Cannibalism, Rape, and Murder

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What is your gut reaction when you hear/read a story about:

1. Cannibalism?

2. Rape?

3. 1st Degree Murder?

My gut reactions to the first two involve more outrage than my gut reaction to the latter.

Rationally, though, rape is the least absolute of these acts and there is, in my opinion, no harm done to a body sans soul, which means that rationally, at least for me, I should view both (1) and (3) with the same outrage; yet, as stated above, that is not my initial reaction.
 
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therealUT said:
What is your gut reaction when you hear/read a story about:

1. Cannibalism?

2. Rape?

3. 1st Degree Murder?

My gut reactions to the first two involve more outrage than my gut reaction to the latter.

Rationally, though, rape is the least absolute of these acts and there is, in my opinion, no harm done to a body sans soul, which means that rationally, at least for me, I should view both (1) and (3) with the same outrage; yet, as stated above, that is not my initial reaction.
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Ah hell, it's lunch so I'll play along.

Cannibalism
Initial reaction tempered by "why?" coming into play. Are we talking a rugby team crashed in the Andes? Are we talking a ghoul that just gets off on eating people after the fact or an outright cannibal that considers people prey? That last one also brings #3 into play as they have to murder first and go cannibal second. To the first scenario while a pretty repulsive idea it's really not too hard, I think, for most to wrap their heads around the concept that leaving meat to rot that could save you makes no sense as long as you had nothing to do with the provider's demise. The second scenario (ghoul) just seems to carry a "They WHAT?!!" incredulity to it that keeps that "gut punch" from landing as hard as it might. (or maybe that's just me) The intentional hunting of humans for food is a pretty big taboo. So much so it's almost hard for me to grasp as real outside a complete psycho being involved. From that assumption you (well I) always end up thinking of them as nutcase murderers first and whatever they do with the body (cannibalism, necrophilia, etc) just pouring crazy gravy on that fact.

Rape
Really hate rape. And I mean real rape here. A girl getting drunk and giving a guy a lapdance at a party and yelling "rape" when he pinches her boob doesn't count. A terrified girl succumbing to or being made to perform overtly sexual acts by force or threat of force just turns my insides black. There's just no way to parse or equivocate that, on any level. The fact that the victim might be able to take a shower and move on isn't the point with me...it's the monstrous mentality of the mind that would perpetrate such an act.

Murder
On the assumption that the "1st degree" was intended to take out the "frankly, they probably deserved it" sympathy that might come up in some cases murder both really hits me and glances off. Hard to describe. I think we hear about it often enough that, as bad as it is, if there's nothing to connect us to it personally it's just, well, another terrible thing that happened. If I pause at all to think about it though William Munny keeps coming to mind;

"It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have."

A big hole in the calander that used to be a birthday. All the ungiven and unreceived Christmas presents. All the hugs and kisses and smiles and laughter that ever could have happened for friends/relatives/sons/daughters/mothers/fathers/husbands/wives, etc. is just...gone.

Yeah, give me a minute to actually think beyond the headlines and the "up next" segment and I really ******* hate murder.
 
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therealUT said:
What is your gut reaction when you hear/read a story about:

1. Cannibalism?

2. Rape?

3. 1st Degree Murder?

My gut reactions to the first two involve more outrage than my gut reaction to the latter.

Rationally, though, rape is the least absolute of these acts and there is, in my opinion, no harm done to a body sans soul, which means that rationally, at least for me, I should view both (1) and (3) with the same outrage; yet, as stated above, that is not my initial reaction.
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Outrage: 1st degree murder followed closely by rape. Cannibalism is a very distant third.
 
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The internet has desensitized me to the three above. Cannibalism peaks my interest (tastes like chicken?). Rape disturbs me the most. And murder is just an "smoother one?" reaction.
 
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VOLatile said:
The internet has desensitized me to the three above. Cannibalism peaks my interest (tastes like chicken?). Rape disturbs me the most. And murder is just an "smoother one?" reaction.
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Nope, apparently very similar to pork.
 
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Cannibalism, Rape, Murder, Rape...

- You said rape twice

I like rape

Edit: The preceding post is a riff of a silly movie. The views expressed in said post do not reflect the views of "vader" or of Volnation.
 
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Intent would be the driving force of all three as to how I'd have to rate them.

If a plane crashes, and you're in a situlation that would lead to cannibalism. I'd have very little out cry, but if you just like the taste of human flesh and hunt for your prey. That would be number one on my list.

Rape would be 2nd in most cases.

Murder would be 3rd in most cases, but could pass rape depending on the details and the intent.
 
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Murder is the worst of the three. Cannibalism after murder is bad, but the murder was the worst part.

Cannibalism, when not following a murder, is gross, but dead bodies aren't people to me, so besides the grossness of it, I would say, so what.

Rape is terrible, but when it is over, you are not dead. You now have a choice about how big of an impact it has on your life. Many, unfortunately, people have been violated and went on to live happy successful lives. So, while it is totally wrong, it does not create a permanent state of wrong, like murder does.
 
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VOLatile said:
The internet has desensitized me to the three above. Cannibalism peaks my interest (tastes like chicken?). Rape disturbs me the most. And murder is just an "smoother one?" reaction.
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If canniballism peaks your interest what's your opinion of Jeffry Dahmer?




PKT_VOL said:
Nope, apparently very similar to pork.
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How did you know that is a factt??



volinbham said:
I thought this was another - Why Are These Illegal - threads :ninja:
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I thought it was going to be about Idi Amin, a notable diciple of Muhammed the founder of islam.



bamacheats said:
What a freakin idiotic thread.
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Completely agree.

Jeez, I feel bad about even posting in this thread.
 
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gsvol said:
How did you know that is a factt??
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Various isolated indigenous cultures around the world partake in cannibalism. Some eat human flesh for religious purposes, others do it as the ultimate insult to captured rival tribal members during times of hostility as retribution. Each isolated culture proclaims that it tastes very similar to pork.

Furthermore, Judaism and Islam forbid the eating of pork do to it being deemed "unclean". Many historians have speculated that the reason lies in the fact that pork is the closest analogue to human flesh.

gsvol said:
Jeez, I feel bad about even posting in this thread.
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Simple solution, don't post in this thread. In fact, Freak is kind enough to give us an "ignore thread" option. It works wonders in the Football Forum during the season.
 
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My gut feeling on any of the three is the offenders should be disposed of by incineration.
 
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I'm still waiting for the payoff. Is there a punchline or some place the OP was trying to lead us to? :unsure:
 
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