Bush urges Israeli occupation end

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BBC NEWS | Middle East | Bush urges Israeli occupation end

US President George W Bush has said Israel must end its occupation of some Arab land to enable the creation of a viable Palestinian state.

He also urged a solution to the issue of Palestinian refugees that would involve paying them compensation.
It is thought to be Mr Bush's strongest public statement pressing Israel to give up land it seized in the 1967 war.
He was speaking in Jerusalem following two days of separate talks with Israeli and Palestinian leaders. He has been trying to encourage the two sides into peace talks, and says he wants a peace deal signed by the time he leaves office in January 2009.
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But his statement set out some parameters within which he expected negotiators to work.
These included:
  • Palestinian refugee families should be compensated, rather than returning to former homes in what is now Israel
  • adjustments to the pre-1967 boundaries "to reflect current realities" - a reference to Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank
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they shouldn't be forced to give back any land. Most of the pre-1948 Palestinian Mandate territory is in present-day Jordan, but you don't hear a lot of demands for that territory to be ceded.

Personally, I think the President should announce that Israel is free to defend itself in any way it sees fit and that the US will veto any UNSC resolution against Israel.
That'll stop a lot of the crap, especially since the UN views Israel as a US lapdog. Remove the chains from a cornered dog and see what happens.
 
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MG1968 said:
they shouldn't be forced to give back any land. Most of the pre-1948 Palestinian Mandate territory is in present-day Jordan, but you don't hear a lot of demands for that territory to be ceded.

Personally, I think the President should announce that Israel is free to defend itself in any way it sees fit and that the US will veto any UNSC resolution against Israel.
That'll stop a lot of the crap, especially since the UN views Israel as a US lapdog. Remove the chains from a cornered dog and see what happens.
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:thumbsup:
 
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MG1968 said:
they shouldn't be forced to give back any land. Most of the pre-1948 Palestinian Mandate territory is in present-day Jordan, but you don't hear a lot of demands for that territory to be ceded.

Personally, I think the President should announce that Israel is free to defend itself in any way it sees fit and that the US will veto any UNSC resolution against Israel.
That'll stop a lot of the crap, especially since the UN views Israel as a US lapdog. Remove the chains from a cornered dog and see what happens.
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Bravo :clapping:
 
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MG1968 said:
they shouldn't be forced to give back any land. Most of the pre-1948 Palestinian Mandate territory is in present-day Jordan, but you don't hear a lot of demands for that territory to be ceded.

Personally, I think the President should announce that Israel is free to defend itself in any way it sees fit and that the US will veto any UNSC resolution against Israel.
That'll stop a lot of the crap, especially since the UN views Israel as a US lapdog. Remove the chains from a cornered dog and see what happens.
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spot on :thumbsup:
 
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It seems, Israel has bent over backwards the past few years, have things gotten better. They are always going to be hated in that part of the world. They are always going to be a target to some hard line Islamic faction. Why not just come out and say Israel is a independent country and they can do what ever the hell they want. The UN is basically anti US, anti semitic anyway. Why we continue to support the UN, when they don't support us. My rant for the evening, my apologies
 
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It's amazing. These countries attack Israel and get their heads handed to them and lose land in the process, and then they go running to the UN to get their land back. :crazy:

The whole reason they had these wars is because they were unsatisfied with the 1948 partitioning. Now, we expect them to be satisfied with it now? Heck, Jordan and Egypt had control of Palestinian territories from 1948-1967 and didn't make any effort to create a Palestinian state in that 19 year time frame, but Israel is?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It's amazing. These countries attack Israel and get their heads handed to them and lose land in the process, and then they go running to the UN to get their land back. :crazy:

The whole reason they had these wars is because they were unsatisfied with the 1948 partitioning. Now, we expect them to be satisfied with it now? Heck, Jordan and Egypt had control of Palestinian territories from 1948-1967 and didn't make any effort to create a Palestinian state in that 19 year time frame, but Israel is?
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I agree 100%. You add the fact that the UN isn't exactly what you would call pro-Jewish, and it makes for one sad situation. Israel has a right to exist. Period. These terrorists (and that's what they are) won't be happy no matter how much land is given back. They want Israel gone.
 
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volsforever27 said:
I agree 100%. You add the fact that the UN isn't exactly what you would call pro-Jewish, and it makes for one sad situation. Israel has a right to exist. Period. These terrorists (and that's what they are) won't be happy no matter how much land is given back. They want Israel gone.
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This is the key to the entire situation. Terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah and their backers Iran and Syria are not interested in the 1967 borders. They want to turn the clock back to pre-1948...prior to Israel's establishment.

Syria wants the Golan Heights back as a part of any peace settlement. I suppose Israel should give that back, too. Whoever commands the Golan Heights has a decided military advantage.

The UN is simply proof positive that a lot of anti-Semitism still exists in this world. And that, given enough time, it's possible to forget anything...even something like the Holocaust.
 
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I've been to Israel, a few days during a deployment to the Persian Gulf. I have but one question regarding Bush's statement. Why?

It doesn't matter what the Israelis do, it will never appease the Arab states - never.
 
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MoonDogLeft said:
I've been to Israel, a few days during a deployment to the Persian Gulf. I have but one question regarding Bush's statement. Why?

It doesn't matter what the Israelis do, it will never appease the Arab states - never.
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Bush... man I glad I don't have to live with the guilt of having voted for him. This guy on a lot of issues is just as liberal as Bill Clinton.
 
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