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NEVolFan said:
Agree.... however, some of the players may not be buying in.
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This is my first ever rant on this board. I started the season thinking I would be satisfied if we won 6 and we haven't lost sight of that goal. If winning six is a goal then losing 6 was inevitable. Don't like losing six, don't like losing even one, and it makes me ill (figuratively) to lose to Georgia, Alabama, and Auburn or anybody else for that matter but we ain't there yet. So, if some of the players are not buying in like some of the fans are not buying in then I guess we should just start all over again. (Sarcasm). What part of building a championship mentality requires a process don't we fans understand? There are peaks and valleys in every process -- we cannot expect a nice and neat upward improvement. We are in a valley now. And with any trendline, there can be rapid improvement in a very short time, gradual improvement, or more declines. Rarely will it stay the same. I happen to agree that stability in coaching is a key to success. No Volfan should quibble on the point that the strength of the Tennessee program prior to the CLK mistake was stability AND recruiting. And don't start some tangential discussion of thinking I am defending or condemning the last few years of CPF; I am simply referring to the long haul from 1977 to 2008. If players are not buying in, then it will take longer for CBJ to recruit the players needed to make the program succeed. On the other hand, the mental approach to a game is also a factor. Not saying that all are buying in but also giving some the benefit of the doubt that some still doubt themselves. And the tendency is there for them, in particular, if they were here last year. I liked the message of "winning that inch." I believe "fighting for that inch" was uppermost in Rajion Neal's mind during his outstanding touching down run yesterday. There's a fine line between over confidence and talking smack and having that little bit of doubt that a player may not be as athletic as the player across the line from him. I believe it's a process, I believe it will take time, and I also believe that the intangible is the collective mentality of the team at any point in time. Otherwise why play the game--we might just as well say it's another top ten team so let's just concede and not play the game and save us all some time. I was hugely disappointed with Missouri and more disappointed with Auburn since I have long considered the schizophrenic team from the state under Tennessee with many mascots an arch enemy. I am from the days when we used to play them very frequently; I remember well the jubilation of TRob's manhandling of the war-dumb-eagles in 1985. Yet who has played as many top ten teams as Tennessee at the time the games were played? I watched CBJ's show and I believe in his process. To me, that show was not just for the the 99.9999% of the audience who don't play football but also a message to the team itself as well as recruits. CBJ is walking a tight line with hard-nosed coaching and constructive criticism versus maintaining enthusiasm and building on the Volunteer tradition so that we recruit the very players we need to get us back to where we ultimately want to be all at the same time of having to contend with the voluminous number of back seat quarterbacks. And that is my humble opinion. I am absolutely OK if you disagree with anything I've said or fully disagreeing with me 100%.
 
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Volbackhomefromtx said:
This is my first ever rant on this board. I started the season thinking I would be satisfied if we won 6 and we haven't lost sight of that goal. If winning six is a goal then losing 6 was inevitable. Don't like losing six, don't like losing even one, and it makes me ill (figuratively) to lose to Georgia, Alabama, and Auburn or anybody else for that matter but we ain't there yet. So, if some of the players are not buying in like some of the fans are not buying in then I guess we should just start all over again. (Sarcasm). What part of building a championship mentality requires a process don't we fans understand? There are peaks and valleys in every process -- we cannot expect a nice and neat upward improvement. We are in a valley now. And with any trendline, there can be rapid improvement in a very short time, gradual improvement, or more declines. Rarely will it stay the same. I happen to agree that stability in coaching is a key to success. No Volfan should quibble on the point that the strength of the Tennessee program prior to the CLK mistake was stability AND recruiting. And don't start some tangential discussion of thinking I am defending or condemning the last few years of CPF; I am simply referring to the long haul from 1977 to 2008. If players are not buying in, then it will take longer for CBJ to recruit the players needed to make the program succeed. On the other hand, the mental approach to a game is also a factor. Not saying that all are buying in but also giving some the benefit of the doubt that some still doubt themselves. And the tendency is there for them, in particular, if they were here last year. I liked the message of "winning that inch." I believe "fighting for that inch" was uppermost in Rajion Neal's mind during his outstanding touching down run yesterday. There's a fine line between over confidence and talking smack and having that little bit of doubt that a player may not be as athletic as the player across the line from him. I believe it's a process, I believe it will take time, and I also believe that the intangible is the collective mentality of the team at any point in time. Otherwise why play the game--we might just as well say it's another top ten team so let's just concede and not play the game and save us all some time. I was hugely disappointed with Missouri and more disappointed with Auburn since I have long considered the schizophrenic team from the state under Tennessee with many mascots an arch enemy. I am from the days when we used to play them very frequently; I remember well the jubilation of TRob's manhandling of the war-dumb-eagles in 1985. Yet who has played as many top ten teams as Tennessee at the time the games were played? I watched CBJ's show and I believe in his process. To me, that show was not just for the the 99.9999% of the audience who don't play football but also a message to the team itself as well as recruits. CBJ is walking a tight line with hard-nosed coaching and constructive criticism versus maintaining enthusiasm and building on the Volunteer tradition so that we recruit the very players we need to get us back to where we ultimately want to be all at the same time of having to contend with the voluminous number of back seat quarterbacks. And that is my humble opinion. I am absolutely OK if you disagree with anything I've said or fully disagreeing with me 100%.
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Good post. I tried to make the same point yesterday about the trendline.
 
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#9
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Volbackhomefromtx said:
This is my first ever rant on this board. I started the season thinking I would be satisfied if we won 6 and we haven't lost sight of that goal. If winning six is a goal then losing 6 was inevitable. Don't like losing six, don't like losing even one, and it makes me ill (figuratively) to lose to Georgia, Alabama, and Auburn or anybody else for that matter but we ain't there yet. So, if some of the players are not buying in like some of the fans are not buying in then I guess we should just start all over again. (Sarcasm). What part of building a championship mentality requires a process don't we fans understand? There are peaks and valleys in every process -- we cannot expect a nice and neat upward improvement. We are in a valley now. And with any trendline, there can be rapid improvement in a very short time, gradual improvement, or more declines. Rarely will it stay the same. I happen to agree that stability in coaching is a key to success. No Volfan should quibble on the point that the strength of the Tennessee program prior to the CLK mistake was stability AND recruiting. And don't start some tangential discussion of thinking I am defending or condemning the last few years of CPF; I am simply referring to the long haul from 1977 to 2008. If players are not buying in, then it will take longer for CBJ to recruit the players needed to make the program succeed. On the other hand, the mental approach to a game is also a factor. Not saying that all are buying in but also giving some the benefit of the doubt that some still doubt themselves. And the tendency is there for them, in particular, if they were here last year. I liked the message of "winning that inch." I believe "fighting for that inch" was uppermost in Rajion Neal's mind during his outstanding touching down run yesterday. There's a fine line between over confidence and talking smack and having that little bit of doubt that a player may not be as athletic as the player across the line from him. I believe it's a process, I believe it will take time, and I also believe that the intangible is the collective mentality of the team at any point in time. Otherwise why play the game--we might just as well say it's another top ten team so let's just concede and not play the game and save us all some time. I was hugely disappointed with Missouri and more disappointed with Auburn since I have long considered the schizophrenic team from the state under Tennessee with many mascots an arch enemy. I am from the days when we used to play them very frequently; I remember well the jubilation of TRob's manhandling of the war-dumb-eagles in 1985. Yet who has played as many top ten teams as Tennessee at the time the games were played? I watched CBJ's show and I believe in his process. To me, that show was not just for the the 99.9999% of the audience who don't play football but also a message to the team itself as well as recruits. CBJ is walking a tight line with hard-nosed coaching and constructive criticism versus maintaining enthusiasm and building on the Volunteer tradition so that we recruit the very players we need to get us back to where we ultimately want to be all at the same time of having to contend with the voluminous number of back seat quarterbacks. And that is my humble opinion. I am absolutely OK if you disagree with anything I've said or fully disagreeing with me 100%.
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Good read. Great post!
 
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Unfortunately, for the video game generation, real life does not include a reset button when the game is not going as nice and neat as you might choose. Good post Volbackhome.
 
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#14
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Gen.Neyland said:
I'm just high on the Butch 'n Bob Show! They can change everything except the scoreboard.
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They sure do! They only show the UT highlights. They totally ignore the rest of the game. When the Vols lose real bad they just ignore the game and show player profiles and talk about how their doing a great job of building something. Watching that show is pointless even for Vols fans.
 
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I agree that watching the coaches show for actual game review and information is pointless. However the player profiles are nice.
 
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Gen.Neyland said:
I just watched the first half of the BJ show and realized....We almost won!!!!
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Short of Special of teams play or lack there of, it would have been our game to lose to a point. Now that the sting has gone away a bit, I saw great strides in the talent we do have. Got to focus on the positive, give some latitude in the first year or two of a new coaching staff fixing a big train wreck. It's a shame a great portion of our so called fan base cannot and refuse to give time time. Go Vols, Go CBJ
 
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Volbackhomefromtx said:
This is my first ever rant on this board. I started the season thinking I would be satisfied if we won 6 and we haven't lost sight of that goal. If winning six is a goal then losing 6 was inevitable. Don't like losing six, don't like losing even one, and it makes me ill (figuratively) to lose to Georgia, Alabama, and Auburn or anybody else for that matter but we ain't there yet. So, if some of the players are not buying in like some of the fans are not buying in then I guess we should just start all over again. (Sarcasm). What part of building a championship mentality requires a process don't we fans understand? There are peaks and valleys in every process -- we cannot expect a nice and neat upward improvement. We are in a valley now. And with any trendline, there can be rapid improvement in a very short time, gradual improvement, or more declines. Rarely will it stay the same. I happen to agree that stability in coaching is a key to success. No Volfan should quibble on the point that the strength of the Tennessee program prior to the CLK mistake was stability AND recruiting. And don't start some tangential discussion of thinking I am defending or condemning the last few years of CPF; I am simply referring to the long haul from 1977 to 2008. If players are not buying in, then it will take longer for CBJ to recruit the players needed to make the program succeed. On the other hand, the mental approach to a game is also a factor. Not saying that all are buying in but also giving some the benefit of the doubt that some still doubt themselves. And the tendency is there for them, in particular, if they were here last year. I liked the message of "winning that inch." I believe "fighting for that inch" was uppermost in Rajion Neal's mind during his outstanding touching down run yesterday. There's a fine line between over confidence and talking smack and having that little bit of doubt that a player may not be as athletic as the player across the line from him. I believe it's a process, I believe it will take time, and I also believe that the intangible is the collective mentality of the team at any point in time. Otherwise why play the game--we might just as well say it's another top ten team so let's just concede and not play the game and save us all some time. I was hugely disappointed with Missouri and more disappointed with Auburn since I have long considered the schizophrenic team from the state under Tennessee with many mascots an arch enemy. I am from the days when we used to play them very frequently; I remember well the jubilation of TRob's manhandling of the war-dumb-eagles in 1985. Yet who has played as many top ten teams as Tennessee at the time the games were played? I watched CBJ's show and I believe in his process. To me, that show was not just for the the 99.9999% of the audience who don't play football but also a message to the team itself as well as recruits. CBJ is walking a tight line with hard-nosed coaching and constructive criticism versus maintaining enthusiasm and building on the Volunteer tradition so that we recruit the very players we need to get us back to where we ultimately want to be all at the same time of having to contend with the voluminous number of back seat quarterbacks. And that is my humble opinion. I am absolutely OK if you disagree with anything I've said or fully disagreeing with me 100%.
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Love this, couldn't agree more
but dude, paragraphs are your friend
 
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He's a cartoon....we put the grand kids down in front of the TV to watch and they laugh, giggle and point like he's bugs Bunny....great babysitting device....
 
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I liked it better when it was the CJM and CPF show because they didn't have as many commercials, played entire game and didn't have worthless commentators on there.
 
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Volbackhomefromtx said:
This is my first ever rant on this board. I started the season thinking I would be satisfied if we won 6 and we haven't lost sight of that goal. If winning six is a goal then losing 6 was inevitable. Don't like losing six, don't like losing even one, and it makes me ill (figuratively) to lose to Georgia, Alabama, and Auburn or anybody else for that matter but we ain't there yet. So, if some of the players are not buying in like some of the fans are not buying in then I guess we should just start all over again. (Sarcasm). What part of building a championship mentality requires a process don't we fans understand? There are peaks and valleys in every process -- we cannot expect a nice and neat upward improvement. We are in a valley now. And with any trendline, there can be rapid improvement in a very short time, gradual improvement, or more declines. Rarely will it stay the same. I happen to agree that stability in coaching is a key to success. No Volfan should quibble on the point that the strength of the Tennessee program prior to the CLK mistake was stability AND recruiting. And don't start some tangential discussion of thinking I am defending or condemning the last few years of CPF; I am simply referring to the long haul from 1977 to 2008. If players are not buying in, then it will take longer for CBJ to recruit the players needed to make the program succeed. On the other hand, the mental approach to a game is also a factor. Not saying that all are buying in but also giving some the benefit of the doubt that some still doubt themselves. And the tendency is there for them, in particular, if they were here last year. I liked the message of "winning that inch." I believe "fighting for that inch" was uppermost in Rajion Neal's mind during his outstanding touching down run yesterday. There's a fine line between over confidence and talking smack and having that little bit of doubt that a player may not be as athletic as the player across the line from him. I believe it's a process, I believe it will take time, and I also believe that the intangible is the collective mentality of the team at any point in time. Otherwise why play the game--we might just as well say it's another top ten team so let's just concede and not play the game and save us all some time. I was hugely disappointed with Missouri and more disappointed with Auburn since I have long considered the schizophrenic team from the state under Tennessee with many mascots an arch enemy. I am from the days when we used to play them very frequently; I remember well the jubilation of TRob's manhandling of the war-dumb-eagles in 1985. Yet who has played as many top ten teams as Tennessee at the time the games were played? I watched CBJ's show and I believe in his process. To me, that show was not just for the the 99.9999% of the audience who don't play football but also a message to the team itself as well as recruits. CBJ is walking a tight line with hard-nosed coaching and constructive criticism versus maintaining enthusiasm and building on the Volunteer tradition so that we recruit the very players we need to get us back to where we ultimately want to be all at the same time of having to contend with the voluminous number of back seat quarterbacks. And that is my humble opinion. I am absolutely OK if you disagree with anything I've said or fully disagreeing with me 100%.
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I'd like to buy a paragraph break for 100, Pat (Sajak).
 
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Volbackhomefromtx said:
This is my first ever rant on this board. I started the season thinking I would be satisfied if we won 6 and we haven't lost sight of that goal. If winning six is a goal then losing 6 was inevitable. Don't like losing six, don't like losing even one, and it makes me ill (figuratively) to lose to Georgia, Alabama, and Auburn or anybody else for that matter but we ain't there yet. So, if some of the players are not buying in like some of the fans are not buying in then I guess we should just start all over again. (Sarcasm). What part of building a championship mentality requires a process don't we fans understand? There are peaks and valleys in every process -- we cannot expect a nice and neat upward improvement. We are in a valley now. And with any trendline, there can be rapid improvement in a very short time, gradual improvement, or more declines. Rarely will it stay the same. I happen to agree that stability in coaching is a key to success. No Volfan should quibble on the point that the strength of the Tennessee program prior to the CLK mistake was stability AND recruiting. And don't start some tangential discussion of thinking I am defending or condemning the last few years of CPF; I am simply referring to the long haul from 1977 to 2008. If players are not buying in, then it will take longer for CBJ to recruit the players needed to make the program succeed. On the other hand, the mental approach to a game is also a factor. Not saying that all are buying in but also giving some the benefit of the doubt that some still doubt themselves. And the tendency is there for them, in particular, if they were here last year. I liked the message of "winning that inch." I believe "fighting for that inch" was uppermost in Rajion Neal's mind during his outstanding touching down run yesterday. There's a fine line between over confidence and talking smack and having that little bit of doubt that a player may not be as athletic as the player across the line from him. I believe it's a process, I believe it will take time, and I also believe that the intangible is the collective mentality of the team at any point in time. Otherwise why play the game--we might just as well say it's another top ten team so let's just concede and not play the game and save us all some time. I was hugely disappointed with Missouri and more disappointed with Auburn since I have long considered the schizophrenic team from the state under Tennessee with many mascots an arch enemy. I am from the days when we used to play them very frequently; I remember well the jubilation of TRob's manhandling of the war-dumb-eagles in 1985. Yet who has played as many top ten teams as Tennessee at the time the games were played? I watched CBJ's show and I believe in his process. To me, that show was not just for the the 99.9999% of the audience who don't play football but also a message to the team itself as well as recruits. CBJ is walking a tight line with hard-nosed coaching and constructive criticism versus maintaining enthusiasm and building on the Volunteer tradition so that we recruit the very players we need to get us back to where we ultimately want to be all at the same time of having to contend with the voluminous number of back seat quarterbacks. And that is my humble opinion. I am absolutely OK if you disagree with anything I've said or fully disagreeing with me 100%.
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You are 100% correct...that IS a rant. :)

Love it though....
 
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