Calm down! Only 16 games...

[madbamahater]

Most things don't shock me about our irrational and unstable fan base. But, this morning someone was so heated that they were saying basically everything but fire the coach.

Totally and irrationally ignoring the fact that Worley missed 3 or 4 series and it completely swung the game.

Worley plays, Vols win!!

I think bUTch is doing a heck of a job and things are certainly trending up!!

He has only coached 16 games people!!!!!!

 

[Jmikan]

Tennessee is by far the best 2 loss team in the nation. We looked good against a team that was "supposed to run away with the east". With that being said the east is still wide open and I think we have progressed nicely!

 

[WolfenVOL]

I heartily agree with you, 100% behind CBJ.

 

[volfanjustin]

Is it possible to be behind the team and coach and be critical of some of the calls/decisions?

 

[DaddyChad]

Is it possible to be behind the team and coach and be critical of some of the calls/decisions?

Yes. It's easier to second guess when the team is losing though. Even the bad calls/decisions are forgotten in wins and every coach makes suspect calls even Spurrier and Saban.

 

[james_govols]

Am I the only one that thinks the majority of the board is okay with the direction of the program?

 

[volfanjustin]

Am I the only one that thinks the majority of the board is okay with the direction of the program?

My feelings are:
Jones is moving in right direction
Big time upgrade over Dooley
Recruiting is great
Team has improved

But, how long do we accept moral victories? For me I think they should win 6 this year and starting next season no more moral victories, time to start winning 8 games.

 

[VolFan4Life87]

Am I the only one that thinks the majority of the board is okay with the direction of the program?

No you're not, but the board is full of people who feel the need to start threads being board nannies. Granted, there are idiots starting threads on Gameday that draw out the board nanny in people. Gotta love VN

 

[jlf2n]

I put this on you more than I do whoever it was you were talking to (because that's how I'd treat myself so bare with me)

You've got to be able to identify stupid people and keep them at arms length. let whatever they say go through one ear and out the other. Obviously whoever you were talking to knows as much about football as my dumba55 neighbor who is a UGA fan. I actually blocked his number the other day. Total ass clown of a fan who only wants to talk about how great the dawgs are and how we suck, still 2 years away, dawgs still win the NC, yadda yadda yadda.

I work with nothing but dawg grads, some of which are boosters and personal friends with Richt and after I told them how this guy was acting and the txts he was sending they all agreed that he is not only a idiot, but an embarrassment to their program. Just don't let people like that rent space in your head. It's the same when peoe complain about the Bleacher Report website. To me that's like complaining about what someone wrote in the national inquirer.

 

[james_govols]

My feelings are:
Jones is moving in right direction
Big time upgrade over Dooley
Recruiting is great
Team has improved

But, how long do we accept moral victories? For me I think they should win 6 this year and starting next season no more moral victories, time to start winning 8 games.

Was Saturday a moral victory to you? It wasn't to me. Saturday was a loss. We competed with Georgia. We will compete with most SEC teams the rest of the season. You win some and you lose some. CBJ has done wonders in his second season here. I think most of the people on this board realize that.

I wouldn't count us out as an 8 win team this year (bowl game included).

 

[SaintLouisVol]

Is it possible to be behind the team and coach and be critical of some of the calls/decisions?

It is absolutely possible. I have been a sports fan for 30 years, and questioning the decisions is just part of the game. It's the irrational rants that are intolerable. (and I am not accusing you of such. I am speaking generally)

But, how long do we accept moral victories? For me I think they should win 6 this year and starting next season no more moral victories, time to start winning 8 games.

There is no such thing as a moral victory. I don't understand how being encouraged by the play of the team in a loss is labeled a moral victory.

As you stated, the team is better than they were. All indicators point there. But, the truth is, they've lost two games that most rational folks thought they would lose. But, their play in those games ought to give hope for future games against lesser teams. I don't get how acknowledging that and being optimistic is deemed as complacent with losing.

 

[volfanjustin]

Was Saturday a moral victory to you? It wasn't to me. Saturday was a loss. We competed with Georgia. We will compete with most SEC teams the rest of the season. You win some and you lose some. CBJ has done wonders in his second season here. I think most of the people on this board realize that.

I wouldn't count us out as an 8 win team this year (bowl game included).

I agree it was a loss but a lot of the fanbase accepts it as a moral victory. I don't see 8 wins but would be very excited if they could get there.

 

[JackHVFL]

Tennessee is by far the best 2 loss team in the nation. We looked good against a team that was "supposed to run away with the east". With that being said the east is still wide open and I think we have progressed nicely!

Thought this was interesting... I guess the only real competition is USCe?

 

[FLVOL_79]

Is it possible to be behind the team and coach and be critical of some of the calls/decisions?

Yep. During the game I was wondering why we would stop doing what was working to try and switch things up. Oh well, the boys almost pulled it off.

 

[volfanjustin]

It is absolutely possible. I have been a sports fan for 30 years, and questioning the decisions is just part of the game. It's irrational rants that are intolerable. (and I am not accusing you of such. I am speaking generally)




There is no such thing are a moral victory. I don't understand how being encouraged by the play of the team in a loss is labeled a moral victory.

As you stated, the team is better than they were. All indicators point there. But, the truth is, they've two games that most rational folks thought they would lose. But, their play in those games ought to give hope for future games against lesser teams. I don't get how acknowledging that and being optimistic is deemed as complacent with losing.

I agree wit you. OU will be in the final 4 playoff and Georgia has the Heisman trophy winner playing for them. Team has improved greatly, no doubt. So with all this then this team should be able to win 1 of, if not 2 of the Missouri, USC, Florida and Ole Miss games? That fair?

I am 100% behind Jones, staff and players but I don't think a 3rd and goal in the OU game where they went 5 wide no back in the formation was a good call.

 

[madbamahater]

Is it possible to be behind the team and coach and be critical of some of the calls/decisions?

Yes, and I am critical of some of the OC's calls especially during critical moments.

But this individual was nearly calling for bUTch's head! After only 16 games and with the unfortunate Worley situation!

 

[SDV]

Every Vol fan that I talk to loves Jones, what he is doing and the excitement and direction of the program. They all understand what he inherited from Dooley and that we will be great over the next few years. And then I come on Volnation and see people complaining.

It's really easy to understand. They do not represent 99.99% of our fans and will never be happy with anything regardless of results.

The best thing to do is ignore them and feel sorry that they have such a negative life. Go Vols!

 

[alavolfan]

Long and short... We WILL win the ones we should, and maybe a surprise or two going through the rest of the season... We will be 8-4 and go bowling...calm down, people..we are light years from where we were and headed in the right direction.

 

[windyvol]

Tennessee is by far the best 2 loss team in the nation. We looked good against a team that was "supposed to run away with the east". With that being said the east is still wide open and I think we have progressed nicely!

Arkansas looks pretty good...

 

[DaddyChad]

I think most realistic fans thought this was a 6 or 7 win team when the season started. I think this team has played better than that so far. We still have to actually put things together and win a game versus a decent SEC opponent though.

 

[volfanjustin]

Yes, and I am critical of some of the OC's calls especially during critical moments.

But this individual was nearly calling for bUTch's head! After only 16 games and with the unfortunate Worley situation!

Understood. Anyone calling for him to be fired is not very bright or realistic. Not to mention that would kill this program for many many years

 

[sjt18]

UT went into UGA to face a team with more talent and far more experience. UGA has the best RB in CFB and back ups that aren't bad either. UT's OL is still very much a work in progress and at times little more than a sieve. UGA was heavily favored and deserved to be.

In the face of that, UT's players showed nothing less than grit and competitiveness. To me it was like the first Rocky movie... they kept getting up. They kept coming back. They kept throwing punches.

In spite of all the "experts" here, the coaches were able to game plan around a significant roster deficit and weak OL. The O put up 32 pts and over 400 yds. Unlike UGA that got a couple of gifts... UT's O earned every point.

Mistakes were made but unlike any time in the last 14 years except for the 2 years Cut was around.... I have confidence that those mistakes will be corrected. Jones' day at a time philosophy has me sold when there was a time that I REALLY WASN'T SOLD. The error reduction and improvement from OU to UGA was drastic. If even a fraction of that much progress is made with Pearson coming back vs UF... the Gators are in trouble.

 

[sjt18]

Every Vol fan that I talk to loves Jones, what he is doing and the excitement and direction of the program. They all understand what he inherited from Dooley and that we will be great over the next few years. And then I come on Volnation and see people complaining.

It's really easy to understand. They do not represent 99.99% of our fans and will never be happy with anything regardless of results.

The best thing to do is ignore them and feel sorry that they have such a negative life. Go Vols!

Earlier in the year I found myself arguing a lot here while playing "what ifs". I said that last year was an underperformance of the talent they had. I still believe it was whatever the reason. People went nuts on me for suggesting that Jones needed a 6 win season this year to stay off the hot seat... not fired mind you... just to avoid a '15 hot seat.

I was accused of being "negative" but more than that I was just saying "if" this happens then "this" will be the likely result.

In short, I could have told you that some of these guys would be here irrationally calling for heads to roll or denying signs of progress. I've seen it before.


My prediction for this team has not changed. Well coached (I'm very impressed so far) this is a 6-8 regular season win team. My prediction from the start was that OU, UGA, and Bama were so talented that they were long shots for the Vols. After OU, I felt more confident about UGA. After UGA, I feel more confident about Bama.... granted there's ground to cover between now and then. Talent wise... UT had no business being in a position to win last Saturday. Jones and staff once again badly outcoached UGA. Next year IMO, that turns into a string of wins as UT catches up in talent.

 

[fade route]

Am I the only one that thinks the majority of the board is okay with the direction of the program?

No you're not the only one. A new phenomenon on VN is to start straw man threads attacking a few in the minority so that the 0P can appear to be the loan rational Vol fan

 

[sjt18]

No you're not the only one. A new phenomenon on VN is to start straw man threads attacking a few in the minority so that the 0P can appear to be the loan rational Vol fan

Loan? Who were they borrowed from?:lolabove:

You are right but some of the irrationally negative and critical posters are pretty noisy right now. It makes them seem like a greater number than they are.


I said early in the year that I wasn't impressed with the coaching last year. I wasn't. I said they needed to win me over... they have.

By the end of training camp, I was a firm believer in Jones' player development ability.

There have been a few bad play calls but there always will be. Overall, the game planning and execution to include playcalling has been very good IMO. The team is continuously improving. Young talented players are very quickly correcting their mistakes... and aren't committing them repeatedly before doing so.


IF they win enough this year to keep recruiting momentum then I believe this staff will win championships for UT.