Biden admin diverting funds from farmers

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hog88 said:
It's time to let farmers sink or swim on their own. Remove all price controls, price supports and subsidies and let the rough side drag.

In reality what Biden is doing is just another payoff to his biggest supporters. You'd be surprised who owns "farmland".
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The people putting corn in our gas. Wouldnt be surprised to see more of that coming.
 
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hog88 said:
It's time to let farmers sink or swim on their own. Remove all price controls, price supports and subsidies and let the rough side drag.

In reality what Biden is doing is just another payoff to his biggest supporters. You'd be surprised who owns "farmland".
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And then wait to see how long it takes to fill up a shelf with groceries for those who depend on said farmers to eat every day. The corn and taters just don't magically appear.
 
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Funny thing though?

Farms tend to do a lot more for lowering carbon in our atmosphere than tossing money at pet projects. I saw an article since time back that the "Corn Belt" actuality has as much affect on the weather as a rain forest.

By killing farms, you actually kill natural carbon scrubbers.
 
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GVF said:
And then wait to see how long it takes to fill up a shelf with groceries for those who depend on said farmers to eat every day. The corn and taters just don't magically appear.
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Grocery stores would remain stocked, prices initially would spike quite high then level off. Food would definitely be much higher than it is now and within a few years control of our food supply would be consolidated with a small number of corporations but hey it's the free market. Another benefit is that farmers couldn't be used as a political football by faux conservative or liberals.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Funny thing though?

Farms tend to do a lot more for lowering carbon in our atmosphere than tossing money at pet projects. I saw an article since time back that the "Corn Belt" actuality has as much affect on the weather as a rain forest.

By killing farms, you actually kill natural carbon scrubbers.
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Very true. Farms are also are a net payer when it comes to property taxes for the county.
 
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hog88 said:
Grocery stores would remain stocked, prices initially would spike quite high then level off. Food would definitely be much higher than it is now and within a few years control of our food supply would be consolidated with a small number of corporations but hey it's the free market. Another benefit is that farmers couldn't be used as a political football by faux conservative or liberals.
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Food already is controlled by a small number of corporations.
 
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hog88 said:
Grocery stores would remain stocked, prices initially would spike quite high then level off. Food would definitely be much higher than it is now and within a few years control of our food supply would be consolidated with a small number of corporations but hey it's the free market. Another benefit is that farmers couldn't be used as a political football by faux conservative or liberals.
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Should there be some sort of advisory council which outlines what crop ratios are ideal so that we don't get too much of one and not enough of the other?
 
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McDad said:
Should there be some sort of advisory council which outlines what crop ratios are ideal so that we don't get too much of one and not enough of the other?
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"Planned economy."

That sounds vaguely familiar...
 
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Grand Vol said:
Food already is controlled by a small number of corporations.
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True but it will get even worse. There are still avenues for small farmers can get around the big guys, there are still coops that are farmer owned. What would end up happening is a Monsanto type company would end up with not only the seed stock but the land to produce. They could then set the prices they want once the land is gobbled up.
 
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I need more hog farmers selling to Jimmy Dean. Kroger can't keep my sausage & biscuit on the shelves now.
My Kroger store down the street stays completely out week after week. Coffee & sausage biscuit in the mornings.
 
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Grand Vol said:
"Planned economy."

That sounds vaguely familiar...
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Negative, Ghostrider.

If a pure capitalistic approach to farming was adopted, I think we would want to make sure not everyone went after the expected high dollar crop which would crash the price for the crop and create lack of supply on others.

Exception: Kale. We can discontinue the kale crop.
 
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hog88 said:
True but it will get even worse. There are still avenues for small farmers can get around the big guys, there are still coops that are farmer owned. What would end up happening is a Monsanto type company would end up with not only the seed stock but the land to produce. They could then set the prices they want once the land is gobbled up.
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Sure, the individual farms and whatnot are privately owned. But the processing, distribution and sales are controlled by a select few.
 
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McDad said:
Negative, Ghostrider.

If a pure capitalistic approach to farming was adopted, I think we would want to make sure not everyone when after the expected high dollar crop which would crash the price for the crop and create lack of supply on others.

Exception: Kale. We can discontinue the kale crop.
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Look, McStalin, I know what you're trying to do here.
 
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McDad said:
Negative, Ghostrider.

If a pure capitalistic approach to farming was adopted, I think we would want to make sure not everyone when after the expected high dollar crop which would crash the price for the crop and create lack of supply on others.

Exception: Kale. We can discontinue the kale crop.
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If we adopted a pure capitalistic approach to our food supply within 10 years you wouldn't have to worry about crop prices crashing. The corps that own the means of production through distribution would produce only at profitable levels. It would be like factories, they only produce what they can sell and they produce only enough to ensure prices remain where they want them.
 
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hog88 said:
True but it will get even worse. There are still avenues for small farmers can get around the big guys, there are still coops that are farmer owned. What would end up happening is a Monsanto type company would end up with not only the seed stock but the land to produce. They could then set the prices they want once the land is gobbled up.
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My step son works for a seed company. He works with tomato growers, watermelons, green beans, etc. Some of these farms south of Miami out in Fla City have single fields that are 8-10 miles long and 3-5 miles wide.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Sure, the individual farms and whatnot are privately owned. But the processing, distribution and sales are controlled by a select few.
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Correct and what I'm saying is these processors and distribution will gobble up the land to control the production also.
 
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