Chris Christie cuts spending

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"Christie and the Legislature must agree on a balanced budget by June 30. The governor’s $29.3 billion proposal refuses broad-based tax increases in favor of sweeping cuts, including those that sparked the most anger today: funding for school districts and meal programs, libraries and welfare."

NorthJersey.com: Record crowds flood Trenton to protest against N.J. Gov. Chris Christie, budget cuts

This is the kind of thinking that every conservative running for office or already in office needs to adopt. This guy maybe a candidate we need to look at for 2012.
 
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I made mention of that becauses the dems referenced his rotundness a few times in the election after their typical hatchet jobs failed.
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JTrainDavis said:
I made mention of that becauses the dems referenced his rotundness a few times in the election after their typical hatchet jobs failed.
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I thought that's what you were doing, they will attack anyone who is not a far left nut with all the venom they have
 
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volfanjustin said:
"Christie and the Legislature must agree on a balanced budget by June 30. The governor’s $29.3 billion proposal refuses broad-based tax increases in favor of sweeping cuts, including those that sparked the most anger today: funding for school districts and meal programs, libraries and welfare."

NorthJersey.com: Record crowds flood Trenton to protest against N.J. Gov. Chris Christie, budget cuts

This is the kind of thinking that every conservative running for office or already in office needs to adopt. This guy maybe a candidate we need to look at for 2012.
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Back to the original topic.... This is a good issue and one where there are serious problems on all sides. I'm fiscally conservative, but I worry about the impact cuts like this have on children and the future of our country. IF there is anything that doesn't need to be cut it's funding for schools, libraries, and food/welfare for children. We have to balance spending against the impact on our future population. So, the question is how do you cut without creating a system where poor children (who are poor through no fault of their own) do not get beat down into a further pit of poverty and hopelessness.

I'm not even really a bleeding heart. I think of this from a self interest point of view. What happens if we don't provide good education, meals, after school programs, and hope for the poor kids? They don't disappear...

I don't know that there is an easy answer here.
 
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TruthIsOutThere said:
Back to the original topic.... This is a good issue and one where there are serious problems on all sides. I'm fiscally conservative, but I worry about the impact cuts like this have on children and the future of our country. IF there is anything that doesn't need to be cut it's funding for schools, libraries, and food/welfare for children. We have to balance spending against the impact on our future population. So, the question is how do you cut without creating a system where poor children (who are poor through no fault of their own) do not get beat down into a further pit of poverty and hopelessness.

I'm not even really a bleeding heart. I think of this from a self interest point of view. What happens if we don't provide good education, meals, after school programs, and hope for the poor kids? They don't disappear...

I don't know that there is an easy answer here.
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I don't believe there is a shortage of funding to schools, I think we could cut spending and just spend more wisely. Like everything govt does, there is a bunch of waste and wreckless spending.

I want people to be as uncomfortable as possible when they are living off us tax payers, so they will try as hard as they can to rise above their current situation.
 
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TruthIsOutThere said:
Back to the original topic.... This is a good issue and one where there are serious problems on all sides. I'm fiscally conservative, but I worry about the impact cuts like this have on children and the future of our country. IF there is anything that doesn't need to be cut it's funding for schools, libraries, and food/welfare for children. We have to balance spending against the impact on our future population. So, the question is how do you cut without creating a system where poor children (who are poor through no fault of their own) do not get beat down into a further pit of poverty and hopelessness.

I'm not even really a bleeding heart. I think of this from a self interest point of view. What happens if we don't provide good education, meals, after school programs, and hope for the poor kids? They don't disappear...

I don't know that there is an easy answer here.
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As it has been shown time and again spending more on schooling children does not equal better education.
 
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TruthIsOutThere said:
Back to the original topic.... This is a good issue and one where there are serious problems on all sides. I'm fiscally conservative, but I worry about the impact cuts like this have on children and the future of our country. IF there is anything that doesn't need to be cut it's funding for schools, libraries, and food/welfare for children. We have to balance spending against the impact on our future population. So, the question is how do you cut without creating a system where poor children (who are poor through no fault of their own) do not get beat down into a further pit of poverty and hopelessness.

I'm not even really a bleeding heart. I think of this from a self interest point of view. What happens if we don't provide good education, meals, after school programs, and hope for the poor kids? They don't disappear...

I don't know that there is an easy answer here.
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In Alabama, and I suspect in all other states as well, there are plenty of charities, churches, and private groups that provide assistance to poor families. I know there are many people who donates old clothes furniture and toys to Salvation Armies, participates in food drives, and actually try to help people that are truly down on their luck. When you have states like New York paying $36K a year to provide food and shelter to a family of 4, there is a lot of room for cuts.

As far as education goes, cutting down on bureaucratic overhead and teacher pensions isn't going to affect the education a child receives in the classroom. I understand that sometimes teachers get fired when funding goes down, but when a school system chooses to fire a teacher over a pencil pusher in the central office that blame goes to the school system and not on a governor trying to make the school system live within its means.
 
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I'm not really only thinking about the cuts by Christie.

I remember one post on VN about a lady that had about 13 kids from 13 dads and was on welfare and of course would never work a day in her life.

Now, I have NO SYMPATHY at all for the lady. But the kids are a significant problem that that will all be part of our country for the next 60+ years.

I guess the crux of my concern is cutting spending without ending up with an even larger percentage of the population down and out.

I certainly applaude charitable efforts and I know we wouldn't be where we are as a country today without the charitable spirit we have. However, I just don't think it's enough.
 
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KB5252 said:
As it has been shown time and again spending more on schooling children does not equal better education.
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my fiance teaches at a top private school in southern california. their costs per student are the same (lower than some districts) as the public schools.
 
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droski said:
my fiance teaches at a top private school in southern california. their costs per student are the same (lower than some districts) as the public schools.
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same here in New England, Catholic schools spend much less than public and have superior achievement just about across the board.

No way in hell i'd send my kids to a public school after about the 4th grade.
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