Childress and Harvin Had to be Separated

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Sources: Percy Harvin, Brad Childress of Minnesota Vikings had to be separated during confrontation - ESPN

MINNEAPOLIS -- A confrontation between Minnesota Vikings coach Brad Childress and receiver Percy Harvin grew so heated Friday afternoon that coaches and players were forced to separate them to prevent a physical exchange, according to team sources.

The confrontation, which was first reported by The (Minneapolis) Star Tribune as a heated argument between the two, occurred during a light Friday afternoon practice, Harvin's first of the week after suffering a sprained ankle last Sunday against the New England Patriots. Harvin was seen limping badly during the portion of practice open to reporters.

According to sources, Childress questioned Harvin's effort during the practice. When Harvin took exception, Childress suggested Harvin submit to further testing on the ankle. The debate escalated and "was as close to physical as you can get," according to the source.

After the two were separated, according to sources, a teammate told Harvin: "You just did what a lot of us have been wanting to say for years."

Harvin had further testing on the ankle Saturday morning. He remains questionable for Sunday's game against the Arizona Cardinals.

Expect Childress to be fired soon. First for releasing Moss for seemingly no reason, and now picking fights with one of his premier WR's.

And for those who haven't yet caught on. Moss wasn't the problem.

 

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Expect Childress to be fired soon. First for releasing Moss for seemingly no reason, and now picking fights with one of his premier WR's.

And for those who haven't yet caught on. Moss wasn't the problem.

I wouldn't necessarily say Childress "picked" a fight with harvin
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I wouldn't necessarily say Childress "picked" a fight with harvin
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Sounds like it to me. You're going to question the efforts of someone who's practicing and playing injured?

 

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Sources: Percy Harvin, Brad Childress of Minnesota Vikings had to be separated during confrontation - ESPN



Expect Childress to be fired soon. First for releasing Moss for seemingly no reason, and now picking fights with one of his premier WR's.

And for those who haven't yet caught on. Moss wasn't the problem.

Moss went around his back and told the owner to fire him. Even worse, Moss had only been there for a month.

If you were a manager, you'd really be cool with one of your employees going behind your back and telling the owner to fire you?

Plus, they've shown footage of Moss in the locker room screaming at everyone like he is the leader of the team after two games. Moss has the career numbers to be a leader but you don't just walk into a clubhouse full of guys you don't know and start telling them what to do after two weeks.

Hopefully he'll just go with the flow in Tennessee and let his play do the talking. If he does that, he can gradually become one of the leaders. I thought what he was doing in the Vikings locker room was odd before Childress ever cut him.

 

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Childress wanted him to go get further testing on the ankle and harvin refused. No coach wants a player on the field if they can't give full effort, regardless if they are injured or not. If you are injured you shouldn't be playing.
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And for those who haven't yet caught on. Moss wasn't the problem.

That's not even close to being accurate
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The clowns on NFL Countdown are fixing to fight over this subject.
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Moss went around his back and told the owner to fire him. Even worse, Moss had only been there for a month.

Seems like Moss wasn't the only one that wanted Childress gone.

If you were a manager, you'd really be cool with one of your employees going behind your back and telling the owner to fire you?

No, I wouldn't.

Plus, they've shown footage of Moss in the locker room screaming at everyone like he is the leader of the team after two games. Moss has the career numbers to be a leader but you don't just walk into a clubhouse full of guys you don't know and start telling them what to do after two weeks.

Moss is a veteran player and one of the best WR's to ever play the game. If he wants to step up and be the leader, why complain? His teammates obviously liked em, hence the reason they weren't and aren't complaining about Moss, but rather their head coach.

Hopefully he'll just go with the flow in Tennessee and let his play do the talking. If he does that, he can gradually become one of the leaders. I thought what he was doing in the Vikings locker room was odd before Childress ever cut him.

It'd be like someone complaining about Peyton Manning stepping into a new locker room and embracing the leadership role.

What then would you say?

 

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Childress wanted him to go get further testing on the ankle and harvin refused. No coach wants a player on the field if they can't give full effort, regardless if they are injured or not. If you are injured you shouldn't be playing.
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Which is why Brett Farve started and played last week? :good!:

 

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That's not even close to being accurate
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Moss wasn't the problem. The locker room, because of Childress, was bad last season according to Breet Farve. It was bad this season before Moss showed up, and it's gotten worse since Moss left.

Brad Childress is the problem, obviously.

 

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Seems like Moss wasn't the only one that wanted Childress gone.



No, I wouldn't.



Moss is a veteran player and one of the best WR's to ever play the game. If he wants to step up and be the leader, why complain? His teammates obviously liked em, hence the reason they weren't and aren't complaining about Moss, but rather their head coach.



It'd be like someone complaining about Peyton Manning stepping into a new locker room and embracing the leadership role.

What then would you say?

I never said everyone liked Childress. Nobody liked Tom Coughlin either though and Tiki Barber even retired over playing for him. Giants went on to win a Super Bowl. Against the very guy who doesn't have a ring no less(Randy Moss).

Randy Moss and Peyton Manning are not the same thing. QB's have to be leaders. Wide receivers, not so much. Moss just walked into the locker room, ran his mouth and made himself an acting leader. Terrell Owens did the same thing. All it does it split the locker room. If you don't buy into what the coach is doing, you shouldn't expect to win. That's why people like Owens and Moss don't have a championship. They've played on championship caliber teams too. Those same teams got rid of them.

 

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Moss wasn't the problem. The locker room, because of Childress, was bad last season according to Breet Farve. It was bad this season before Moss showed up, and it's gotten worse since Moss left.

Brad Childress is the problem, obviously.

Not saying Childress isn't the problem at Minnesota, but moss is definitely a problem in the locker room. The reason Randy was let go in Minnesota and new England was due to Randy, no one else.
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Which is why Brett Farve started and played last week? :good!:

Favre is a different situation IMO. The problem I have with this is that harvin took offense to something that Childress said. So when you say that Childress picked a fight with harvin, I see it in reverse.
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I never said everyone liked Childress. Nobody liked Tom Coughlin either though and Tiki Barber even retired over playing for him. Giants went on the win a Super Bowl. Against the very guy who doesn't have a ring no less(Randy Moss).

Difference being, Coughlin earned the respect of his players, and refrained from releasing Eli Manning and almost getting into fist fights with Justin Tuck.

Randy Moss and Peyton Manning are not the same thing. QB's have to be leaders. Wide receivers, not so much. Moss just walked into the locker room, ran his mouth and made himself an acting leader.

Jerry Rice wasn't a leader? Andre Johnson, etc?

Terrell Owens did the same thing. All it does it split the locker room.

Difference being, Terrell Owens teammates didn't want him around. Moss teammates, even former ones(Brady), want(ed) Moss around.

If you don't buy into what the coach is doing, you shouldn't expect to win. That's why people like Owens and Moss don't have a championship. They've played on championship caliber teams too. Those same teams got rid of them.

It's Randy's fault David Tyree had the miracle catch in the super bowl, and Tom Brady blew his knee in the opening game of the following season?

Also, the only reason New Englad got rid of Moss is because they didn't want to pay em. Bill Belichick came out and praised Randy, and rumor has it, if Tennessee wouldn't have claimed Moss on waivers, the Patriots would've resigned em.

 

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Not saying Childress isn't the problem at Minnesota, but moss is definitely a problem in the locker room. The reason Randy was let go in Minnesota and new England was due to Randy, no one else.
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The Patriots traded Randy because they didn't want to pay em, and according to ESPN, they were looking to resign him if the no one claimed em on Waivers. Furthermore, in both New England and Minnesota, he was well liked, so how "cancerous" could he possibly have been?

 

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So you are saying it us childress's fault that Randy verbally blasted a caterer and the team? I never said Randy was cancerous, but the reason he was cut from minnesota was due to Randy and no one else
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So you are saying it us childress's fault that Randy verbally blasted a caterer and the team? I never said Randy was cancerous, but the reason he was cut from minnesota was due to Randy and no one else
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When did Randy blast a team?

And what exactly does insulting a meal have to do with his NFL career?

 

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Difference being, Coughlin earned the respect of his players, and refrained from releasing Eli Manning and almost getting into fist fights with Justin Tuck.



Jerry Rice wasn't a leader? Andre Johnson, etc?



Difference being, Terrell Owens teammates didn't want him around. Moss teammates, even former ones(Brady), want(ed) Moss around.



It's Randy's fault David Tyree had the miracle catch in the super bowl, and Tom Brady blew his knee in the opening game of the following season?

Also, the only reason New Englad got rid of Moss is because they didn't want to pay em. Bill Belichick came out and praised Randy, and rumor has it, if Tennessee wouldn't have claimed Moss on waivers, the Patriots would've resigned em.

I think you're seriously over valuing wide receivers if you think they are anywhere near as important as quarterbacks.

Jerry Rice and Andre Johnson actually played with their teams more than two games before they started running their mouth and telling the players/coach what to do. FYI, Andre Johnson isn't the best example of a wide receiver being a leader. If anything, it discredits wide receivers being leaders because he can't even lead his team to the playoffs.

Actually, you're wrong about Owens. Half the Eagles and Cowboys wanted him around. Just like half the Vikings want Moss around. There were players saying Moss is an annoying loud mouth in so many words. Some of them responded by saying "that's just Randy".

The Patriots had all game to beat the Giants. If one play is what beat them, they don't deserve to win because that took 10 seconds. There was another 59:50 to beat them. Also, how can you blame the defense for allowing one play? They held the Giants to 17 points. Randy Moss and the Patriots record setting offense are the ones that only put 14 points on the board.

You can make any excuse you want. It's Childress's fault, the Patriots would have re-signed him etc. Fact is, the Vikings traded him in his prime. The Raiders traded him after he quit. The Vikings cut him after a month and the guy has never won a championship. His numbers put him categories with the likes Montana, Favre, Rice, Emmitt etc. Difference is, none of those guys were let go until the tank was running on E. Randy Moss is a 6-4 speed demon that has played on numerous teams. That's not a coincidence. There is something wrong with guy.

 

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So you are saying it us childress's fault that Randy verbally blasted a caterer and the team? I never said Randy was cancerous, but the reason he was cut from minnesota was due to Randy and no one else
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I'm done arguing this because it's going nowhere. I'm going to trust the instincts of NFL coaches. The guys who do it for a living and are getting paid the big bucks. Four different head coaches have gotten rid of him.

 

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I'm done arguing this because it's going nowhere. I'm going to trust the instincts of NFL coaches. The guys who do it for a living and are getting paid the big bucks. Four different head coaches have gotten rid of him.

You're ging to trust NFL coaches, yet ignore the fact that Bill Belichick loved and praised Moss?(we'll ignore New England wanting Moss back)

You and your ridiculous statements. :good!: