Can / will Fulmer turn it around...

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(volinbham @ Dec 29 said:
It doesn't excuse the performance but adds perspective.
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PERSPECTIVE??? This is an internet message board. We don't allow that kind of crazy talk in here!!
 
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(VolunteerHillbilly @ Dec 29 said:
Are you trying to be racist? :bad:
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It's sarcasm - you know seeing things in black and white as opposed to shades of gray. Sheeesh.
 
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(VolunteerHillbilly @ Dec 29 said:
I might be a lot closer to that than you dare imagine.
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Good luck on your new job - check in often to see endless threads criticizing every decision make :biggrin2:

Us sheep will defend you though
 
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This is better than that Crossfire show, when old dude got pissed at Carville and walked off!
 
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(GAVol @ Dec 29 said:
I'm just a Kool Aid drinker.
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Don't forget about the surgically attached orange sunglasses. Apparently I have a custom made sheep sized pair myself.
 
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(holdemvol @ Dec 29 said:
Don't forget about the surgically attached orange sunglasses. Apparently I have a custom made sheep sized pair myself.
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:lolabove: :lolabove: :lolabove: :mf_surrender: :mf_surrender: :mf_surrender:
 
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Hey I'm not concerned w any fan that wears "Orange Tinted" sunglasses. My concern is with the UT Fan that wears the UlTra Thick Orange colored GOGGLES!
Just be REAL when evaluating Fulmers coaching savvy. In my opinion several UT Fans have been blinded too long by many a lame win over the Weak Sisters of the NCAA. In many of those games, UT should have "blown out" the undermanned opponent. Especially considering UT has the advantage of having a UAB, Wyoming, UNLV or WHOEVER COME to Neyland in front of 100,000 PLUS UT Fans and THEY almost pull off the upset. Not to mention disappointing Bowl tallies against some average opponents. My point / question, issue here is if Fulmer can turn around the situation he's solely been responsible of creating over the last 4-5 years.

With absolutely nothing to connect to the Majors era. I have my doubts in TODAY'S sports scenery Fulmer can heavily monitor the necessary changes for UT to make substantial improvement. Bottomline question is why would he allow a proud & elite UT Football Program hit rock bottom before making ANY changes. My friends, I do not pretend to be a football expert, but for YEARS it has been obvious our offense has sucked.

Like Fulmer or not, he's got to start being the true progressive LEADER UT Football so desperately needs. No more wimpy coaching, no more underdeveloped / ill prepared 5 Star player performances & no more moldy, predictable, stale 8 play offensive scheme gameplans should be acceptable!

C'mon UT Fans we have better & we deserve better.
 
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(RealVol @ Dec 29 said:


Hey I'm not concerned w any fan that wears "Orange Tinted" sunglasses. My concern is with the UT Fan that wears the UlTra Thick Orange colored GOGGLES!
Just be REAL when evaluating Fulmers coaching savvy. In my opinion several UT Fans have been blinded too long by many a lame win over the Weak Sisters of the NCAA. In many of those games, UT should have "blown out" the undermanned opponent. Especially considering UT has the advantage of having a UAB, Wyoming, UNLV or WHOEVER COME to Neyland in front of 100,000 PLUS UT Fans and THEY almost pull off the upset. Not to mention disappointing Bowl tallies against some average opponents. My point / question, issue here is if Fulmer can turn around the situation he's solely been responsible of creating over the last 4-5 years.

With absolutely nothing to connect to the Majors era. I have my doubts in TODAY'S sports scenery Fulmer can heavily monitor the necessary changes for UT to make substantial improvement. Bottomline question is why would he allow a proud & elite UT Football Program hit rock bottom before making ANY changes. My friends, I do not pretend to be a football expert, but for YEARS it has been obvious our offense has sucked.

Like Fulmer or not, he's got to start being the true progressive LEADER UT Football so desperately needs. No more wimpy coaching, no more underdeveloped / ill prepared 5 Star player performances & no more moldy, predictable, stale 8 play offensive scheme gameplans should be acceptable!

C'mon UT Fans we have better & we deserve better.
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u better watch that kinda talk in here, some will consider u a troll or bammer in disguise. Just kidding u are 100% right on the money there buddy. :eek:k:
 
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(volinbham @ Dec 29 said:
Yep, it's not at all "sheep-like" to say a coach needs to go after a bad season :blink:

Yep, "Kool-aid" can in no way be associated with those who jump on every mistake and determine it equates to mediocrity and poor leadership :crazy:

Yep, it is in no way hypocritical to label the defenders of Fulmer as sheep, Kool-aid drinkers and morons but then get indignant that those with a different opinion than yours are criticizing you
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Hey I have no problem whatsoever with differing opinions. I have said that numerous times. I have also said what I DO have a problem with. I have a problem with those who defend Fulmer and only have a team record as the only source of defense and those who think Fulmer has done no wrong. To those I will call the kool-aid drinkers, and sheep. I have no problem with that. How is that hypocritical?

There are many opinions on this board I disagree with. But when you only have one sketchy reason to argue a point when the evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of the other side, I will call you out. If you keep giving that sketchy defense I will up the ante.

You obviously missed every point I've made and have jumped on my back without even understanding my argument. Now step outside and come back in and try again.
 
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(volinbham @ Dec 29 said:
It also suggests that this season was an anomaly
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This above statement is why I've used such names as kool-aid drinkers and sheep. Honestly do you think this season was an anomaly? Explain previous years' decline in production, development of NFL talent, offensive production, etc. This has been a downward spiral only coming to a head this year. Had we beat Vandy and went to a bowl, things would be hunk-dory here. Had we beat SC, Sanders would still be on board. But we didn't because of MANY factors that this season finally brought to light. This season was years in the making. It happened behind the scenes. Actually it happened in the open but only a few spotted it. Those who pointed out poor offensive production, execution, discipline issues, etc. long ago were labeled naysayers and doomsdayers.....even now after this season they're still being called this.

I'm disappointed that something so obvious had to take a losing season to be corrected. THAT is the problem many had and still have with Fulmer. A Head Coach should not have taken this long to act. Actually, he didn't even act. It was crowd pressure that forced Sanders out and a losing season that forced the other changes. Again had we squeaked by Vandy I'd seriously doubt anything else would have been done. I don't like the fact that a coach getting paid one of the highest salaries in the game and with his winning record has to make major needed changes only after bombing like the team did. If it takes going down the toilet to make obvious decisions, then EVERYONE needs to question the decision maker.

Seriously if this season was an anomaly, why don't you all go pressure the AD and CPF to bring RS, JRS, and PW back. An anomaly is not a reason to get rid of these guys right? Bring them all back and kiss their posteriors asking for forgiveness.
 
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(CSpindizzy @ Dec 29 said:
This above statement is why I've used such names as kool-aid drinkers and sheep. Honestly do you think this season was an anomaly? Explain previous years' decline in production, development of NFL talent, offensive production, etc. This has been a downward spiral only coming to a head this year. Had we beat Vandy and went to a bowl, things would be hunk-dory here. Had we beat SC, Sanders would still be on board. But we didn't because of MANY factors that this season finally brought to light. This season was years in the making. It happened behind the scenes. Actually it happened in the open but only a few spotted it. Those who pointed out poor offensive production, execution, discipline issues, etc. long ago were labeled naysayers and doomsdayers.....even now after this season they're still being called this.

I'm disappointed that something so obvious had to take a losing season to be corrected. THAT is the problem many had and still have with Fulmer. A Head Coach should not have taken this long to act. Actually, he didn't even act. It was crowd pressure that forced Sanders out and a losing season that forced the other changes. Again had we squeaked by Vandy I'd seriously doubt anything else would have been done. I don't like the fact that a coach getting paid one of the highest salaries in the game and with his winning record has to make major needed changes only after bombing like the team did. If it takes going down the toilet to make obvious decisions, then EVERYONE needs to question the decision maker.

Seriously if this season was an anomaly, why don't you all go pressure the AD and CPF to bring RS, JRS, and PW back. An anomaly is not a reason to get rid of these guys right? Bring them all back and kiss their posteriors asking for forgiveness.
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Dang, CSpin...you've been "bizzy" today. All over the board, and virtually every arrow on the mark.

Remember...poke enough small holes, and even a battleship can be sent to the bottom.

Nice analogy, Huh?

Happy New Yaer.

 
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GW, I think I'm going to have a standard answer and resort to the "copy and paste" function on these types of questions.

As for the 'all over the board' part, with a baby on the way, I've been forced to relocate my home office to either an unfinished room in the basement or finish it by April. I've been locked in the basement working on framing and wiring. I've come out of my hole to check my favorite website and offered a few comments for everyone to ponder.

Good analogy.
 
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Whoever said IF we had beaten Vandy & USC (not the real USC) regardless of how narrow the victory. Everything would be okay at UT was absolUTely correct. UT had both teams at Neyland. UT undoubtley had overall superior talent & UT NEEDED both games, yet UT was embarrassed by their obsolete, slow, stagnant & inferior offensive COACHING! Lucky breaks that warranted a victory for UT in those situations in the past should NEVER be accepted as conditions for UT wins in my opinion. And should never be accepted as being "UT Football" regardless of how desperate.

Unfortunately, in recent history our fans have begun to believe such luck was indeed UT Football.

In this disappointingly dismal yet realistically forth season the only difference was the weaker opponents ended up with a break. Versus UT's superior talent overridding UT's lame coaching OR UT ending up w a last quarter defensive stop, a last minute or second 50 yard winning fg or a last minute timekeeping screw up in UT's favor.

Think about it...
 
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(CSpindizzy @ Dec 29 said:
This above statement is why I've used such names as kool-aid drinkers and sheep. Honestly do you think this season was an anomaly? Explain previous years' decline in production, development of NFL talent, offensive production, etc. This has been a downward spiral only coming to a head this year. Had we beat Vandy and went to a bowl, things would be hunk-dory here. Had we beat SC, Sanders would still be on board. But we didn't because of MANY factors that this season finally brought to light. This season was years in the making. It happened behind the scenes. Actually it happened in the open but only a few spotted it. Those who pointed out poor offensive production, execution, discipline issues, etc. long ago were labeled naysayers and doomsdayers.....even now after this season they're still being called this.

I'm disappointed that something so obvious had to take a losing season to be corrected. THAT is the problem many had and still have with Fulmer. A Head Coach should not have taken this long to act. Actually, he didn't even act. It was crowd pressure that forced Sanders out and a losing season that forced the other changes. Again had we squeaked by Vandy I'd seriously doubt anything else would have been done. I don't like the fact that a coach getting paid one of the highest salaries in the game and with his winning record has to make major needed changes only after bombing like the team did. If it takes going down the toilet to make obvious decisions, then EVERYONE needs to question the decision maker.

Seriously if this season was an anomaly, why don't you all go pressure the AD and CPF to bring RS, JRS, and PW back. An anomaly is not a reason to get rid of these guys right? Bring them all back and kiss their posteriors asking for forgiveness.
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Once again in this thread you are guilty of the sins you ascribe to others (or at least me).

Your statement to me: "You obviously missed every point I've made and have jumped on my back without even understanding my argument. Now step outside and come back in and try again."

And then in this post, you take one sentence from my post and make up a whole series of things behind the post that in no way reflect my thinking on the subject.

Classic

:peace2:
 
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