Bruce Pearl or Pat Summitt

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which one would you choose to coach the men's team if the lady's team wasnt around?
 
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Or which would you have coach the women's team if the mens' wasn't around? I'm not sure either is a valid question. They each are what they are...Pat is a legend and Bruce has a great start...but not "legend" status yet...
 
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Any true historian (not necessarily advocate) of women's college basketball would choose Bruce Pearl.

The LadyVols was the only women's basketball program (not just team) from the early 80s until Rebecca Lobo showed up at UConn in what, 1994-5?

I understand that Pat has won 900 games, however, Brian Shay holds the NCAA record for rushing yards in a career, and he is not nearly as celebrated as Pat Summit, or any RBs in D-1, because he faced less competition throughout his career.

Unfortunately though, it is okay to discriminate between athletes/coaches at sub D-1 levels, yet it is not ok to discriminate when it comes to gender, hence Summit earns a more than unproportional amount of money in salary compared to LadyVol revenue. Period, end of discussion.
 
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(therealUT @ Mar 28 said:
The LadyVols was the only women's basketball program (not just team) from the early 80s until Rebecca Lobo showed up at UConn in what, 1994-5?
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True historian huh?

True, the women's game has absolutely never been anywhere nearly as deep and competitive as the men's game, but schools like Texas, USC, Stanford, La Tech, UConn, etc have been good for years. If the Lady Vols were the only good program in the early 80s, why did it take until 1987 for Pat Summitt to win her first National title?? :focus:

I would never advocate Summitt coaching the men's team, but let's at least deal with facts.
 
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(GAVol @ Mar 28 said:
True historian huh?

True, the women's game has absolutely never been anywhere nearly as deep and competitive as the men's game, but schools like Texas, USC, Stanford, La Tech, UConn, etc have been good for years. If the Lady Vols were the only good program in the early 80s, why did it take until 1987 for Pat Summitt to win her first National title?? :focus:

I would never advocate Summitt coaching the men's team, but let's at least deal with facts.
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You forgot Old Dominion.
 
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(GAVol @ Mar 28 said:
True historian huh?

True, the women's game has absolutely never been anywhere nearly as deep and competitive as the men's game, but schools like Texas, USC, Stanford, La Tech, UConn, etc have been good for years. If the Lady Vols were the only good program in the early 80s, why did it take until 1987 for Pat Summitt to win her first National title?? :focus:

I would never advocate Summitt coaching the men's team, but let's at least deal with facts.
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Agree 100% Living in the northeast, I can tell you that Pat Summit is widely acknowledged as the best women's coach in college basketball...tremendously respected...even among some of her fiercest rivals.
 
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Our true historian must be from the NE also to think there was little or no women's basketball before Rebecca Lobo. That is the way much of the media treated her. Cheryl Miller and many other players in the women's game were equal to Lobo or better but because she played around the corner from Bristol, CT ESPN could cover this sport that they had ignored before that time.
 
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(volinasheville @ Mar 28 said:
Our true historian must be from the NE also to think there was little or no women's basketball before Rebecca Lobo. That is the way much of the media treated her. Cheryl Miller and many other players in the women's game were equal to Lobo or better but because she played around the corner from Bristol, CT ESPN could cover this sport that they had ignored before that time.
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Also, remember that Lobo dated Keith Olberman.
 
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(volinasheville @ Mar 28 said:
...because she played around the corner from Bristol, CT ESPN could cover this sport that they had ignored before that time.
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And prior to ESPN covering the sport, most universities ignored their women's programs, and therefore, the LadyVols on talent alone were guaranteed 30 wins a season (tournament included) from basically 1979 through '95. Thats what, over 450 wins against schools whose sole acknowledgement of women's athletics was to make sure they were abiding by Title IX???
 
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(therealUT @ Mar 28 said:
And prior to ESPN covering the sport, most universities ignored their women's programs, and therefore, the LadyVols on talent alone were guaranteed 30 wins a season (tournament included) from basically 1979 through '95. Thats what, over 450 wins against schools whose sole acknowledgement of women's athletics was to make sure they were abiding by Title IX???
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Thanks for playing but there were only 7 years during that time when they won as many as 30 games. If we are just going to make up numbers then let's not bother. There were actually quite a few programs in the SEC that did a bit more than ignore their programs prior to the arrival of Rebecca Lobo at UConn. The SEC championship has always been contested by quite a few teams over the past 25 years.
 
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(volinasheville @ Mar 28 said:
Thanks for playing but there were only 7 years during that time when they won as many as 30 games. If we are just going to make up numbers then let's not bother. There were actually quite a few programs in the SEC that did a bit more than ignore their programs prior to the arrival of Rebecca Lobo at UConn. The SEC championship has always been contested by quite a few teams over the past 25 years.
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Didn't I qualify that statement also by saying thats over 450 wins from '79-'95??? And, she actually had 477 wins from '79-'95.
 
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why would anyone take Pat Summit over Bruce Pearl. They are on different levels as sports, mens is a major sport womens isnt
 
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Pat Summit knows the game as well or better than bruce, she's been around forever. however, if she coached the men i dont think we would be very good in recruiting great players. college guys arent going to want to be coached by a woman, no offense but thats just how it is. so id take Bruce as the mens coach if the womens team wasnt around.
 
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(Taylor Moran @ Mar 28 said:
Pat Summit knows the game as well or better than bruce, she's been around forever. however, if she coached the men i dont think we would be very good in recruiting great players. college guys arent going to want to be coached by a woman, no offense but thats just how it is. so id take Bruce as the mens coach if the womens team wasnt around.
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I agree and also I don't think that the men players would respect Pat as much as they do Bruce. They wouldn't just connect as well.
 
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(Taylor Moran @ Mar 28 said:
Pat Summit knows the game as well or better than bruce, she's been around forever. however, if she coached the men i dont think we would be very good in recruiting great players. college guys arent going to want to be coached by a woman, no offense but thats just how it is. so id take Bruce as the mens coach if the womens team wasnt around.
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No, Pat Summit knows the women's game as well or better than Bruce.
 
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(therealUT @ Mar 29 said:
No, Pat Summit knows the women's game as well or better than Bruce.
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...and that is not a sexist comment. I agree 100%. Maybe she'd do OK, maybe she wouldn't, but no doubt it's a different game.
 
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