Big 12 Joins SEC In Favor of 4 Best Teams Playoff

[Tux]

The Big 12 continue to be the SEC's dance partner as they announced that they support a playoff of the four best teams in the nation.

This was big kick in the nads for Jim Delaney and Larry Scott

Big 12 In Favor Of 4 Best Team Playoff

“Our league has been consistent that if you’re going to have a four-team playoff that the best four teams ought to be selected to play for the national championship,” Slive said. “If the issue is how teams are selected, then let’s go and talk about the selection process and make the selection process more palatable to everybody rather than try to gerrymander who the top four teams are.--Mike Slive

 

[TrueOrange]

I kind oh feel like that was going to be a given; like part of the purpose of the whole "champions" bowl agreement was also politicking to get a support partner for the SEC's view

(and especially since it came a few/several days after the league's usual support partner, the ACC, changed sides and announced it would be supporting a conference champions only model)

 

[ukvols]

I hope the playoff system makes a clean break from the heavy anchor called the bowl system.

 

[milohimself]

The Big 12 continue to be the SEC's dance partner as they announced that they support a playoff of the four best teams in the nation.

This was big kick in the nads for Jim Delaney and Larry Scott

Big 12 In Favor Of 4 Best Team Playoff

There are more than four voices that matter in this debate, and the SEC and Big XII are the only voices on that side.

Bowlsby and Slive in for one rude damned awakening if they think that's how it's going to play out.

I am starting to have serious doubts that a playoff plan will be hammered out.

 

[vol66]

There are more than four voices that matter in this debate, and the SEC and Big XII are the only voices on that side.

Bowlsby and Slive in for one rude damned awakening if they think that's how it's going to play out.

I am starting to have serious doubts that a playoff plan will be hammered out.

based on what?

 

[Vercingetorix]

I'm against it. I want all conference champions. If you don't like it, win your damn conference. Alabama lost to LSU on their home field last year in what was supposed to be an elimination game. I don't want to see do-overs.

The nice thing about doing all conference champions is that you can then add some kind of a bonus consideration to OOC schedule for seeding purposes, encouraging great September OOC games to continue. LSU whipped WVU on their home field? Plus two points, or whatever, towards making them a top seed and getting to play the 4 seed in the first round.

 

[bamawriter]

The nice thing about doing all conference champions is that you can then add some kind of a bonus consideration to OOC schedule for seeding purposes, encouraging great September OOC games to continue. LSU whipped WVU on their home field? Plus two points, or whatever, towards making them a top seed and getting to play the 4 seed in the first round.

The exact opposite will happen. If it's only going to be open to conference champions, and it's going to be at neutral sites, then there is no incentive to schedule good OOC opponents. If it was an eight or sixteen team playoff, there might be some incentive to earning a higher seed. But there is very little difference between 1 and 4 most years, so it really doesn't matter who you draw.

The champions only model is a terrible idea, and the SEC and Big XII need to stick to their guns.

 

[BJWeeks]

I wish they would have 4 16 team conferences and the top 2 in each conference goes to 8 team playoff.

 

[StoVol]

The exact opposite will happen. If it's only going to be open to conference champions, and it's going to be at neutral sites, then there is no incentive to schedule good OOC opponents. If it was an eight or sixteen team playoff, there might be some incentive to earning a higher seed. But there is very little difference between 1 and 4 most years, so it really doesn't matter who you draw.

The champions only model is a terrible idea, and the SEC and Big XII need to stick to their guns.

It's a terrible idea if you're unable to win your conference .

 

[Vercingetorix]

The exact opposite will happen. If it's only going to be open to conference champions, and it's going to be at neutral sites, then there is no incentive to schedule good OOC opponents. If it was an eight or sixteen team playoff, there might be some incentive to earning a higher seed. But there is very little difference between 1 and 4 most years, so it really doesn't matter who you draw.

The champions only model is a terrible idea, and the SEC and Big XII need to stick to their guns.

You are married to this model because you got a rematch you didn't deserve after you lost what was supposed to be an elimination game on your own field. LSU shouldn't have had to play Alabama again any more than FSU should have had a Florida rematch rammed down their throats in 1996.

If the selection and seeding of teams is done by a committee, let's say, and that committee let it be known ahead of time that they would weigh good OOC wins especially heavily when picking who the 4th team in the tournament was, seeding, etc., then you'd see all the top teams scrambling to add one good OOC game to their schedule every year. Under that scenario, it's all upside to playing good OOC games and very little downside.

 

[milohimself]

BCSMNC = BCS mulligan national championship

 

[UTRavens]

The exact opposite will happen. If it's only going to be open to conference champions, and it's going to be at neutral sites, then there is no incentive to schedule good OOC opponents. If it was an eight or sixteen team playoff, there might be some incentive to earning a higher seed. But there is very little difference between 1 and 4 most years, so it really doesn't matter who you draw.

The champions only model is a terrible idea, and the SEC and Big XII need to stick to their guns.

Actually, there will be more incentive to schedule good OOC opponents. The reason why programs don't schedule them as often now is because they're afraid it could knock them out of the NC picture. Take that risk away and teams wouldn't be afraid to add more good opponents.

 

[tim]

Funny how the Big 10 wants the conference champ model now that they play a confernce championship. Im generally against what the Big 10 is lobbying for. Delany makes it easier for me to dislike their confernce.

 

[milohimself]

Funny how the Big 10 wants the conference champ model now that they play a confernce championship. Im generally against what the Big 10 is lobbying for. Delany makes it easier for me to dislike their confernce.

That made no sense.

This whole episode has given me plenty of opportunities to lulz at southerners hating on yanks for reasons they're not fully capable of articulating.

 

[tim]

That made no sense.

This whole episode has given me plenty of opportunities to lulz at southerners hating on yanks for reasons they're not fully capable of articulating.

Maybe its your limited comprhension skills.

 

[milohimself]

I understood the post just fine. What makes no sense is saying the Big Ten playing a conference championship game affects whether or not they would want a conference champions-only playoff.

 

[tim]

I understood the post just fine. What makes no sense is saying the Big Ten playing a conference championship game affects whether or not they would want a conference champions-only playoff.

Simply making an observation. You think that playing a conference championship has no bearing on their idea for the playoff and I think it does. I recall a situation in the not so distant past where OSU defeated UM in the final game of the season and a lot of Big 10'ers wanted the rematch. Thinking this is some kind of "southern" inferiority complex" issue is retarded.

 

[milohimself]

Simply making an observation. You think that playing a conference championship has no bearing on their idea for the playoff and I think it does. I recall a situation in the not so distant past where OSU defeated UM in the final game of the season and a lot of Big 10'ers wanted the rematch. Thinking this is some kind of "southern" inferiority complex" issue is retarded.

That was a very different situation, and Florida was a far more viable alternative than Okie Lite last year. Their one loss was narrow on the road to Auburn who was no slouch that year, not a middling Iowa State team.

Either way, I don't see how there being a conference championship game changed the situation.