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I know this isn't a usual request but I plan to buy a new cast net. I have a cheap Walmart 4'net and want a serious upgrade as a Christmas gift. I want a 6-8 ' net with at least 1lb lead/ft. I'm doing salt water now but mainly crappie dish at home(powell)
At 69yo with some back/shoulder and hip issues should I stick to 6' ?
3/8 or 1/4 "
A good net under $200.00

Any suggestions deeply appreciated.
 
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I know this isn't a usual request but I plan to buy a new cast net. I have a cheap Walmart 4'net and want a serious upgrade as a Christmas gift. I want a 6-8 ' net with at least 1lb lead/ft. I'm doing salt water now but mainly crappie dish at home(powell)
At 69yo with some back/shoulder and hip issues should I stick to 6' ?
3/8 or 1/4 "
A good net under $200.00

Any suggestions deeply appreciated.
What type of bait do you plan on using it for? Where do you plan on casting it from (boat, bank, elevated dock)?
 
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There are a lot of videos on YT on the topic,as I'm sure you know. I chose to fail at the cast net as I was fishing for striper in cold weather. I didn't like staying wet in cold weather. But, generally, the throw isn't much different between 6 and 8. An 8 will increase your success. Good luck!
 
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Shad for crappie boat
Shrimp and small mullet/pilchards docks
Thanks
It sounds like for what you plan on using it for you may not necessarily need a larger diameter net. I am by no means an expert at this topic, but I can tell you from my own experience there is a vast difference between a 6' and 8' net. If you do want to step up in size, I would go 6' max.

I would say that a 3/8" mesh, 1.25lb per ft, and 6-7' will meet your needs and not wear you out too much.
 
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If you are throwing around dam wing walls, try more weight on the net you have. I have tried bigger nets and did not like.
I fished with guides down in the islands that were masters with the big nets, I stink with any size.
 
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There are a lot of videos on YT on the topic,as I'm sure you know. I chose to fail at the cast net as I was fishing for striper in cold weather. I didn't like staying wet in cold weather. But, generally, the throw isn't much different between 6 and 8. An 8 will increase your success. Good luck!
I chose to fail when I thought I was spending more time chasing bait than fishing.
A shiner or tuffy can live in a sewer compared to shad. Shad require round tanks, filtration, and max aeration. Best bait there is under some circumstances. In the Joe Wheeler and Wilson tailraces
locals will not fish if they can't find yellowtails.
 
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I chose to fail when I thought I was spending more time chasing bait than fishing.
A shiner or tuffy can live in a sewer compared to shad. Shad require round tanks, filtration, and max aeration. Best bait there is under some circumstances. In the Joe Wheeler and Wilson tailraces
locals will not fish if they can't find yellowtails.
Shad are #1 for crappie bass cats and about anything else
 
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It sounds like for what you plan on using it for you may not necessarily need a larger diameter net. I am by no means an expert at this topic, but I can tell you from my own experience there is a vast difference between a 6' and 8' net. If you do want to step up in size, I would go 6' max.

I would say that a 3/8" mesh, 1.25lb per ft, and 6-7' will meet your needs and not wear you out too much.
This is what I'll go with 6' I was concerned about size of bait and need for 1/4" but crappie eat some pretty big shad.
Thank you
 
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This is what I'll go with 6' I was concerned about size of bait and need for 1/4" but crappie eat some pretty big shad.
Thank you
For smaller shad you may need the smaller mesh size, however if you do go that route your sink rate will be slower with the tighter mesh size. For summer areas the shad will be shallower, but during cooler months you may have to go heavier for deeper water.
 
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I chose to fail when I thought I was spending more time chasing bait than fishing.
A shiner or tuffy can live in a sewer compared to shad. Shad require round tanks, filtration, and max aeration. Best bait there is under some circumstances. In the Joe Wheeler and Wilson tailraces
locals will not fish if they can't find yellowtails.
I resorted to buying trout that were as big as some trout I'd caught in N. Ga streams.
 
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I chose to fail when I thought I was spending more time chasing bait than fishing.
A shiner or tuffy can live in a sewer compared to shad. Shad require round tanks, filtration, and max aeration. Best bait there is under some circumstances. In the Joe Wheeler and Wilson tailraces
locals will not fish if they can't find yellowtails.
Yellowtails are the best bait on the TN River in my opinion. They are are harder to keep alive as compared to gizzard shad. One thing that always kept mine alive longer was adding rock salt to the water.
 
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Yellowtails are the best bait on the TN River in my opinion. They are are harder to keep alive as compared to gizzard shad. One thing that always kept mine alive longer was adding rock salt to the water.
Speaking from experience....
Never throw a gizzard shad into someone's shad tank. They will cuss you like a dog. Them ole boys down in Alabama get plum nasty about someone desecrating the shad tank in their boat.
 
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Showing my ignorance. What's the difference?
I only use live bait for smallmouth. Fished every tailrace from Watts Bar to Pickwick. I hired guides on most when learning the technique. Although the tackle rigging is a little different every single guide had strong preference for threadfin (yellowtails to the folks from bama) and totally refuse gizzard shad. When trying to catch my own I tried the gizzard with not much luck. Of course, a gizzard in the right place at the right time will get eaten. I believe a threadfin will catch 10x more smallmouth. As jp1 stated yellowtails are the best live bait on the river. But hard to get and hard to keep alive. I am retired now, 40 years and thousands of smallmouths later, I have a 100 gallon tank on my back porch. If I fish the tailraces that are hard to get threadfin, I make the trip to Jack's Bait shop in Chattanooga and buy 5-inch shiners, there is also a great bait shop below Fort Louden that I forget the name of. The big shiners are easier to keep alive on the hook and in the tank. But not as good as yellowtails for catching. I never leave home without the baitwell in my boat full. I get terribly upset when I can't get bait. I consider gizzard shad as not having bait. Maybe it is just an old man's prejudice. I have yet to catch a smallmouth that did not refuse to talk to me about it.
 
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I only use live bait for smallmouth. Fished every tailrace from Watts Bar to Pickwick. I hired guides on most when learning the technique. Although the tackle rigging is a little different every single guide had strong preference for threadfin (yellowtails to the folks from bama) and totally refuse gizzard shad. When trying to catch my own I tried the gizzard with not much luck. Of course, a gizzard in the right place at the right time will get eaten. I believe a threadfin will catch 10x more smallmouth. As jp1 stated yellowtails are the best live bait on the river. But hard to get and hard to keep alive. I am retired now, 40 years and thousands of smallmouths later, I have a 100 gallon tank on my back porch. If I fish the tailraces that are hard to get threadfin, I make the trip to Jack's Bait shop in Chattanooga and buy 5-inch shiners, there is also a great bait shop below Fort Louden that I forget the name of. The big shiners are easier to keep alive on the hook and in the tank. But not as good as yellowtails for catching. I never leave home without the baitwell in my boat full. I get terribly upset when I can't get bait. I consider gizzard shad as not having bait. Maybe it is just an old man's prejudice. I have yet to catch a smallmouth that did not refuse to talk to me about it.
Thanks for the info.
 
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I only use live bait for smallmouth. Fished every tailrace from Watts Bar to Pickwick. I hired guides on most when learning the technique. Although the tackle rigging is a little different every single guide had strong preference for threadfin (yellowtails to the folks from bama) and totally refuse gizzard shad. When trying to catch my own I tried the gizzard with not much luck. Of course, a gizzard in the right place at the right time will get eaten. I believe a threadfin will catch 10x more smallmouth. As jp1 stated yellowtails are the best live bait on the river. But hard to get and hard to keep alive. I am retired now, 40 years and thousands of smallmouths later, I have a 100 gallon tank on my back porch. If I fish the tailraces that are hard to get threadfin, I make the trip to Jack's Bait shop in Chattanooga and buy 5-inch shiners, there is also a great bait shop below Fort Louden that I forget the name of. The big shiners are easier to keep alive on the hook and in the tank. But not as good as yellowtails for catching. I never leave home without the baitwell in my boat full. I get terribly upset when I can't get bait. I consider gizzard shad as not having bait. Maybe it is just an old man's prejudice. I have yet to catch a smallmouth that did not refuse to talk to me about it.
Gizzard shad work well enough on largemouth that I won't cull them if they are available. I've caught 30 largemouth over 5lbs in one day on gizzard shad on a TN River impoundment. Having said that, i agree overall threadfin are better. My guess is the size difference is why you do better for small mouth.

To answer the OP's question on differences....
I dont know all the differences between the two, but gizzards grow bigger, have longer life span (my guess on the size difference), hardier, and are a hell of a lot slimier than threadfin. They will make the water in your tank a mess in no time.
 

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