Bronze/Silver Stars

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Much has been made of the doctor's Bronze star, Over the holiday weekend I will try to get ahold of my uncle's reccomendations for both awards both with a 'V' device, for his actions in an ARP platoon in Vietnam in 1970.

Not trying to piss on gsvol, or knock BPV's Bronze Star, but the V device is something different on a Silver Star.

The PL got cut down in the first burst, and my uncle backed the kids off into a sound perimiter defense. tyHe was hit moving forward to take a soldier back to safety, and died in transit.

A real Soldier died on his brothers (My dad's, a Vietnam Marine)'s 23d birthday

Just rambling, but the V device on a Bronze Star, or any medal, means alot, A Silver Star with a V is a SOLDIER

Just rambling, i can get Jack's nominations, but my grandfather jumped with B 508, and lost his arm with Jim Gavin at La Fiere. Lets have the Libs pretend like the give a fork about that
 
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notice, a "V" pin on a ribbon is for Valor, as a modifier, i guess works best...therefore a Silver Star for Gallantry in Action, with Valor device, is heavy.

BPV, my uncles PL says that DA and WESPAC werent keen on giving awards to the LRRPs and ARPs at the time, that he was reccomended for a DSC and got the Silver Star, as an officer and a student, do you think that was because of the regularity of medal winning acts on the part of the LRRPs and ARPs?
 
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I was baptised by a man who had a silver star with not one but two oak leaf clusters.

I may be wrong but I have thought that was the equivelent of three silver stars and that the silver star was next to the congressional medal of honor in the order of merit?

Those honors were won in the south pacific in WWII.

That man went on to spend nineteen years in Japan as a Christian missionary.

If you reply to my last PM I will tell you some of the accomplishments of his son.
 
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My uncle got the bronze and silver in Vietnam. The silver if I'm not mistaken, is for ''Gallantry in the face of the enemy'' the 3rd highest medal behind the MOH and the DSC.
 
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JTrainDavis said:
Much has been made of the doctor's Bronze star, Over the holiday weekend I will try to get ahold of my uncle's reccomendations for both awards both with a 'V' device, for his actions in an ARP platoon in Vietnam in 1970.

Not trying to piss on gsvol, or knock BPV's Bronze Star, but the V device is something different on a Silver Star.

The PL got cut down in the first burst, and my uncle backed the kids off into a sound perimiter defense. tyHe was hit moving forward to take a soldier back to safety, and died in transit.

A real Soldier died on his brothers (My dad's, a Vietnam Marine)'s 23d birthday

Just rambling, but the V device on a Bronze Star, or any medal, means alot, A Silver Star with a V is a SOLDIER

Just rambling, i can get Jack's nominations, but my grandfather jumped with B 508, and lost his arm with Jim Gavin at La Fiere. Lets have the Libs pretend like the give a fork about that
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Whose the Dr. You speak of (nvm just read the thread)
I agree that the V, signiciantly upgardes the award

I didn't think Silver Stars, we're awarded with the V.
Since Valor is implied in the award of a silver star,it is the 3rd highest medal that can be awarded


I have the Bronze Star, from the first Gulf War

I'm glad they created the Combat Action Badge

I lead a fire support team attached to an Infantry company, and I'll never forget the day the infantry company was awarded their CIB's..

Standing in the middle of the desert and watching that I felt horrible that there wasn't a comparable award for my soldiers. So now with the CAB soldiers attached to Infantry units can have their contributions recoginized as well
 
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Grandpa had two bronze stars in WWII. One had a V pin on it. Nobody knew about them until after he died (he didn't talk about it much). Not sure what exactly he did to receive them.
 
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I had a friend in college whose dad received a Silver Star while in Somalia. It seems like a couple of handfuls of guys were awarded Silver Stars for their action in Mogadishu.
 
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TennTradition said:
I had a friend in college whose dad received a Silver Star while in Somalia. It seems like a couple of handfuls of guys were awarded Silver Stars for their action in Mogadishu.
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There were two Medal of Honor winner's from Ft Campbell

Medal of Honor Recipients - Somalia

Task force snipers that asked to be inserted to provide protection to one of the downed aircraft
 
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vol_in_il said:
There were two Medal of Honor winner's from Ft Campbell

Medal of Honor Recipients - Somalia

Task force snipers that asked to be inserted to provide protection to one of the downed aircraft
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After talking to my friend about his father's experience, I researched that myself, and saw that a couple of medal of honors were awarded for action in Mogadishu...amazing stories.

It seems that some pretty hairy situations developed in Mogadishu. I never served in the military, but I have gained a tremendous respect and (though I may be off-base in saying it) understanding for those who have.
 
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TennTradition said:
After talking to my friend about his father's experience, I researched that myself, and saw that a couple of medal of honors were awarded for action in Mogadishu...amazing stories.

It seems that some pretty hairy situations developed in Mogadishu. I never served in the military, but I have gained a tremendous respect and (though I may be off-base in saying it) understanding for those who have.
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Shughart and Gordon certainly were very brave individuals.

I don't think Black Hawk Down does them justice.
 
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JTrainDavis said:
notice, a "V" pin on a ribbon is for Valor, as a modifier, i guess works best...therefore a Silver Star for Gallantry in Action, with Valor device, is heavy.

BPV, my uncles PL says that DA and WESPAC werent keen on giving awards to the LRRPs and ARPs at the time, that he was reccomended for a DSC and got the Silver Star, as an officer and a student, do you think that was because of the regularity of medal winning acts on the part of the LRRPs and ARPs?
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I don't really know. I do know that once medals get that high, there is a very political element to the process. I hate to say it, but it's absolutely true.
 
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bam15 said:
Shughart and Gordon certainly were very brave individuals.

I don't think Black Hawk Down does them justice.
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hard to depict on screen that which would earn a posthumous CMH.

Played golf with an old timer who won a CMH as an aviator in Vietnam. Listening to his story was one of the most enthralling times I've ever spent. His story was absolutely insane and wasn't reflected in the citation. His name is Mike Novosel. Down to earth guy, awful golfer, about 5'4" and bad as all hell in my book.
 
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