Cameron Carr Transferring [Baylor]

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Stoerner Fumbles said:
1. Carr is leaving. Carr believes he can preserve eligibility, make more money and play more. Whether he is right or not doesn’t matter.

2. Carr has acted like a spoiled turd off and on the whole time he’s been here. I’ve expressed in the past that the legend of Carr has always been better than the actual Carr. He could keep it together in spurts, but ultimately acted selfishly in several instances.

3. Last week, we agreed to a better NIL for 25. He left anyway under some “advice”. He’s been close with Sanchez at UVA in the past, but also has some Louisville and Mizzou connections. Not sure where he’s going given his baggage.

4. There is (allegedly) some truth to the creepy story of Carr and DJ and (allegedly) underage girls. It contributed to DJ’s departure, but more importantly to Awaka’s. I said at the time that Tobe had some moral issues with certain players. I haven’t commented on who specifically, or why, because it involved a player’s family and (allegedly) minors. He was disgusted, and gave an ultimatum that resulted in Carr staying and him leaving. Barnes couldn’t take sides in a matter he knew nothing about, but Barnes loved Awaka and didn’t want him to go. To be a head coach today, you have to be shielded and shield yourself from certain realities. There are lots of groupies, and lots of temptations for these young men. I get that, and I understand there are lots of gray areas. That said, there is nothing acceptable about players compromising underage girls, if true. There are aspects of the Carr situation that have been messy and difficult from the start. He’s better off gone. Carr dug his own hole, dug out of it a few times, but he burned his last ticket. Maybe he needs a new start somewhere else. I’m not a pitchfork guy when it comes to player departures, but I am a bit relieved that he’s going.
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Thanks for some insight.
 
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BillyHoyleVol said:
4. This was not a one time thing for DJ and Cam. I’m (very) personally glad the two of them are gone…especially Jefferson. Idgaf if costs us a national championship; I can root for MY Vols with a clear conscious again.
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I’m extremely glad that I didn’t know about any of that before they left
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
1. Carr is leaving. Carr believes he can preserve eligibility, make more money and play more. Whether he is right or not doesn’t matter.

2. Carr has acted like a spoiled turd off and on the whole time he’s been here. I’ve expressed in the past that the legend of Carr has always been better than the actual Carr. He could keep it together in spurts, but ultimately acted selfishly in several instances.

3. Last week, we agreed to a better NIL for 25. He left anyway under some “advice”. He’s been close with Sanchez at UVA in the past, but also has some Louisville and Mizzou connections. Not sure where he’s going given his baggage.

4. There is (allegedly) some truth to the creepy story of Carr and DJ and (allegedly) underage girls. It contributed to DJ’s departure, but more importantly to Awaka’s. I said at the time that Tobe had some moral issues with certain players. I haven’t commented on who specifically, or why, because it involved a player’s family and (allegedly) minors. He was disgusted, and gave an ultimatum that resulted in Carr staying and him leaving. Barnes couldn’t take sides in a matter he knew nothing about, but Barnes loved Awaka and didn’t want him to go. To be a head coach today, you have to be shielded and shield yourself from certain realities. There are lots of groupies, and lots of temptations for these young men. I get that, and I understand there are lots of gray areas. That said, there is nothing acceptable about players compromising underage girls, if true. There are aspects of the Carr situation that have been messy and difficult from the start. He’s better off gone. Carr dug his own hole, dug out of it a few times, but he burned his last ticket. Maybe he needs a new start somewhere else. I’m not a pitchfork guy when it comes to player departures, but I am a bit relieved that he’s going.
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Damn if thats true it makes losing Awaka suck even more and Barnes was put in a really messed up situation. He could have just did the 'right' thing based on little to no information. Or lose Awaka.
 
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The only statistic Carr was top 3 in while he was in the floor was missed shot attempts per minute. Dude jacked and missed every shot but about 1 that came at a crucial time in the tournament and then many thought he was gonna break out. Had a friends dad who used to joke,”when they passed me the ball I assumed that meant I must be open and they want me to shoot it.” Carr believed that fully.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Pathetic. He gets a freak injury that could happen to anyone playing for any team so his “circle” decides he shouldn’t fulfill his commitment to the team.
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There is no such thing as 'commitment' among college athletes any more. They are mercenaries.
Zakai will be the last VFL in UT basketball history.
 
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MinisterofDef#92 said:
HOF coach has a Top 3 player in all categories but CRB just "couldn't see him". LMAO...weak PR spin attempt - truly clown show kind of stuff. Cam Carr, his family, and advisors all look like fools and nobody's buying what they are selling.
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Yeah. If he was that good, it would have shown in the games. It’s not like we never got to watch him play.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
There is no such thing as 'commitment' among college athletes any more. They are mercenaries.
Zakai will be the last VFL in UT basketball history.
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WRONG, there will always be SOME players that emulate the bottom feeders of the fanbase, and some may move on for the betterment of self AND team, but there are still quality character guys in abundance. Heck even DK became a VFL after moving up for his successful best shot at his future. Gainey found his home after transfer, Mayshack is for sure VFL from day 1. Lots of candidates on this roster, Phillips and JP for instance. Glad #2 took a shot too.

It is great when the first stop is a fit, but misses are misses. Fit is fit. Glad Okpara and Igor came in so not going to cheapshot Carr on the way out. Just not the fit, even as inconvenient as it is due to a short roster. Maybe Coach has a better fit up his sleeve, has in the past.
 
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cardvolfan said:
Pay the players they said. Give them the same movement options coaches have they said. All this crap has turned into an absolute mess, but now we are stuck with this. Give me the good old days.
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In the “good old days” we don’t add Millicic, Dubar and Lanier. It is a 2 way street as they say, but we have benefited more in this set up than we have been hurt.
 
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Ghost of Archvol said:
In the “good old days” we don’t add Millicic, Dubar and Lanier. It is a 2 way street as they say, but we have benefited more in this set up than we have been hurt.
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To be fair we probably still could. They all came from lower end schools and even before those types of guys transferred up after having good seasons.
 
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VoltillweFall said:
Supposedly from the Carr family View attachment 709072View attachment 709073
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If this is truly a message from the Carr family (who knows) then good riddance. I don’t believe for a second that Carr tried to meet with Barnes and the Deacon refused to do so. Complete and utter lie.

Also, to say Barnes didn’t support him or believe in him is utter trash. If there is one thing that is known about Barnes, it’s that while he is a tough coach on the floor, he has nothing but compete love and admiration for his players. You don’t see guys like JJJ or Knecht get emotional last year in their final games if you aren’t treated well.

Sounds like the Carr family has a lot of problems and issues with maturity. I see where Carr gets his attitude from.
 
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