Bowl schmole

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1972 Grad said:
I understand the extra practices and the revenue, but someone please tell me how going to a bowl after the 2009 Kiffin year and the 2010 Dooley year helped us in the following years. Who really cares if we get to play Illinois in the Cereal Bowl?
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Those years it didn't but we NEED the practice. If you can get a New Years bowl you get that extra month of practice. Then off for two months and the spring practice this year you even get summer practice with the coaches. So yes a bowl game will help us because they won't get as rusty in the off season.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I understand the extra practices and the revenue, but someone please tell me how going to a bowl after the 2009 Kiffin year and the 2010 Dooley year helped us in the following years. Who really cares if we get to play Illinois in the Cereal Bowl?
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This is stupid. You can't build a foundation and preach a process if you just throw in the towel. The bowl is something left for our players to play hard and achieve. If we lose the bowl, so what? The point is to win 6 games. Play out the season, and start achieving goals set forth for the football team.
 
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TreeGreen said:
This is stupid. You can't build a foundation and preach a process if you just throw in the towel. The bowl is something left for our players to play hard and achieve. If we lose the bowl, so what? The point is to win 6 games. Play out the season, and start achieving goals set forth for the football team.
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Why can't people understand a simple point? I did not say that one shouldn't set goals. I did not say that the players didn't want a bowl game. I did not say that one should throw in the towel and quit.

My point (AGAIN) is that I think that the facts have not shown Tennessee has improved the season after a bowl game in recent seasons. The benefit of extra practices appears overblown in my opinion.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Okay. Please tell me how the Kiffin 2009 blowout loss to Virginia Tech helped our 2010 Year Zero Dooley team. Then tell me how our 2010 close loss to North Carolina helped Dooley's second year 2011 team. Are you telling me that we would have had a worse record in 2010 and 2011 if we hadn't gone to those 2 bowl games? My point is that it makes no difference for the next year.
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And...BOOM goes the dynamite!
 
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Hmm, Cereal Bowl - where we can see some snap crackle & pop on the field. Nice..
 
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1972 Grad said:
Why can't people understand a simple point? I did not say that one shouldn't set goals. I did not say that the players didn't want a bowl game. I did not say that one should throw in the towel and quit.

My point (AGAIN) is that I think that the facts have not shown Tennessee has improved the season after a bowl game in recent seasons. The benefit of extra practices appears overblown in my opinion.
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I truly feel sorry for you..
 
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Dickel#12Vol said:
I truly feel sorry for you..
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Is that because you can't refute the point that I made with any facts? Please feel free to show me which games the Vols won the year after Kiffin's and Dooley's bowl games, that they would not have won, without the extra practices from the bowl game the previous year.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Okay. Please tell me how the Kiffin 2009 blowout loss to Virginia Tech helped our 2010 Year Zero Dooley team. Then tell me how our 2010 close loss to North Carolina helped Dooley's second year 2011 team. Are you telling me that we would have had a worse record in 2010 and 2011 if we hadn't gone to those 2 bowl games? My point is that it makes no difference for the next year.
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I actually agree 100 percent here.

I do think a bowl game is huge for the perception of the program, but not for on the field results.

Mizzou and Auburn both missed bowl games last year and are doing just fine this year.
 
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Aesius said:
I actually agree 100 percent here.

I do think a bowl game is huge for the perception of the program, but not for on the field results.

Mizzou and Auburn both missed bowl games last year and are doing just fine this year.
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Be careful agreeing with me. There are compassionate people on Vol Nation though. One very kind, sincere person here truly feels sorry for me.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I understand the extra practices and the revenue, but someone please tell me how going to a bowl after the 2009 Kiffin year and the 2010 Dooley year helped us in the following years. Who really cares if we get to play Illinois in the Cereal Bowl?
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1972 Grad said:
I understand the extra practices and the revenue, but someone please tell me how going to a bowl after the 2009 Kiffin year and the 2010 Dooley year helped us in the following years. Who really cares if we get to play Illinois in the Cereal Bowl?
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Spoiled and feeling entitled I see.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I understand the extra practices and the revenue, but someone please tell me how going to a bowl after the 2009 Kiffin year and the 2010 Dooley year helped us in the following years. Who really cares if we get to play Illinois in the Cereal Bowl?
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You are wrong bc we get extra practice time, it helps with recruiting , and it will be a chance to win 7 games ( if we beat Vandy, of course) . Those are all good things.
 
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I can't believe there's a thread about this. A bowl this year is a must. Keep your eyes on the prize.
 
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JACK8254 said:
You are wrong bc we get extra practice time, it helps with recruiting , and it will be a chance to win 7 games ( if we beat Vandy, of course) . Those are all good things.
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Or, like 2010, another opportunity to get loss # 7, in case we don't get there during the regular season.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Why can't people understand a simple point? I did not say that one shouldn't set goals. I did not say that the players didn't want a bowl game. I did not say that one should throw in the towel and quit.

My point (AGAIN) is that I think that the facts have not shown Tennessee has improved the season after a bowl game in recent seasons. The benefit of extra practices appears overblown in my opinion.
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We'll we haven't had a real coach to make any improvements from the practices after the bowl game. Butch hasn't coached here long enough to show if he is the head coach we need.
 
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This thread is stupid on all kinds of levels. A bowl game doesn't matter? With the toughest schedule in our history, a new coaching staff, a horrid defense, many young players and a true freshman QB if we were to win a bowl game that would be absolutely huge.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I understand the extra practices and the revenue, but someone please tell me how going to a bowl after the 2009 Kiffin year and the 2010 Dooley year helped us in the following years. Who really cares if we get to play Illinois in the Cereal Bowl?
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Ridiculous........you can't be serious with this question.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I understand the extra practices and the revenue, but someone please tell me how going to a bowl after the 2009 Kiffin year and the 2010 Dooley year helped us in the following years. Who really cares if we get to play Illinois in the Cereal Bowl?
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If nothing else, it's an obvious step up from the last two years when we did not go. It's not so much the bowl itself, but NOT GOING looks bad. Especially if the MSUs and Vandys of the world do go. It looks bad.

So going will be a step up from 2011 and 2012...winning will secure our best season since 2007, believe it or not.

And I think both of those things matter...both of them are bricks. Are they small improvements? Yes, but you have to start somewhere.

One brick at a time!
 
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1972 Grad said:
I understand the extra practices and the revenue, but someone please tell me how going to a bowl after the 2009 Kiffin year and the 2010 Dooley year helped us in the following years. Who really cares if we get to play Illinois in the Cereal Bowl?
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You're weak.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Is that because you can't refute the point that I made with any facts? Please feel free to show me which games the Vols won the year after Kiffin's and Dooley's bowl games, that they would not have won, without the extra practices from the bowl game the previous year.
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People want a bowl game, even a nothing game like the Papa Johns Bowl or Liberty Bowl because by getting that sixth win and having even a slim chance at something it shows the team to have progressed over the last two 5-7 seasons.

If you're a recruit, who would you rather play for, a team that has gone 5-7 several years in a row, no conference titles, no post season action.

Or would you rather consider a team that went 6-6 in the season, won a nothing bowl and improved to 7-6 on the year, and showed that it is possible to win and have something to build on.

But with an idiot like you I guess it's BCS or bust, hmmm?
 
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VolBuck86 said:
People want a bowl game, even a nothing game like the Papa Johns Bowl or Liberty Bowl because by getting that sixth win and having even a slim chance at something it shows the team to have progressed over the last two 5-7 seasons.

If you're a recruit, who would you rather play for, a team that has gone 5-7 several years in a row, no conference titles, no post season action.

Or would you rather consider a team that went 6-6 in the season, won a nothing bowl and improved to 7-6 on the year, and showed that it is possible to win and have something to build on.

But with an idiot like you I guess it's BCS or bust, hmmm?
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Where do I start? I am 64 years old. While I was a student at U.T., we went to the Orange, Sugar, Cotton , and one other bowl (Bluebonnet?). There were only 4 major bowls during that time, and we could not go to the other, which was the Rose Bowl, because of the Big 10, Pac 8 tie-in. All 4 of those bowls were played on New Year's Day. The Gator Bowl was the 5th best bowl, and we went to that in my senior year in high school.

My perspective of bowls may be different from your's. In a 5 year period, we went to the top 4 bowls available to us. There weren't 30 bowls , so a bowl trip meant something. It meant that you were one of the top teams in the country, and that you had achieved something. It has now been watered down to the point that , unless your team is a complete and utter failure, that you go to a bowl. I come from a different era with a different perspective. That doesn't make me an idiot.

Allowing mediocre teams to go to a bowl game waters down the product. You might as well allow Yugos to run in the Daytona 500. Thanks for your kind words.
 
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