BTO’s South Carolina (and more) Postgame report

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1. That was a great win and in much needed fashion for the Vols who have struggled of late, we will see if it’s exactly what the doctor ordered and gets them going or if it’s just a flash in the pan type deal, but if we are going to get on a roll and find our stride that was a great and much needed first step in doing so.

2. Again the talk is can we get healthy, we got JJJ back but still no Phillips and all of a sudden a mysterious ankle injury to Key that nobody can figure out, this team just can’t catch a break injury/sick wise it seems. By my count this team has had full availability for just 12/29 games to this point, I can’t help but question if that has contributed to some of the inconsistency, add in that JJJ didn’t practice much leading up to the season and you’ve had a lot of different lineup looks.

3. Speaking of getting full strength, what a return for JJJ and we can all only hope that is the JJJ we see for the rest of the season. He gives us versatility to go big or small (as does Phillips) and obviously added depth as well. There’s no argument that can be made that says we are better without him, sure he may have cold nights but Santi just went 1/9, everyone has them, but being at full strength will hopefully increase the chances of a hot hand, help get better looks when we are cold, and give us the depth to play that lock down defense this team is capable of.

4. A potential silver lining with the injuries though is the the emergence of Jahmai Mashack, his last 3 games he’s averaging 31mpg 11ppg 5rbd 3ast 2stl 57%fg 57%3ptfg 43%FT (obviously that’s not good)…those percentages won’t stick but at the very least this stretch should give him some confidence that he can score at this level and compete on the offensive end, we all know he can more than hold his own on the defensive end. If we get back to full strength and you now have the luxury of bringing THAT guy off the bench along with Key that’s all of a sudden some nice guard/wing depth we didn’t realize we had.

5. Let’s look big picture and kinda reset things with 1 week left in the regular season…Vols sit 21-8(10-6) and a projected 3 seed with 2 games remaining. If you look in front of Tennessee you have Texas as a 2 seed with 7 losses and Baylor a 2 seed with 8 losses, behind Tennessee, Iowa State sits at a 4 seed with 11 losses, Indiana a 4 seed with 9 losses, I say that to kind of give some context on potential floor ceiling for Tennessee with 2 games remaining. It would certainly appear that barring 0-3 over their next 3 (2 regular season, opening SECT game) that a 4 seed is very likely the floor for this team. A 2 seed is very much in play if they were to go 2-0 to finish the season, and a 3 seed is probably the most likely seed as of today. Obviously anything can happen in the tournament but getting the best seed possible historically gives you the best chance of advancing, so that’s what you want to do. Tennessee’s last 2 games aren’t easy by any stretch, in fact analytics project a 1-1 finish, you’re playing an Arkansas team that’s playing like a Top 5 team in the country their last 4 games (since Smith returned, it’s true, check the numbers), and then at an Auburn team who’s a projected NCAAT team in their house and a team who feels they should’ve beat us the first time…Tennessee definitely has a tough finish ahead to their season, but a manageable one, and one that a strong finish would give some confidence to folks that maybe as this team gets healthy they’re figuring some things out.




GBO!!!
 
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Good to see BJ Edwards having a good showing. Hopefully he’s improving rather than it’s simply USCjr being totally putrid.

Too bad JP didn’t at least get a few minutes in. I’m starting to worry if he’ll be able to contribute much as the NCAAT approaches.
 
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Nice to see it, BTO!

With JJJ and (BIG if) Phillips healthy, plus the emergence of Mashack, who gets left out of the rotation going forward?
 
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Good to see BJ Edwards having a good showing. Hopefully he’s improving rather than it’s simply USCjr being totally putrid.

Too bad JP didn’t at least get a few minutes in. I’m starting to worry if he’ll be able to contribute much as the NCAAT approaches.
I liked that they played him off the ball alongside ZZ some
 
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With JJJ and (BIG if) Phillips healthy, plus the emergence of Mashack, who gets left out of the rotation going forward?

Key’s minutes could decrease. But it probably depends game by game on whether TN goes big or small. Key gets more when going small. Uros and Aidoo/Awaka get more minutes if going big. JP, JJJ, and JM can all guard a lot of spots - their minutes probably consistently take a ton of the 200 available if they are healthy.
 
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Key’s minutes could decrease. But it probably depends game by game on whether TN goes big or small. Key gets more when going small. Uros and Aidoo/Awaka get more minutes if going big. JP, JJJ, and JM can all guard a lot of spots - their minutes probably consistently take a ton of the 200 available if they are healthy.

I love how CRB has been playing with two 5's on the court early in the game to see how the other team responds; only problem is that sometimes lends to the stagnation we fear to see... TONS of options when we get healthy!
 
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I liked that they played him off the ball alongside ZZ some

Yes. PG is a big responsibility for somebody as young as BJE. Getting minutes at the 2 with fewer mistakes can build up his confidence.

I was surprised how much better Mashack looked at bringing the ball up court and his ball movement in the half court. Plus knocking down the 3 means defenses can’t ignore him on the perimeter like they can with Uros.
 
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With JJJ and (BIG if) Phillips healthy, plus the emergence of Mashack, who gets left out of the rotation going forward?
Could be Key, could be a big if they play more small, depending on matchup that might be the most likely answer. Will be a ton of versatility, can go big, can go normal lineup, and can go ultra small even potentially with JJJ at 5.
 
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I love how CRB has been playing with two 5's on the court early in the game to see how the other team responds; only problem is that sometimes lends to the stagnation we fear to see... TONS of options when we get healthy!

Uros needs to get in his minutes before the free throw bonus is in in effect. He needs to be nowhere near the court when the one-and-one is a possibility. It’s also weird, but iirc Uros was winning most of the opening tips and Aidoo was losing them.
 
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Could be Key, could be a big if they play more small, depending on matchup that might be the most likely answer. Will be a ton of versatility, can go big, can go normal lineup, and can go ultra small even potentially with JJJ at 5.

What gets me excited about the versatility is I don't see a defensive liability anywhere - I see some liability on the O side, but we won't go there today :)
 
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Could be Key, could be a big if they play more small, depending on matchup that might be the most likely answer. Will be a ton of versatility, can go big, can go normal lineup, and can go ultra small even potentially with JJJ at 5.
I like the kid a ton but I think Key’s minutes are in jeopardy especially if Mashack is able to score 6-10pts a game consistently.
 
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I like the kid a ton but I think Key’s minutes are in jeopardy especially if Mashack is able to score 6-10pts a game consistently.
100%….but at the same time not feeling like he has to score may actually loosen Key up a bit. The rotations have to be better, Key & Mashack shouldn’t be out there together, those guys with 2 bigs ideally aren’t out there etc.
 
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1. That was a great win and in much needed fashion for the Vols who have struggled of late, we will see if it’s exactly what the doctor ordered and gets them going or if it’s just a flash in the pan type deal, but if we are going to get on a roll and find our stride that was a great and much needed first step in doing so.
2. Again the talk is can we get healthy, ....
3. Speaking of getting full strength, what a return for JJJ and we can all only hope that is the JJJ we see for the rest of the season. ...
4. A potential silver lining with the injuries though is the the emergence of Jahmai Mashack, ...
5. Let’s look big picture and kinda reset things with 1 week left in the regular season…

GBO!!!
Always appreciate your perspective!!!
What is amazing is that we beat SCjr just as badly the 2nd time. That is very interesting. SCjr last 4 games SC won 2 on the road. Came a whisker of beating Alabama at home and lost at home to a good Vandy team in a relatively close game (11 pts). They are not that bad of a team. [Yes they are definitely in the bottom 4 . But they are not #238 in the NET rankings]

#1 Great win ... and whatever the reason, this was a very good step ONE in the right direction.
Arkansas, on Tuesday ... looking for step TWO.
#2 Agreed getting healthy is going to be a BIG key for this team! Hopefully we see JP for a few minutes on Tuesday! I am hoping that JP can get to playing shape before the NCAAT.
#3 Hoping we can get 15-18 quality minutes from JJJ on Tuesday. I hope we can bring him along 'slowly' and not rush him back. With Jahmai's visible progress ... I am hoping that allows JJJ time to get in 'playing shape' by the SECT. Key with a swollen ankle is going to a few days ... at the least.
Losses are demoralizing for the fans ... but losses for players do not necessarily ... have the same impact on the players.
I am hoping that the 3 close losses ... have galvanized the resolve of the team. Has them starting to hum like a well oiled machine.
I make no apology for being an optimist. I enjoy living with hope and I 'feel bad' for those who run around with a cloud of doom and gloom encircling their head and fogging up their minds.

@BTO ... Jack Canfield has said, 'You can't do anything with "toxic people" but avoid them and refuse to let them into your life.' So, just ignore the negative folks and make use of the ignore button liberally as needed. :^))))))
 
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1. That was a great win and in much needed fashion for the Vols who have struggled of late, we will see if it’s exactly what the doctor ordered and gets them going or if it’s just a flash in the pan type deal, but if we are going to get on a roll and find our stride that was a great and much needed first step in doing so.

2. Again the talk is can we get healthy, we got JJJ back but still no Phillips and all of a sudden a mysterious ankle injury to Key that nobody can figure out, this team just can’t catch a break injury/sick wise it seems. By my count this team has had full availability for just 12/29 games to this point, I can’t help but question if that has contributed to some of the inconsistency, add in that JJJ didn’t practice much leading up to the season and you’ve had a lot of different lineup looks.

3. Speaking of getting full strength, what a return for JJJ and we can all only hope that is the JJJ we see for the rest of the season. He gives us versatility to go big or small (as does Phillips) and obviously added depth as well. There’s no argument that can be made that says we are better without him, sure he may have cold nights but Santi just went 1/9, everyone has them, but being at full strength will hopefully increase the chances of a hot hand, help get better looks when we are cold, and give us the depth to play that lock down defense this team is capable of.

4. A potential silver lining with the injuries though is the the emergence of Jahmai Mashack, his last 3 games he’s averaging 31mpg 11ppg 5rbd 3ast 2stl 57%fg 57%3ptfg 43%FT (obviously that’s not good)…those percentages won’t stick but at the very least this stretch should give him some confidence that he can score at this level and compete on the offensive end, we all know he can more than hold his own on the defensive end. If we get back to full strength and you now have the luxury of bringing THAT guy off the bench along with Key that’s all of a sudden some nice guard/wing depth we didn’t realize we had.

5. Let’s look big picture and kinda reset things with 1 week left in the regular season…Vols sit 21-8(10-6) and a projected 3 seed with 2 games remaining. If you look in front of Tennessee you have Texas as a 2 seed with 7 losses and Baylor a 2 seed with 8 losses, behind Tennessee, Iowa State sits at a 4 seed with 11 losses, Indiana a 4 seed with 9 losses, I say that to kind of give some context on potential floor ceiling for Tennessee with 2 games remaining. It would certainly appear that barring 0-3 over their next 3 (2 regular season, opening SECT game) that a 4 seed is very likely the floor for this team. A 2 seed is very much in play if they were to go 2-0 to finish the season, and a 3 seed is probably the most likely seed as of today. Obviously anything can happen in the tournament but getting the best seed possible historically gives you the best chance of advancing, so that’s what you want to do. Tennessee’s last 2 games aren’t easy by any stretch, in fact analytics project a 1-1 finish, you’re playing an Arkansas team that’s playing like a Top 5 team in the country their last 4 games (since Smith returned, it’s true, check the numbers), and then at an Auburn team who’s a projected NCAAT team in their house and a team who feels they should’ve beat us the first time…Tennessee definitely has a tough finish ahead to their season, but a manageable one, and one that a strong finish would give some confidence to folks that maybe as this team gets healthy they’re figuring some things out.




GBO!!!


It is good to see Mashack gaining some confidence offensively and to also see Edwards get some much needed playing time to relieve Seigler for short spells.

Mashack will have to lock down Nick Smith and Tennessee has to limit the fast break opportunities and guard the three point line against Arkansas tomorrow night.

Fun Fact, Eric Mussellman's father was part of the Ray Mears coaching tree.
 
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Dont post much, but read daily. Thanks BTO for your write-ups. It completes the basketball season with your post game comments. I probably know enough about basketball to be dangerous at times. These boards, barring some of the posters, have helped me understand the game more over the years. Looking forward to what is in store the rest of the season. There has not been any give up in this team, even when a game looked like it was out of control at times. Hopefully all get healthy by tournament time. Hope I am sitting in a large turnout for senior night Tuesday. Sucks it is a 9 oclock game, but will be there with orange bells on. lol
P.S. Thanks to Yankee for the pre games also. All you regulars are great reads. Even when we all whine a little haha.
 
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Always appreciate your perspective!!!
What is amazing is that we beat SCjr just as badly the 2nd time. That is very interesting. SCjr last 4 games SC won 2 on the road. Came a whisker of beating Alabama at home and lost at home to a good Vandy team in a relatively close game (11 pts). They are not that bad of a team. [Yes they are definitely in the bottom 4 . But they are not #238 in the NET rankings]

#1 Great win ... and whatever the reason, this was a very good step ONE in the right direction.
Arkansas, on Tuesday ... looking for step TWO.
#2 Agreed getting healthy is going to be a BIG key for this team! Hopefully we see JP for a few minutes on Tuesday! I am hoping that JP can get to playing shape before the NCAAT.
#3 Hoping we can get 15-18 quality minutes from JJJ on Tuesday. I hope we can bring him along 'slowly' and not rush him back. With Jahmai's visible progress ... I am hoping that allows JJJ time to get in 'playing shape' by the SECT. Key with a swollen ankle is going to a few days ... at the least.
Losses are demoralizing for the fans ... but losses for players do not necessarily ... have the same impact on the players.
I am hoping that the 3 close losses ... have galvanized the resolve of the team. Has them starting to hum like a well oiled machine.
I make no apology for being an optimist. I enjoy living with hope and I 'feel bad' for those who run around with a cloud of doom and gloom encircling their head and fogging up their minds.

@BTO ... Jack Canfield has said, 'You can't do anything with "toxic people" but avoid them and refuse to let them into your life.' So, just ignore the negative folks and make use of the ignore button liberally as needed. :^))))))

JJJ and JP’s injuries might work out to be a blessing in disguise: Vols demonstrated they could beat anyone with both healthy and have demonstrated they can beat the #1 team in the country without either of them, along with the emergence of a bona fide defensive hitman (Mashak) - Give me the Orange Kool-Aide, baby!
 
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I love that Mashack dribble drives and can finish at the rim or a mid range jumper. If he can have success off the dribble, then they could free up someone down low or give a better look for Santi.

JJJ attacked the rim too which was a great change of pace. If JJJ and Mashack can have success dribble driving into the paint, then our bigs and/or Santi could get some better looks. Not to mention ZZ and the return (hopefully) of Phillips.
 
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Great hearing from you again BTO! Mashack, ZZ, and Aidoo’s growth throughout the season has been especially impressive to me. CRB gets a lot of grief, but he can obviously develop players
 
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Strong game VS South Carolina...just need to put another strong home performance VS Arkansas before we end the regular season at Auburn. Two wins this week heading into the SEC Tourney would be sweet!
 
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1. That was a great win and in much needed fashion for the Vols who have struggled of late, we will see if it’s exactly what the doctor ordered and gets them going or if it’s just a flash in the pan type deal, but if we are going to get on a roll and find our stride that was a great and much needed first step in doing so.

2. Again the talk is can we get healthy, we got JJJ back but still no Phillips and all of a sudden a mysterious ankle injury to Key that nobody can figure out, this team just can’t catch a break injury/sick wise it seems. By my count this team has had full availability for just 12/29 games to this point, I can’t help but question if that has contributed to some of the inconsistency, add in that JJJ didn’t practice much leading up to the season and you’ve had a lot of different lineup looks.

3. Speaking of getting full strength, what a return for JJJ and we can all only hope that is the JJJ we see for the rest of the season. He gives us versatility to go big or small (as does Phillips) and obviously added depth as well. There’s no argument that can be made that says we are better without him, sure he may have cold nights but Santi just went 1/9, everyone has them, but being at full strength will hopefully increase the chances of a hot hand, help get better looks when we are cold, and give us the depth to play that lock down defense this team is capable of.

4. A potential silver lining with the injuries though is the the emergence of Jahmai Mashack, his last 3 games he’s averaging 31mpg 11ppg 5rbd 3ast 2stl 57%fg 57%3ptfg 43%FT (obviously that’s not good)…those percentages won’t stick but at the very least this stretch should give him some confidence that he can score at this level and compete on the offensive end, we all know he can more than hold his own on the defensive end. If we get back to full strength and you now have the luxury of bringing THAT guy off the bench along with Key that’s all of a sudden some nice guard/wing depth we didn’t realize we had.

5. Let’s look big picture and kinda reset things with 1 week left in the regular season…Vols sit 21-8(10-6) and a projected 3 seed with 2 games remaining. If you look in front of Tennessee you have Texas as a 2 seed with 7 losses and Baylor a 2 seed with 8 losses, behind Tennessee, Iowa State sits at a 4 seed with 11 losses, Indiana a 4 seed with 9 losses, I say that to kind of give some context on potential floor ceiling for Tennessee with 2 games remaining. It would certainly appear that barring 0-3 over their next 3 (2 regular season, opening SECT game) that a 4 seed is very likely the floor for this team. A 2 seed is very much in play if they were to go 2-0 to finish the season, and a 3 seed is probably the most likely seed as of today. Obviously anything can happen in the tournament but getting the best seed possible historically gives you the best chance of advancing, so that’s what you want to do. Tennessee’s last 2 games aren’t easy by any stretch, in fact analytics project a 1-1 finish, you’re playing an Arkansas team that’s playing like a Top 5 team in the country their last 4 games (since Smith returned, it’s true, check the numbers), and then at an Auburn team who’s a projected NCAAT team in their house and a team who feels they should’ve beat us the first time…Tennessee definitely has a tough finish ahead to their season, but a manageable one, and one that a strong finish would give some confidence to folks that maybe as this team gets healthy they’re figuring some things out.




GBO!!!
Welcome back bro.. well the thread, I know u were still around.
 
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I love that Mashack dribble drives and can finish at the rim or a mid range jumper. If he can have success off the dribble, then they could free up someone down low or give a better look for Santi.



JJJ attacked the rim too which was a great change of pace. If JJJ and Mashack can have success dribble driving into the paint, then our bigs and/or Santi could get some better looks. Not to mention ZZ and the return (hopefully) of Phillips.
My favorite play by JJJ was when the sea opened he just went straight to the rack. There is no counting how many times I've seen him just shy away and not attack in that situation. It's what keeps him just a good player and not a great player.
 
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