Can / will Fulmer turn it around...

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(rockydoc @ Jan 6 said:
The real question is how many sheep will stay in the herd if we go seven more years without an SEC ring or a BCS bowl and looking at the other coaches in the SEC East I think this senario is highly probable.
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Seven more years?!? How does not being ready to write Fulmer off translate into being okay if we don't win the SECC or play in a BCS bowl for 7 more years :dunno:

Even sheep have their limits :ninja:

 
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(rockydoc @ Jan 6 said:
looking at the other coaches in the SEC East I think this senario is highly probable.
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Answer: Coaches in the East not named Spurrier who will end their careers without as many wins or NC's as Fulmer.

The nancy's are still in full effect I see.
 
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Want to bet on the SEC Title #?

If Richt & UM stay at their current schools, I feel they will easily blow by Fulmer. Richt will no doubt be heavily courted by FSU in the future, possibly even Miami.

Of course SOS already has over 3 TIMES as many SEC Titles as CPF.
 
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(volmanjr @ Jan 5 said:
ok we've gone from sheep herders to roofers and way past dead horse beaters what's next? how about undertakers so we can kill this thread!!!
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THis could challenge The Topic that will never die?
 
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I just love the "Fulmer is god" crowd who think that if you don't like Fulmer, think he's bombed these past few years, or completely trash him that you automatically trash UT football. Fulmer is not UT football. Coaches come and go but are NOT the program. It's the same thinking that those who criticise Bush are anti-American. People try to personify an idea into a person and that's ludicrous.

I've been on the side that has criticised Fulmer. I will not waver and will not back down. Fulmer is responsible for letting this program tank into the hole it's in. Had some changes been made even just one year ago, the criticism would be a lot less. But his loyalty or whatever caused him to stretch this out one more year to the breaking point. Yeah he admits some responsibility. Good for him. But honestly should it have even come to this point? Does Fulmer get a free pass from the "kool aid" crowd or even no acknowledgement that this even happened to begin with?

Again, to beat the dead horse a little more, this was not just "one losing season" or "one bad year out of many good years". Those who say this claim we were super superior all these years and then we had this one bad year. Tell me this: how can you go from super high speed superior top programs in the nation to bottom feeder in one year or better yet overnight WITH the same coaches, same players, same schemes, etc.? What causes an overnight meltdown? NOTHING!!!! This DID NOT HAPPEN OVERNIGHT!!! Regardless if it even did, Fulmer would be ultimately responsible. But clearly you can't take the same players, coaches, etc. from top to bottom overnight. There HAD to be something going on behind the scenes that festered for quite some time. Those of you who can only use a record to defend your argument have to see that something was going on for quite some time. A record covered it up for most of you. Finally when the "record" blanket was pulled off, we ALL saw that there was a problem. But what astounds me is that even with everything uncovered and all the comments out there, including Rob Smith brokenhearted about JRS being booted, you STILL don't acknowledge anything but one token bad season.

Now don't get me wrong. Fulmer can turn this around. If he does, good for him. But he has a black mark and a question mark by his name in my book and should be thoroughly scrutinized because he allowed our program to get where it is now. This wasn't one bad play call or a bad hiring. This was a tanking of a top program in the country. This does not deserve a hand clap OR a slap on the wrist. I'd say even the boys on high are looking tightly over his shoulder breathing down his neck saying if you even stray one step in the direction of doing this again, you're gone. Game over.

So call me negative, pessimist, or whatever. Fulmer can turn it around and I think with the pressure on him and eyes watching he probably will. But like a child who does something extreme to disappoint a parent, they still love and care for him, but they sure as hell will tighten a leash and keep a much closer eye on him until that trust is regained.
 
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Fulmer has but one option this upcoming season...to make MAJOR improvement. And I'm not speaking of sweating out a 10 point, 3 point, 7 point last quarter rally / save over the UAB's, the U. of Memphis or even much much lesser talented, undermanned SEC squads.

REAL improvement on offense has got to be demanded by the Head Coach & continued improvement & expansion throughout the season must be evident. Otherwise recruiting under Fulmer for 07 will be average at best. Let's face it WINNING recruits.

Evidently some here feel there is "something" the National media has against UT. To that I'll say until UT does something with all the excellent talent we have on board, the ESPN's, SI's, etc. have a strong case.

>>>>>>>CSPIN....
EXCELLENT POST!

Because one may be critical they should not automatically doom you to be a Vol hater or supporter of another team. I have long been critical of UT's Staff being unimaginative, lazy, stagnant & boringly predictable w our near 40 year old over exposed offensive scheme. This year, the LUCKY breaks went against us instead of falling into our laps. Our Coaches & in particular the head man was found out.

EXCELLENT POST MY FRIEND!
 
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(cotton @ Jan 5 said:
Jake, I like your post. Does that make me a sheep or a lemming?
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I'd say a fool. You just agreed to a 14 year olds "historically" based view of UT football. :clapping:
 
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From what I can tell in reading the posts a lot of the "sheep" are not so much Fulmer idolizers. It seems that many of them just accept the fact the Fulmer will be the coach for the '06 season and they do not see anything productive in riding him down since we are stuck with him for at least another season whether we like it or not. There is some wisdom in that line of thinking, however, it can be fun to keep up the anti-Fulmer rant so I see the appeal of the other side of the debate. Now that the BCS NC game, and therefore the college football season, is officially over I am ready to let go of the disappointment of 2005 and hope for something better this year.

GO VOLS!! and pass the kool-aid. :gril1:
 
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Some posters on this board seem in some form or fashion to be redundant with their post, they simply are dropping or adding words.You get to where you see their name and know the basis of the post without reading it. :banghead:
 
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(RealVol @ Jan 6 said:
Want to bet on the SEC Title #?

If Richt & UM stay at their current schools, I feel they will easily blow by Fulmer.
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How exactly would this bet go? We going to promise to remember this in 5 years when Fulmer adds 1-2 more SEC Titles to his collection?
 
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
(U-T @ Jan 6 said:
How exactly would this bet go? We going to promise to remember this in 5 years when Fulmer adds 1-2 more SEC Titles to his collection?
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Now that is funny
 
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As hard as it may be to believe . . . as wildly successful as St. Mark's first 6 seasons have been, they haven't been as good as Fulmer's first 6 were.
 
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(NCGatorBait @ Jan 6 said:
To the posters that have given up on Fulmer you will be eating these words in a couple yrs.
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I never was for him so i aint worried about it :devilsmoke: :devilsmoke: :devilsmoke: :devilsmoke:
 
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(bleedingorange @ Jan 6 said:
I never was for him so i aint worried about it
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Interesting. So during the NC run I bet you were ranting about him...right?

Or were you too young to remember that?
 
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(bleedingorange @ Jan 6 said:
I never was for him so i aint worried about it :devilsmoke: :devilsmoke: :devilsmoke: :devilsmoke:
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Then if you dont support your coach you are the biggest bandwagoner there is..heck I even supported the Zooker til it was apparant he couldn't turn a turnstyle around! :lol:
 
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(NCGatorBait @ Jan 6 said:
Then if you dont support your coach you are the biggest bandwagoner there is..heck I even supported the Zooker til it was apparant he couldn't turn a turnstyle around! :lol:
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:lolabove:
 
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(U-T @ Jan 6 said:
Interesting. So during the NC run I bet you were ranting about him...right?

Or were you too young to remember that?
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Nope, U-T i aint going to start this sh@# with u today, so just forget it
 
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