid a 1% wealth tax.

Good thing @lawgator1 and @BowlBrother85 told us this was only for people worth much more.


That's different than the unrealized gains issue.
 
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Comrade Sanders strikes again. The guy literally took his wife to the Soviet Union for their honeymoon, Strait up commie, legit.
 
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That's different than the unrealized gains issue.
Yea, an entirely different tax. You guys do love your taxes…

When the Wealth Tax was being discussed, were you not one that commented it “was only for” those with net worth north of the $100M threshold?
 
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which is why I pointed in the first post, that no one actually makes a billion dollars a year without some type of major merger or something like that.
Whether an income tax on earnings in excess of $1B would actually raise any revenue is another aspect of this lunacy.

It’s all bananas. Being thrown out by a bunch of circus monkeys.

100% Income Tax
Net Worth Wealth Tax
Unrealized Gains Tax

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Yea, an entirely different tax. You guys do love your taxes…

When the Wealth Tax was being discussed, were you not one that commented it “was only for” those with net worth north of the $100M threshold?


I believe my comment was directed at the issue of taxing unrealized gains, specifically.
 
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just like CC..Dems are such fools.
This net worth estimate of $2.5M is from 2019 and does not include the federal 401k he no doubt has.

His total net worth today is probably well north of $3.5M.

Monsters. They want to confiscate wealth at death. $3.5M estates is upper middle class families that worked hard, invested wisely, and accumulated assets

In January, he proposed new taxes on “the wealthiest 0.2 percent of Americans,” including a 45% tax on estates worth between $3.5 million and $10 million. Given his recent success, that tax might soon apply to his own fortune.

Wonder what he thinks the Death Tax rates should be for estates over $10M?
60%? 70%? Higher?
 
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