Best place to get developed for NFL

#3
#3
The logic in that research is severely strained. Basically they're saying that even though the SEC produces more draftees than anyone else, the expectations to produce that talent are so high that the SEC isn't the best conference to make it to the NFL. Makes no sense.
 
#7
#7
The logic isn't strained, it's broken. The SEC is the place to get noticed, precisely because of the competition and expectation.
 
#10
#10
WesternKyVol said:
It seemed logical to me. Can someone break down why the study is so flawed?
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I find it fairly unlikely the SEC is the second worst conference at developing offensive talent. I laugh at the idea the SEC is the second worst developing defensive talent.
 
#11
#11
That data seemed like my final data presentation in school. My group had no data, so I made it up. I think my bs data on the possible target audience for the first Saturn coupe was better than the data on the link.
 
#12
#12
pl3 said:
That data seemed like my final data presentation in school. My group had no data, so I made it up. I think my bs data on the possible target audience for the first Saturn coupe was better than the data on the link.
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Lol I had to give a presentation at the science fair in 7th grade. Didn't do any of the work or research anything, so I just made it up. Ended up getting first place and had to present it at some county wide science fair. Yeah, I was sick that day. Funny how that works lol
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#13
#13
The SEC had 44 more players drafted into the NFL than the Big 10, but is considered to be worse at getting players into the NFL, wut?

I understand what he's doing with the numbers to make the Big 10 look better, but with all their superior player development, they're still not winning championships.

I imagine the data is fine, no reason to really dispute it imho, but the conclusion that you're more likely to make it into the NFL in the Big 10 is flat out wrong. The drafted numbers blow that out of the water.
 
#14
#14
kptvol said:
I find it fairly unlikely the SEC is the second worst conference at developing offensive talent. I laugh at the idea the SEC is the second worst developing defensive talent.
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HawaiiVol said:
The SEC had 44 more players drafted into the NFL than the Big 10, but is considered to be worse at getting players into the NFL, wut?

I understand what he's doing with the numbers to make the Big 10 look better, but with all their superior player development, they're still not winning championships.

I imagine the data is fine, no reason to really dispute it imho, but the conclusion that you're more likely to make it into the NFL in the Big 10 is flat out wrong. The drafted numbers blow that out of the water.
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But the point is to compare apples to apples and it seems like the article does that. The idea is that if I am a player of a given caliber --i.e. stars by rivals-- then I will have a better chance of making it through my four years of college and getting drafted if I go to certain schools.

The Big 10 teams are not getting the recruits that the SEC gets due to geography, money, etc. But I don't think the numbers lie. They are not getting as many chances as the SEC, but they are "converting" those chances at a better rate. If I were to guess the reason I would say that it is not because there is something intrinsically better about the programs themselves, but instead, that the backgrounds of the kids are better and that they are more likely to have a good work ethic and not get arrested.
 
#15
#15
WesternKyVol said:
But the point is to compare apples to apples and it seems like the article does that. The idea is that if I am a player of a given caliber --i.e. stars by rivals-- then I will have a better chance of making it through my four years of college and getting drafted if I go to certain schools.

The Big 10 teams are not getting the recruits that the SEC gets due to geography, money, etc. But I don't think the numbers lie. They are not getting as many chances as the SEC, but they are "converting" those chances at a better rate. If I were to guess the reason I would say that it is not because there is something intrinsically better about the programs themselves, but instead, that the backgrounds of the kids are better and that they are more likely to have a good work ethic and not get arrested.
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There's also the thought that it's easier to stand out, get noticed, and thus get drafted if there's fewer NFL-level players around you. It may not be that there's actually better development.
 
#16
#16
Best part of the article:


Stars Matter

One of the great debates every recruiting season is over the importance of recruiting rankings. One one side are the recruitniks talking up the top names, and on the other side the "stars don't matter" crowd. And there's evidence both ways: schools with better recruiting classes do outperform their more recruit-challenged brethren, but certain schools consistently punch above their recruiting weight on the football field. So let's start by getting one thing straight, stars do matter, even if they aren't everything.

Recruiting Stars . Percent drafted . Average draft position
★★ 4.9% 143 (5th rd)
★★★ 8.1% 124 (late 4th)
★★★★ 16.7% 107 (early 4th)
★★★★★ 38.0% 81 (3rd rd)
 
#19
#19
if you are an nfl player you will get found at virtually any bcs program. love seeing cal in the top-5 despite not a single rose bowl to show for it. :censored:
 
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