black male code

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RespectTradition

RespectTradition

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Have any of you heard this term before?

It appears to be a body of knowledge passed from parents to their black male children that is meant to help them stay safe in a dangerous world.

Trayvon Martin, my son, and the Black Male Code *| ajc.com
As I explained it, the Code goes like this:

Always pay close attention to your surroundings, son, especially if you are in an affluent neighborhood where black folks are few. Understand that even though you are not a criminal, some people might assume you are, especially if you are wearing certain clothes.

Never argue with police, but protect your dignity and take pride in humility. When confronted by someone with a badge or a gun, do not flee, fight, or put your hands anywhere other than up.

Please don't assume, son, that all white people view you as a threat. America is better than that. Suspicion and bitterness can imprison you. But as a black male, you must go above and beyond to show strangers what type of person you really are.
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I was wondering what ya'll thought.

Is this the result of paranoia that the system is out to get them?

Is this a natural reaction to racism inherent to the system?

Are young black men judged too harshly?

Do people assume they are dangerous because of racism?

Do people assume they are dangerous because of crime statistics?

Is there a solution?

Do young black men act in ways that serve to perpetuate the way they are perceived?

What can we do?

The situation is not good. We need to live in a color-blind world. Or rather, we need to be able to see how hot Halle Berry is because of that beautiful skin and we need to not be afraid when we run into a man that looks like Ray Lewis on a street at night. We aren't there, and I think that there is enough blame to go around. How do we fix it?
 
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Paranoia caused by racial prejudices, it seems. Hell, I act the weird in foreign neighborhoods. I once got lost on the south side of Chicago...
 
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RespectTradition said:
Have any of you heard this term before?

It appears to be a body of knowledge passed from parents to their black male children that is meant to help them stay safe in a dangerous world.

Trayvon Martin, my son, and the Black Male Code *| ajc.com


I was wondering what ya'll thought.

Is this the result of paranoia that the system is out to get them?

Is this a natural reaction to racism inherent to the system?

Are young black men judged too harshly?

Do people assume they are dangerous because of racism?

Do people assume they are dangerous because of crime statistics?

Is there a solution?

Do young black men act in ways that serve to perpetuate the way they are perceived?

What can we do?

The situation is not good. We need to live in a color-blind world. Or rather, we need to be able to see how hot Halle Berry is because of that beautiful skin and we need to not be afraid when we run into a man that looks like Ray Lewis on a street at night. We aren't there, and I think that there is enough blame to go around. How do we fix it?
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It's common sense for black men. It is not a fair world. So why would you reinforce the stereotypes that some people have about you (black male) by wearing sagging pants, braids/dreads, hoodies, tats, ear rings, etc.

A woman that wears slut clothes will be treated like a slut. A man that wears a cop uniform will be treated like a cop. A man that dresses like a typical ni**a...

I'm just saying.

[Yeah, I went there]
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It's common sense for black men. It is not a fair world. So why would you reinforce the stereotypes that some people have about you (black male) by wearing sagging pants, braids/dreads, hoodies, tats, ear rings, etc.

A woman that wears slut clothes will be treated like a slut. A man that wears a cop uniform will be treated like a cop. A man that dresses like a typical ni**a...

I'm just saying.

[Yeah, I went there]
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Are you saying that you shouldn't shave your head and get a swastika tattoo if you don't want to be treated like a scary psycho sob?

I agree to an extent.

At the same time, I do not believe that the clothes make the man. A woman should be able to walk down the street naked and not be raped. (I know you didn't say they should) I am responsible for what I do, for what I say and for what I think.
 
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My father taught me pretty much the same things. He knew there were "those" people out there, but didn't categorize them as "whites" or "hispanics"

The way I look at it, yes black men are judged too harshly in some cases, BUT it does not help when you turn on the TV and see your favorite rapper getting arrested for drugs or gun charges.

I think there is a solution but it starts in the black community. There is a mentality in the average black teenager who grew up in harsh conditions, and the people who surround us fill our heads with THEIR solutions. That's being violent towards each other, the only way out is selling drugs, etc. This mentality has to change.
 
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I judge people by the amount of taxes they pay... Pay no taxes= pos
Pay taxes=luv ya
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It's common sense for black men. It is not a fair world. So why would you reinforce the stereotypes that some people have about you (black male) by wearing sagging pants, braids/dreads, hoodies, tats, ear rings, etc.

A woman that wears slut clothes will be treated like a slut. A man that wears a cop uniform will be treated like a cop. A man that dresses like a typical ni**a...

I'm just saying.

[Yeah, I went there]
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RespectTradition said:
Are you saying that you shouldn't shave your head and get a swastika tattoo if you don't want to be treated like a scary psycho sob?

I agree to an extent.

At the same time, I do not believe that the clothes make the man. A woman should be able to walk down the street naked and not be raped. (I know you didn't say they should) I am responsible for what I do, for what I say and for what I think.
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you both are right. Unfortunately, RT, people don't think like you. I was on vacation and didn't shave for a week. Wore a black skull cap and jacket cause it was winter and then went to the mall with my wife and her best friend who are white. Every store we went into a salesperson greeted me, watched me and and would repeatedly ask if I needed help. My wife and her friend were generally ignored and left alone.

My wife once worked at Belk. I'd go in to say hello and be dressed like I was straight from the Gap and Old Navy and security would follow me every time I went in the store. Once the store manager came over to my wife and asked her if everything was okay. My wife set sales records simply because her coworkers refused to assist any customer that wasn't white.

I could go on and on.

In my experience the people who are color blind are the minority on both sides of the race issue.
 
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I can understand "black code" but I do not feel it is a complete indictment on whitey. Black culture speaking in general formalities is precedented on glorifying "thug" or "gangster" behavior.. not all black culture but a signficant portion of the whole. This makes whitey want to sh*t their pants. Statistics do not lie, if black culture wants to reach a day where they are not deemed threats to society they have to start within.
 
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RespectTradition said:
Is this the result of paranoia that the system is out to get them?

Somewhat. But it is based in empirical experience.

Is this a natural reaction to racism inherent to the system?

Somewhat. Its a reality.

Are young black men judged too harshly?

Depends on the man. But there are some stereotypes that cause people to assume some things about others, until proven differently on a case by case basis.

Do people assume they are dangerous because of racism?

Yes, but also because of the stereotypes, which I view as somewhat distinct.

Do people assume they are dangerous because of crime statistics?

They assume so based on what they believe the statistics show, which supports the stereotyping, even though one cannot thereby conclude that young black men are more likely to commit crime because they are black.


Is there a solution?

Time.

Do young black men act in ways that serve to perpetuate the way they are perceived?

Some do. It is fashionable at a young age to be proud, even if it means feeding the stereotypes.

What can we do?

Time will cause the stereotypes to fade, as it has with other stereotypes concerning minorities. I don't think there is an artificial means to deal with the issue. Just time.
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Questions answered correctly itp.
 
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JayVols said:
You must hate GE then.
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First of all the question is whether or not they paid US taxes. They certainly paid taxes.

Second, they will pay US taxes for 2010:

Unfortunately, for all its good work, the Times story has created at least one major misperception -- that GE paid no U.S. income taxes last year and is actually getting a $3.2 billion refund from the Treasury.

Did GE get a $3.2 billion tax refund? No.

Did GE pay U.S. income taxes in 2010? Yes, it paid estimated taxes for 2010, and also made payments for previous years. Think of it as your having paid withholding taxes on your salary in 2010, and sending the IRS a check on April 15, 2010, covering your balance owed for 2009.

Will GE ultimately pay U.S. income taxes for 2010? After much to-ing and fro-ing -- the company says it hasn't completed its 2010 tax return -- GE now says that it will pay tax.
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Setting The Record Straight on GE’s Taxes - ProPublica
 
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possumslayer said:
yes
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Lol. Good answer. None of you all took the bait. Just trying to stir a bit today.:thumbsup:

Interesting article on GE. Will look into further and verify the info if possible. Have a good one guys.

Edit: I see ProPublica is an investigative journalism firm ran by financiers and Wall Street Journal editors. Not saying their information is wrong, but I will take with more than a grain of salt until I can look into the issue further.
 
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JayVols said:
Lol. Good answer. None of you all took the bait. Just trying to stir a bit today.:thumbsup:

Interesting article on GE. Will look into further and verify the info if possible. Have a good one guys.

Edit: I see ProPublica is an investigative journalism firm ran by financiers and Wall Street Journal editors. Not saying their information is wrong, but I will take with more than a grain of salt until I can look into the issue further.
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My sister is a controller for GE and she assured me the claims are false (wouldn't be the first time NY Times missed by a lot). This was just the first article I found. I don't really like GE, but the stuff about them not paying taxes is stupid. I'm much more concerned with how much power and influence they have in politics.
 
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n_huffhines said:
My sister is a controller for GE and she assured me the claims are false (wouldn't be the first time NY Times missed by a lot). This was just the first article I found. I don't really like GE, but the stuff about them not paying taxes is stupid. I'm much more concerned with how much power and influence they have in politics.
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Good points. One of my pet peeves is corporations as well as special interest groups employing legalized bribery to gain influence over political matters. Was their an issue about GE's overseas profits as well?
 
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