Bob Sanders

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You could have made an argument for several Colt players.
 
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He had a forced fumble and an INT. However, I think he also missed a tackled on Thomas Jones that led to a 50 yard gain and an eventual TD. Still, he had a good game.
 
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mattvols said:
personally i think he should have been MVP
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we all know i'm anti-peyton, so i want to preface my opinion with this. Peyton played a heck of a game, other than one HUGE blemish by totally missing the safety he played almost mistake free. congrats to him. he finally got that monkey off his back. he's proven me wrong.

that being said, sanders or even more so Rhodes IMO, deserved MVP. peyton did nothing worthy of MVP except play smart.
 
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volfanbill said:
we all know i'm anti-peyton, so i want to preface my opinion with this. Peyton played a heck of a game, other than one HUGE blemish by totally missing the safety he played almost mistake free. congrats to him. he finally got that monkey off his back. he's proven me wrong.

that being said, sanders or even more so Rhodes IMO, deserved MVP. peyton did nothing worthy of MVP except play smart.
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I don't think anyone on the Colts team had a supremely outstanding game. The whole team just played pretty well. Manning was as deserving as anyone. Rhodes played pretty well, but I think he was helped by the Bears' concern with the passing game.

As for Peyton playing smart, he had no reason to do anything spectacular. If it were necessary to do something more impressive in order to win the game, he would have done it. Watch the AFC championship.
 
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volfanbill said:
we all know i'm anti-peyton, so i want to preface my opinion with this. Peyton played a heck of a game, other than one HUGE blemish by totally missing the safety he played almost mistake free. congrats to him. he finally got that monkey off his back. he's proven me wrong.

that being said, sanders or even more so Rhodes IMO, deserved MVP. peyton did nothing worthy of MVP except play smart.
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i think the playing smart was what did it. and taking in to consideration he calls the vast majority of the playes, a good reason why Rhodes had the game he did was because of Manning........i'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, because i would have voted for Sanders personally, but i understand why he gets the nod....
 
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jakez4ut said:
i think the playing smart was what did it. and taking in to consideration he calls the vast majority of the playes, a good reason why Rhodes had the game he did was because of Manning........i'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, because i would have voted for Sanders personally, but i understand why he gets the nod....
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i may be going out on a limb here, but me and some of my buddies i've made up here even talked about it. we've decided that he's not as big on calling all the plays anymore. i think dungy and whoever the actual OC is at indy helped. i just find it interesting that peyton's never called the type of games he's been calling in the playoffs. like i said, it's out on a limb.
 
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Talk about a guy who changed that defense overnight. The Colts better make every effort to keep him in Indy.
 
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volfanbill said:
i may be going out on a limb here, but me and some of my buddies i've made up here even talked about it. we've decided that he's not as big on calling all the plays anymore. i think dungy and whoever the actual OC is at indy helped. i just find it interesting that peyton's never called the type of games he's been calling in the playoffs. like i said, it's out on a limb.
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From what I understand, on every snap he's given three or four plays and he picks one when he gets to the line of scrimmage and reads the defense.
 
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kptvol said:
From what I understand, on every snap he's given three or four plays and he picks one when he gets to the line of scrimmage and reads the defense.
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that's what it has been for the past few years. but i just find it odd, he's suddenly calm and willing to work for the td's instead of going for the juggular on every other play.
 
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volfanbill said:
that's what it has been for the past few years. but i just find it odd, he's suddenly calm and willing to work for the td's instead of going for the juggular on every other play.
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Maybe he just turned 30 and got more patient. I think losing Edge also may have made him decide to evaluate the way he calls his plays. He probably figured he would have to manage gameclocks with his shorter passes moreso than in the past.
 
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volfanbill said:
that's what it has been for the past few years. but i just find it odd, he's suddenly calm and willing to work for the td's instead of going for the juggular on every other play.
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i think that was a conscious choice on his part. to put his TEAM in the best chance to win. i think he finally has a team, and a defense, that has allowed him to change his thinking. he doesn't HAVE TO WIN the game on his own. he knows there's nothing wrong with punting with that defense. there's nothing wrong with getting a fg. he had a running game in the play offs.......makes all the difference.

kind of reminds me of Elway in his 1st SB win. Terrelll Davis was the MVP of that game if memory serves and was the primary reason why the Broncos won that game.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i think that was a conscious choice on his part. to put his TEAM in the best chance to win. i think he finally has a team, and a defense, that has allowed him to change his thinking. he doesn't HAVE TO WIN the game on his own. he knows there's nothing wrong with punting with that defense. there's nothing wrong with getting a fg. he had a running game in the play offs.......makes all the difference.
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if that is the case, he's elminated all the cases i have against him. He won the big game (although i gave the AFC Championship credit for the big game), beat the pats when it mattered, and finally beat a florida qb. I'm just still not completely sold on it. guess we'll see next year.
 
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volfanbill said:
if that is the case, he's elminated all the cases i have against him. He won the big game (although i gave the AFC Championship credit for the big game), beat the pats when it mattered, and finally beat a florida qb. I'm just still not completely sold on it. guess we'll see next year.
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what's left to sell? multiple league MVP's, passing title, passing records, TD season record.....yada, yada, yada.......you know, all the stats that got him the "captain stats" nickname.

now, he's got a super bowl championship. what else does he need to do? what will next year prove that hasn't already been proven?
 
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volfanbill said:
we all know i'm anti-peyton, so i want to preface my opinion with this. Peyton played a heck of a game, other than one HUGE blemish by totally missing the safety he played almost mistake free. congrats to him. he finally got that monkey off his back. he's proven me wrong.

that being said, sanders or even more so Rhodes IMO, deserved MVP. peyton did nothing worthy of MVP except play smart.
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I think several Colts were deserving but PM no less so.

To complete 66% in a driving rain storm, to check into the right play time and time again, to choose the open receiver or back consistently, to throw the short ball to backs and receivers in stride so they could move up field -- these are all examples of playing great.

It seems we have such high expectations of him that if he doesn't throw for 300+ and 3TD's, he's dogging it.
 
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I'll agree Volinbham. he finally wins the big game gets the monkey off his back and now some people want to wait and see what he does next yr. It doern't matter what he does next yr, love or hate him he is one of the best qb to ever play period.
 
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I have to give props to the entire Colts D-line. That was probably the deciding factor in the game, they helped Grossman make himself look awful.
 
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volinbham said:
I think several Colts were deserving but PM no less so.

To complete 66% in a driving rain storm, to check into the right play time and time again, to choose the open receiver or back consistently, to throw the short ball to backs and receivers in stride so they could move up field -- these are all examples of playing great.

It seems we have such high expectations of him that if he doesn't throw for 300+ and 3TD's, he's dogging it.
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vol bandit said:
I'll agree Volinbham. he finally wins the big game gets the monkey off his back and now some people want to wait and see what he does next yr. It doern't matter what he does next yr, love or hate him he is one of the best qb to ever play period.
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one super bowl victory does not escalate peyton into the greatest ever. it does get him closer. i'm questioning who did more of the playcalling. you can't guarantee that he changed his ideas and went simple and i can't prove that the coaching staff did more playcalling. That's why i want to see next year. I've read some people talk about simplifying the plays because of the weather, but they did the same thing against the pats two weeks ago. If it is peyton playing smarter, then even more to him. but i don't know that, and I don't see how you can know that either.

About peyton not throwing for 300 yds w/ 3 tds blah blah blah. addai rushing for 77 and getting 66 receiving yds is more mvp worthy than the the numbers peyton put up IMO. rhodes rushing for 113 w/ a TD was more worthy IMO. Sanders great play on D, cumulated w/ his pick six was more worthy IMO. i'm not trashing peyton, I just don't feel he deserved the MVP.
 
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No one player stood out as clear MVP.

Give it to Addai, Rhodes, Sanders, Manning - all have strong arguments. I would argue that PM played as well as any of these guys so it might as well go to him.

He clearly directed his team through the critical parts of the game. The opening drive of the 3rd quarter was huge.

Even if he isn't changing the play, he's making the correct read time and time again. Many of those passes to Addai were safety valve plays.

Bottomline, the MVP "controversy" is much ado about nothing. PM was as deserving as any other player on the team. If the Colts had lost, he would have taken too much of the blame...
 
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