Blind Draw

#3
#3
Dadof2Vols said:
I would rather see them go to coaches poll and 16 teams and no conference guarantees.
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They can't do that or the CCG's become officially meaningless. They are superfluous right now, but at least they can gin up some interest in the games due to the bye being the carrot.

You guys who are coming up with better and more efficient ways of doing a playoff are missing the entire point. This is not, and never was intended to be a way of figuring out who are the best 12 teams and identifying a champion. If it was there would be a dozen better ways of doing it than the beauty pageant they came up with.

The auto bids with byes insures that the CCG's will have some interest, and having a "committee" choose the teams and the bracket gives the power brokers - the conferences, mainly the Big 10 and SEC, and ESPN - control over the product. This is why you get Penn State and Notre Dame with advantageous draws, the setting up of a big money Ohio State-Oregon rematch (which we can spoil), and a likely final four made up of Ohio State or Oregon, Notre Dame or Alabama, Texas or Georgia, and Penn State. The power brokers win with any of these scenarios.
 
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16 team playoff.
conference champ gets auto bit (not going away because they aren't getting rid of conf. champ games). you get whatever seed you're ranked.
revamp computer system to updated bcs version. all of the new tech has to be able to come up with good system.

or just give a rep from every top 25 school 1 minute to plead their case and have a live fan vote.....lets get wild hahaha
 
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sami said:
They can't do that or the CCG's become officially meaningless. They are superfluous right now, but at least they can gin up some interest in the games due to the bye being the carrot.
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As of right now, here are the options for a team, considering the CCG. This is really just for Big Ten and SEC only. Lower conferences most likely won't have 2 teams in the CCG game in the top 12:

1. Finish 3rd in your conference and hopefully make the playoffs. 3 week break.
2. Finish 1/2 in your conference, win the CCG, and earn a bye. 3 week break.
3. Finish 1/2 in your conference, lose the CCG, potentially be kicked from the playoffs. 2 week break.

Why is the CCG actually important? Is the bye a carrot, if you have to play in the CCG week? Not really. You don't earn extra rest compared to those that don't play in that game, and you certainly have more to lose if you lose the CCG.
 
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A blind draw may be what they’re using already. We really don’t know how they’re coming up with the seeding.

I know 11 vs 6 looks no more one-sided than 8 vs 9. That is terribly wrong.
 
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So the regular session is essentially meaningless? Nah
 
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sami said:
They can't do that or the CCG's become officially meaningless. They are superfluous right now, but at least they can gin up some interest in the games due to the bye being the carrot.

You guys who are coming up with better and more efficient ways of doing a playoff are missing the entire point. This is not, and never was intended to be a way of figuring out who are the best 12 teams and identifying a champion. If it was there would be a dozen better ways of doing it than the beauty pageant they came up with.

The auto bids with byes insures that the CCG's will have some interest, and having a "committee" choose the teams and the bracket gives the power brokers - the conferences, mainly the Big 10 and SEC, and ESPN - control over the product. This is why you get Penn State and Notre Dame with advantageous draws, the setting up of a big money Ohio State-Oregon rematch (which we can spoil), and a likely final four made up of Ohio State or Oregon, Notre Dame or Alabama, Texas or Georgia, and Penn State. The power brokers win with any of these scenarios.
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I’m not missing the point.

The point is $$$$$$$$$.

I was just stating who ought to be saying who is in the playoffs. The coaches poll is usually better than committees.

I’m not for using an computer because they typically add in the writers poll which is heavily biased North.

The current SOR relies to heavily on beauty pagent wins like oh I won against the nuns school 9 times or I beat PSU who has beaten no one. The current SOR is heavily flawed.
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
I’m not missing the point.

The point is $$$$$$$$$.

I was just stating who ought to be saying who is in the playoffs. The coaches poll is usually better than committees.

I’m not for using an computer because they typically add in the writers poll which is heavily biased North.

The current SOR relies to heavily on beauty pagent wins like oh I won against the nuns school 9 times or I beat PSU who has beaten no one. The current SOR is heavily flawed.
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We agree on the point, but the Big 10 and SEC want to control the narrative, and since Sankey sold us out to go in business with the Big 10 due to them controlling the big media markets, we are on an equal level with a league that has two good teams, two pretenders, and a lot of dreck.

Why they even bother pandering to the ACC, Big 12, and G5 is anyone's guess.

Honestly, I'd be much happier with the SEC playing a 10-game conference schedule with two cupcake games per school, then having a 4-team playoff and crowning a champion. Screw the rest of CFB - I have no need to see mediocre Big 10 teams getting favorable treatment.
 
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mrmax86 said:
As of right now, here are the options for a team, considering the CCG. This is really just for Big Ten and SEC only. Lower conferences most likely won't have 2 teams in the CCG game in the top 12:

1. Finish 3rd in your conference and hopefully make the playoffs. 3 week break.
2. Finish 1/2 in your conference, win the CCG, and earn a bye. 3 week break.
3. Finish 1/2 in your conference, lose the CCG, potentially be kicked from the playoffs. 2 week break.

Why is the CCG actually important? Is the bye a carrot, if you have to play in the CCG week? Not really. You don't earn extra rest compared to those that don't play in that game, and you certainly have more to lose if you lose the CCG.
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I agree 100% that the CCG's are superfluous with the playoff, but they will never give up the CCG revenue, so they had to create this 'bye' deal to generate viewer interest.

It's idiotic, as you point out in detail, but the Rule #1 when it comes to any policy change in pro or big time college sports - there will never be a policy or rule change that adversely affects revenue. Revenue is always the first and often only consideration in any change. I am yet to see a single policy change that goes against Rule #1.
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
I would rather see them go to coaches poll and 16 teams and no conference guarantees.
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average of coaches and AP poll maybe? but another round of playoffs would be good I agree and no guarantees for conference champions
 
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Heck if we went to 20, #22 would argue they are better than #19.

I would prefer games be played at neutral sites

And ceding be blind draw. The one we are scheduled for is three of the top5 5 teams, Alabama has a cake walk
 
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They screwed to pooch when they made super conference to get a true champion every team should play each other.
 
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#16
They screwed to pooch when they made super conference to get a true champion every team should play each other.
 
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#18
They screwed to pooch when they made super conference to get a true champion every team should play each other.
 
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