Can someone please help me understand?

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I grew up in Knoxville and attended UT for a few years. Since then I have had the luxury of attending other college football games at many venues besides our beloved Neyland Stadium. And because of these 'other visits', I simply can't understand how this coaching staff can't sell UT Football any better than they have! Knoxville is truely a unique atmosphere for college football. SI even voted it the Best Stadium in the country a few years back... With the tradition, the facilities, the long list of current and past NFL players, hell, even the coaching staff, why aren't these kids looking at UT? I grew up with UT being 'wide receiver U', but can't seem to find any proof of that tag anymore. But the more I look at what we have 'to sell', I find it sickning to see the likes of Kansas State, Minnesota, Oklahoma State having better recruiting classes than The University of Tennessee!

So if you have any ideas that can help me understand this madness, please let me know!
 
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Too many factors to list. One problem is off field issues. Question mark coaching staff/leadership. Maybe the most important thing is the normal ebb and flow that many programs are seeing now. Look at FSU, ND and many other powerhouse schools all going through tough stretches. Maybe I'm all wrong we'll just have to wait and see.
 
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justingroves said:
ND had the #2 class today.
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Lends credence that kids eventually will not care how a school did during a year when they were in HS. I think the jury is still out on Weis, but ND does look like they're going places.

They also haven't won a bowl game since 1994.
 
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Yes but if you look at their overall performance the past few years they have been down.
 
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KB5252 said:
Yes but if you look at their overall performance the past few years they have been down.
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But it doesn't seem to hurt their recruiting when they have had back to back top 5 classes.

So, in a roundabout way, that is not an excuse for poor recruiting classes.
 
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DC Vol said:
Lends credence that kids eventually will not care how a school did during a year when they were in HS. I think the jury is still out on Weis, but ND does look like they're going places.

They also haven't won a bowl game since 1994.
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I hope they don't win one until 2014.
 
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Well we keep changing the assistant coaches and we stay the same. Thunder Thornton is personal friends will Phil so CPF will retire when he chooses

UNLESS

Attendance drops to about 90,000
 
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justingroves said:
But it doesn't seem to hurt their recruiting when they have had back to back top 5 classes.

So, in a roundabout way, that is not an excuse for poor recruiting classes.
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Did not realize that. I still think we will be ok. It is going to get harder and harder to recruit. Look how many good recruiting coaches surround us now.
 
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KB5252 said:
Did not realize that. I still think we will be ok. It is going to get harder and harder to recruit. Look how many good recruiting coaches surround us now.
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I didn't honestly expect them to earn that title here with only a month under the gun. At this point next year if Scott hasn't brought in some quality talent from Va. I'll be a bit let down.
 
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The comment about Florida St and ND's recruiting be down, should be stricken from this post.

They had off-field issues and both finished in TOP 7
 
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I should have made it clearer. The programs overall were down. I don't have the time to research other teams recruits but they were bound to have been down the past couple of years. What else would account for their drop off. If I am wrong please let me know.
 
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everyone places too freaking much empahsis on ranking the recruiting classes...
prove it on the field.
huge difference in high school and college as many have seen...
THOUSANDS of high school kids every year are stars yet many of them fizzle in college...so do many 5 star recruits.
 
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While I agree with the "over empahsis" on all the recruiting sites/ stars/ rankings out there, UT's class just doesn't get it done. I think a few of these guys will be play makers in the next few years... But we ARE NOT listed as one of the schools to beat anymore! As I look over the Top 100/150 or whatever list you see, Tennessee has lost it's place amongst the Elite! And regardless whether I believe in stars or rankings, this class is NOT Elite and doesn't fill the holes that needed to be filled!
 
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JSS Nashville said:
But we ARE NOT listed as one of the schools to beat anymore!!
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It helps when you can actually beat your rivals and don't have a 5-6 season. I think we got stuck behind Georgia going out strong this year which made a lot of people forget about us. If we go about our business this next season and finally manage to beat Meyer and continue to kill Richt people will take notice again. Our main problem is we've gotten to the promised land (SEC Champ game) multiple times in the past 10 years, and have simply failed to get it done.
 
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I am honestly concerned. I feel we are becoming Arkansas. :sick:

Alabama sucked this year and look what daddy saban brought to T-town!

I am not shaken by rankings/5 star crap, but when you have only have 18 signees, and you don't even sign a DT, then I become concerned.

Frankly, this is not a national championsip class, this is a Peach bowl class. :banghead2:

I hope Hamilton likes Christmas in Atlanta....
 
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ole_orange said:
I am honestly concerned. I feel we are becoming Arkansas. :sick:

Alabama sucked this year and look what daddy saban brought to T-town!

I am not shaken by rankings/5 star crap, but when you have only have 18 signees, and you don't even sign a DT, then I become concerned.

Frankly, this is not a national championsip class, this is a Peach bowl class. :banghead2:

I hope Hamilton likes Christmas in Atlanta....
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About a third of last years class redshirted so that should help this class out some
 
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ole_orange said:
I am honestly concerned. I feel we are becoming Arkansas. :sick:

Alabama sucked this year and look what daddy saban brought to T-town!

I am not shaken by rankings/5 star crap, but when you have only have 18 signees, and you don't even sign a DT, then I become concerned.

Frankly, this is not a national championsip class, this is a Peach bowl class. :banghead2:

I hope Hamilton likes Christmas in Atlanta....
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Tennessee signed a DT by the way.
 
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ole_orange said:
Yeah, a kid from Murfreesboro that was not even on rivals or scout.
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So because Rivals and scout don't have him (which they do, he's a 2 star guy) he doesn't exist?

That's great. Who needs to watch games when Rivals and Scout can already tell me what is going to happen?
 
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I may be wrong, but this DT from Seigel (Murfreesboro, TN) got attention only after he played well in a local all-star game! His signing only validates my point! UT is the ONLY SEC school to offer him a ride. Since when did UT have to settle for players? But desperate times call for desperate measures!

ELITE- n : a group or class of persons enjoying superior status
 
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I don't get thrilled about recruiting anymore. I have seen top recruiting classes at UT do absolutely nothing and not-so-great ones do better than expected. Being tops in recruiting does not guarantee being tops on the field.

:peace2:
 
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JSS Nashville said:
I may be wrong, but this DT from Seigel (Murfreesboro, TN) got attention only after he played well in a local all-star game! His signing only validates my point! UT is the ONLY SEC school to offer him a ride. Since when did UT have to settle for players? But desperate times call for desperate measures!

ELITE- n : a group or class of persons enjoying superior status
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he got attention from the recruiting services after committing to UT. The fact he suddenly jumped on their board should tell you something. Maybe the coaches knew more about him than rivals or scout :eek:hmy:
 
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ole_orange said:
Yeah, a kid from Murfreesboro that was not even on rivals or scout.
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A kid who never had the opportunity to pay and go to combines. A kid whose coach, for whatever reason, never sent tape to rivals or scout. A kid who is comparable is size, athletic ability, and playing intensity to Justin Harrell. Yeah, you're right he has no chance of being any good because he was not on rivals or scout.
 
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