Best and Worst UT Football coaches

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(mattvols @ Apr 14 said:
Post who you think your best and worst coaches since Neyland
Best: Fulmer
Worst: Battle
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Battle was actually one of the better coaches we've ever had.
 
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(Jasongivm6 @ Apr 14 said:
Battle was actually one of the better coaches we've ever had.
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He was just owned by Bama and the Bear.Other than that he was fine. (Drink Milk).
 
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(Jasongivm6 @ Apr 13 said:
Battle was actually one of the better coaches we've ever had.
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That is the first time I have ever heard that! I have never heard anyone who sat through his tenure say a good thing about it.

Battle's records:
1970 11-1
1971 10-2
1972 10-2
1973 8-4
1974 7-3
1975 7-5
1976 6-5

Notice any trend? Seems he had his success with DD's players.

While I think Fulmer is near the top, I will still go with JM. Like him or hate him, he actually made UT football matter again. It took a few years but his work is what enabled Fulmer to take us to the next level.
 
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although majors had like 3 losing seasons, id still have to say the worst coaches would be like Harvey Robinson or Jim McDonald who were only good enough to be there 1-2 years

Fulmer would be the best
 
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(utvolpj @ Apr 14 said:
That is the first time I have ever heard that! I have never heard anyone who sat through his tenure say a good thing about it.

Battle's records:
1970 11-1
1971 10-2
1972 10-2
1973 8-4
1974 7-3
1975 7-5
1976 6-5

Notice any trend? Seems he had his success with DD's players.

While I think Fulmer is near the top, I will still go with JM. Like him or hate him, he actually made UT football matter again. It took a few years but his work is what enabled Fulmer to take us to the next level.
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I didn't realize Battle had taking such a downturn.
 
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It was slightly before my time, but I've always heard that Majors record in the late 70s is directly attributable to Battle setting the program back so far.

I'm sure Battle was and is a nice guy, but I can't imagine what was going through the AD's head when they decided to hand the reins of a top 10 program to a 28 year old?????
 
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(GAVol @ Apr 14 said:
It was slightly before my time, but I've always heard that Majors record in the late 70s is directly attributable to Battle setting the program back so far.

I'm sure Battle was and is a nice guy, but I can't imagine what was going through the AD's head when they decided to hand the reins of a top 10 program to a 28 year old?????
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Thats's why you have to respect what Majors did for the program.

 
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(utvolpj @ Apr 14 said:
That is the first time I have ever heard that! I have never heard anyone who sat through his tenure say a good thing about it.

Battle's records:
1970 11-1
1971 10-2
1972 10-2
1973 8-4
1974 7-3
1975 7-5
1976 6-5

Notice any trend? Seems he had his success with DD's players.

While I think Fulmer is near the top, I will still go with JM. Like him or hate him, he actually made UT football matter again. It took a few years but his work is what enabled Fulmer to take us to the next level.
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I didn't say he was the best. I said he was one of the better coaches we've ever had.


UT Coaching
 
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(Jasongivm6 @ Apr 14 said:
I didn't say he was the best. I said he was one of the better coaches we've ever had.
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But that still makes no sense. Take away the first three years of using DD's players and what did he accomplish? The only thing he did was drive UT down from a serious contender to a joke. It took years to rebuild.
 
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(utvolpj @ Apr 14 said:
But that still makes no sense. Take away the first three years of using DD's players and what did he accomplish? The only thing he did was drive UT down from a serious contender to a joke. It took years to rebuild.
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So, he's not the one that coached those players? So, we should take away the first 3 years and give DD the credit?
Did his players coach themselves? I guess FP is on the same path, then.


All kidding aside, I see what you're saying. But all I'm doing is comparing him to the other 20 UT coaches. He has a better win % than 14 out of the 20.

He may not be your favorite coach, but he's better than most we've had.
 
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General Neyland set the bar. He is the reason we have tradition and pride and why expectations are high to this day. Even though it was a different era he was among the elite during time. The late 1930's teams were invincible.
How many teams go unscored upon for all 10 regual season games? That is in 1939.
 
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No doubt that Fulmer is the best. He has taken us to a National Championship and has been there the longest.
 
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(utfantilidie @ Apr 14 said:
I didn't realize Battle had taking such a downturn.
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yeah thats why he was fired he won with someone elses team and lossed more, won less every year he was there. They stopped a downward spiral by firing him
 
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(mattvols @ Apr 14 said:
yeah thats why he was fired he won with someone elses team and lossed more, won less every year he was there. They stopped a downward spiral by firing him
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And paid the price for his hiring for many years.
 
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(mattvols @ Apr 14 said:
yeah thats why he was fired he won with someone elses team and lossed more, won less every year he was there. They stopped a downward spiral by firing him
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He won more games with Dickey's players than Dickey did.


That's not a very good argument anyways. That means that you think he only won "because he had better players that Dickey left him." And then last year, we were so talented, that we were ranked #3 in the preseason, and went 5-6. Does that mean that Fulmer sucks? Would Battle have gone 11-1 because he had "Fulmer's" players?
 
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(mattvols @ Apr 14 said:
so you think he was a good coach?
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Compared to most UT coaches, Yes.

That's what the thread's about.


If I had to compare him to Tom Osbourne, I would say, No.
 
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we dont know what he would have done in more years, considering how much of a downward spiral he was in that didnt see like it was going to stop i dont think he was that great of a coach.
 
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(mattvols @ Apr 14 said:
we dont know what he would have done in more years, considering how much of a downward spiral he was in that didnt see like it was going to stop i dont think he was that great of a coach.
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The downward spiral started with Harvey Robinson
 
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losing one more, and wining one less every year sounds like a pretty even downward spiral to me, doug dickey had us head the right direction and Battle took us right down

Dickey:
64: 4-5-1
65: 8-1
66: 8-3
67: 9-2
68: 8-2
69: 9-2
 
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(mattvols @ Apr 14 said:
we dont know what he would have done in more years, considering how much of a downward spiral he was in that didnt see like it was going to stop i dont think he was that great of a coach.
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Then I would assume that you think most of the 20 head coaches we've had weren't very good coaches.


 
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(mattvols @ Apr 14 said:
losing one more, and wining one less every year sounds like a pretty even downward spiral to me, doug dickey had us head the right direction and Battle took us right down

Dickey:
64: 4-5-1
65: 8-1
66: 8-3
67: 9-2
68: 8-2
69: 9-2
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Dickey:

1964 4-5-1
1965 8-1-2
1966 8-3
1967 9-2
1968 9-2-1
1969 9-2







Battle :

1970 11-1
1971 10-2
1972 10-2
1973 8-4
1974 7-3
1975 7-5
1976 6-5

Majors:

1977 4-7
1978 5-5-1
1979 7-5
1980 5-6
1981 8-4
1982 6-5-1
1983 9-3
1984 7-4
1985 9-1-2
1986 7-5
1987 10-2-1
1988 5-6
1989 11-1
1990 9-2-2
1991 9-3
1992 5-3



And then Majors took us down further, lifted us back up a little, and then down further, and then back up, and then further, and then Fulmer comes along with his "bell-shaped" curve record.
 
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